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Starting in the mid 1930's Lionel and the Curtis candy had some agreement and Lionel used their name on boxcars. Kids could relate to candy bars. That ran through the 1950's with 1004 and 6014 series boxcars. MPC did a Baby Ruth refrigerator car in 1973.  When Nestles bought out Curtis I don't think Lionel has run another Baby Ruth car. Atlas has done a Baby Ruth car. The only Snickers car I remember seeing was Train Miniature did a Refrigerator car in HO sometime in the early 1970's.

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Thanks for the info guys.

And, thanks to Stu!  The blue Snickers refer car looks great!  It is on my list!  (And I almost never buy a box car or refer.)

So now that that is resolved, what about the most underrated candy bar in history?   The "Chunky"!  Excellent dark chocolate with just a couple of nuts and raisins.   This use to be a standard in every candy display, and now is rarely seen in the stop and go shops, or even in the racks at big box stores.    Yep, there still made but you have to search for them.

Is there a Chunky car?

Mannyrock

It would be pretty cool to have a string of refers for all of the major candy bars with the same detail and quality as that MTH Snickers car.

POTERZBE,  I was born and raised in the City of Fairfax, and still have to drive up there every month for a Trust that I manage.   I pity anybody who has to live in the DC Metro complex,  and not even a Chunky factory could ever make me move there now.  :-)

Hope you don't have one of those hour and 15 minute commutes to travel 18 miles to get to work in the morning, like my brother!  :-O

Mannyrock

@Mannyrock posted:

Why the extreme popularity of the Baby Ruth box cars??   The 1940s are over!   I believe Snickers is now the number 1 candy bar in America, and has been for a long time.   Where are the Snicker's box cars?  :-0

Mannyrock

I much prefer the Baby Ruth over the Snickers (but do appreciate a frozen Snickers bar).  Unfortunately, I can't have either anymore for medical reasons.  No nuts, not seeds, no corn - *sigh*

Tsk tsk. Here on the central Gulf Coast, the chocolate of chocolates was made by a company called Elmer's, based in New Orleans (I grew up in not-far Mobile, so, common on store shelves). They called their little bars "Gold Bricks". A medium-light milk chocolate. There was an ice cream topping, too - you had to melt it then pour it over your ice cream, where it hardened. Mmmmm.

Hershey, Snickers, Baby Ruth, Chunky (those were rare around here) - nah. Never match Elmer's. (Our own local George's chocolate did, but that was strictly local.)

Really I'm off-topic. Sorry. Man, do I want some chocolate right now.

Speaking of those classic 6014 box cars (like the Baby Ruth and Van Camp Beans), there was also a Chun King (the so-called "Chinese food" from back in the day ) version that is very rare and super difficult to locate.

I'm not a collector, per se, but have been looking for one of those for years to complete a set I put together. It's pulled by the old Lionel 520 Box Cab Electric and included 3-4 pieces of rolling stock, one of which is the Chun King car.

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@Mannyrock posted:

Why the extreme popularity of the Baby Ruth box cars??   The 1940s are over!   I believe Snickers is now the number 1 candy bar in America, and has been for a long time.   Where are the Snicker's box cars?  :-0

Mannyrock

Probably two-fold:

Lionel made thousands and thousands of them over more than 5 decades.

Nostalgia for the candy, that is still loved by many

@Craftech posted:

It's tradition and nostalgia.  Plus they are really colorful.

Take the popularity of the Sunoco tank cars, for example.    AFAIK the real ones only existed in the 1940's.  Today Sunoco and Shell are both owned by Energy Transfer Partners who primarily specialize in pipelines.

John

No. Sunoco is owned by Energy Transfer Partners, but Shell, which drawfs Sunoco, is not. Shell is owned by Royal Dutch Shell, a huge multi-national company based in The Netherlands. They specialize in a lot more that just pipelines!

@breezinup posted:

No. Sunoco is owned by Energy Transfer Partners, but Shell, which drawfs Sunoco, is not. Shell is owned by Royal Dutch Shell, a huge multi-national company based in The Netherlands. They specialize in a lot more that just pipelines!

My bad, You are right.   Aloha Petroleum, a subsidiary of Sunoco acquired two Kauai Hawaiian Shell gas stations in 2015 not the entire company.

https://www.bizjournals.com/pa...ll-gas-stations.html

John

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Bill

I remember the $100 Grand being a fantastic candy bar, but I don't think I've seen one for years.

It had a very colorful wrapper, so it would look great on a box car.

All in all, perhaps MTH, Lionel and others are missing the boat in not bringing out refers with the 10 or 12 classic old candy bars on them.   I doubt it would be hard to get the licenses to do it.  They seem to bring out lines of cars on every other conceivable theme.  They would have to be high end, well detailed cars, though, because little plug cars such  as the ones with Baby Ruth stenciled on the sides just wouldn't do it.

Mannyrock

The 100 Grand Bar (formally the $100,000 Bar) is still around, I get them from our local Dollar General. I also remember Chunky in a gold foil wrapper made with either almonds or walnuts or pecans instead of peanuts. Haven't seen those since I was a kid.

To get back on topic (more or less), the pre & postwar operating Merchandise Cars came with crates of Baby Ruth in brown, black, and red.

Starting in the mid 1930's Lionel and the Curtis candy had some agreement and Lionel used their name on boxcars. Kids could relate to candy bars. That ran through the 1950's with 1004 and 6014 series boxcars. MPC did a Baby Ruth refrigerator car in 1973.  When Nestles bought out Curtis I don't think Lionel has run another Baby Ruth car. Atlas has done a Baby Ruth car. The only Snickers car I remember seeing was Train Miniature did a Refrigerator car in HO sometime in the early 1970's.

K-Line also did O27-sized Baby Ruth boxcars in the 1990s, nos. K 515401 and K 515402.

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