Why are there no Boston subway or street car models?

rex desilets posted:

jojofry posted:

bigkid posted:

The people at the train manufacturers are all Yankees fans........

Well there's only one baseball team. 27 time world champs. !

With enough money one can buy anything....

As the 2018 World Champion Boston Red Sox demonstrated with a payroll that was $40MM higher than any other team's.

Steven J. Serenska

Bluelinememories posted:

Serenska posted:

The population of Boston is 655K.

The population of Chicago is 2.7MM.

The population of New York is 8.5MM.

 

Holding metro area populations constant and assuming the ratio of train collectors to non-train collectors is also constant, this is an issue of demand, pure and simple.

Please don't shoot the messenger.

Steven J. Serenska

Good point but historically speaking, we have the oldest subway in the states so those statistics are meaningless to railroad model enthusiasts.

I must have missed this post when it was first made.  

The statistics may be "meaningless to railroad model enthusiasts", but those figures mean a great deal to manufacturers.  You increase your chances of success by casting your hook where the most fish are swimming.

Also, I can assure you that the majority of train guys living in metropolitan New York couldn't care less about the age of Boston's subway system.  I'll go out on a limb and guess that it's the same for devotees of the Chicago Elevated.  It would be interesting to hear from some of them on the subject.

Steven J. Serenska

Serenska posted:

rex desilets posted:

jojofry posted:

bigkid posted:

The people at the train manufacturers are all Yankees fans........

Well there's only one baseball team. 27 time world champs. !

With enough money one can buy anything....

As the 2018 World Champion Boston Red Sox demonstrated with a payroll that was $40MM higher than any other team's.

Steven J. Serenska

Just for the sake of clarity, the Red Sox in 2018 were the team with the highest payroll for the first time in 42 years - since the free-agent era started in 1976 and, even with having the largest payroll last year, it was still the lowest for the top big league payroll since 2012. 

Any guesses on which team had the highest payroll over those 42 years ?

  As an out of stater, I'm kinda neutral..... When I think of trolleys, it's San Fran, then Ohio's Red Devils because of the race with an airplane. Interuban subways and els? Chicago & NYC come to mind, thats really about it though many others existed.

  Mention of each area would bring these imediately to mind as part of the history and landscape...but with Boston mentioned, I just think of boats and U.S. History... eventually the B&M does creep in, but that's it.  The fact it was also home to the first subway here doesn't sink deep because it isn't publicly boasted often enough, is my first explanatory thought. 

   We used to have a nice trolley system in Detroit before GM "helped us" with "electric buses". Honestly, that's what I see in the later equipment; electric buses; even on the ones with flanges. To me, they aren't really "trolleys", but the larger equipment that replaced the trolley.  

  In fact, in Detroit, it started with horse drawn omnibuses, and there were a few local lines, plus even the Red Devils for a few years to get to Toledo, Clevland, & Cincinnati. We had one of the first heritage lines in the 70s but it didn't do too well (on paper anyhow, the thing was full everytime I wawnted to use it. I usually ended up paying more and parking close to downtown because it was so busy.. again I'd bet the Auto industry somehow managed to ensure it wouldn't succeed or expand here long term)

( My great grandmother was killed by one of the locals when she lodged a foot between rail and pavement and the driver pushed through the crowd attempting to stop the driver...who just ignored them and sped up. On the bitter sweet side, Grandpa got to say goodbye just before his mom died in front of him...1918 or 1919 I think.)

   My point is you likely didn't know about Detroit's systems because it was never publicly flaunted much because the "real news" here was only about the cars... the rest of the city's draws is forgotten or ignored since then; the same deal really.

Dan Padova posted:

I can ask the same question about PTC ( Philadelphia Transportation Company ) equipment.  I haven't seen anything in streetcars or subways with the PTC logo.  

PTC had a nice color scheme.

SEPTA was selling an out-sized model of the new MKT-FKD cars in their store. I say out-sized as they appeared to be about 1/76 scale but ran on HO track.

Corgi makes a non-powered 027 gauge model of a Philadelphia PCC in that color scheme with the logo. In fact many Corgi models use the Philadelphia body with other city paint schemes, so you are getting the correct model.

In a while, Crocodile

Jackie