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Bachmann could easily offer this loco in 2 rail. Two rail wheels, 4 holes drilled/tapped in truck block and wheel wipers and they would have it. Simple 2 R wiring for customer installed DCC or they could do that too.

 

 

I 2 railed this one and it was easy for a novice so it would be a snap for Bachmann.

 

I will be adding DCC, brass handrails and Kadee couplers next week.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Brother_Love:

Bachmann could easily offer this loco in 2 rail. Two rail wheels, 4 holes drilled/tapped in truck block and wheel wipers and they would have it. Simple 2 R wiring for customer installed DCC or they could do that too.

 

 

I 2 railed this one and it was easy for a novice so it would be a snap for Bachmann.

 

I will be adding DCC, brass handrails and Kadee couplers next week.

 

 

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Brother Love, any chance you would be interested in doing one of these for me in Lackawanna # 51-52-53

I just painted it green day before yesterday but I did not care for it. It is undec'ed again now and I will repaint next week.
 
Originally Posted by DaveJfr0:

Can't tell what you don't like from the photos, but have fun re-striping it.  Stripes are the worst!  Paint looks very close to the original SOU scheme that these units had.

 

I'll be careful about the hand rail mounts when I file mine down.  Worst case is I make some new ones.  I'll dig a bit more to see if I need to place down some Archer tread or diamond plate or leave it barren.  I hope for the latter. I am lucky enough they did one in Southern.  It is nicely done despite the hood width.

 

Dave,

Prototype photos I have show no surface treatment on the walkways. (See my later post with photo.)

Look closely at the Santa Fe photo, the handrail bases should be parallel to the hoods.

...and no seam around the cab roof.

...no seam near the hood ends.

...no oversize headlight.

Hood ends are not as steep, are a bit more rounded with little to no walkway area at the base.

(Note the extra doors on the hoods and skirt, spark arrestors or mufflers on the stacks...unique to the SF?)

 

Too bad Williams/Bachmann failed to make the effort to review published drawings and photos but instead copied the RY model...would have made more sense to copy the Smoky Mountain Model Works 44 ton S scale model...the most accurate to date. 

 

It would be refreshing to see MTH put forth the effort...and provide a 2-rail conversion. 

 

 

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Dave,
Here is what I am going to do the Williams unit with a hood that is too wide.
--Sand seams
--Re-work H/L
--File deck flat
--Open cab windows, both sides
--Open one cab door
--Interior detail
--Canvas sunshade
--New hood access doors on hood top
--Cut out old grilles and model radiator grilles open.
--Brass handrails
--MU plugs
--Marker lights
--Air brake hoses
--Kadee couplers
--DCC/Sound
 
 
BTW, the hood will still be too wide. If it were not for having to rebuild the cab I would narrow the hood.
 
Malcolm
 
 
Originally Posted by DaveJfr0:
Originally Posted by Old Goat:

Dave,

Prototype photos I have show no surface treatment on the walkways.

Look closely at the Santa Fe photo, the handrail bases should be parallel to the hoods.

...and no seam around the cab roof.

...no seam near the hood ends.

...no oversize headlight.

Hood ends are not as steep, are a bit more rounded with little to no walkway area at the base.

(Note the extra doors on the hoods and skirt, spark arrestors or mufflers on the stacks...unique to the SF?)

 

Too bad Williams/Bachmann failed to make the effort to review published drawings and photos but instead copied the RY model...would have made more sense to copy the Smoky Mountain Model Works 44 ton S scale model...the most accurate to date. 

 

It would be refreshing to see MTH put forth the effort...and provide a 2-rail conversion. 

 

 

Thanks for the comparison.  I wish MTH had done a 2R unit…I would have just waited for it, but alas they did what they did. I'll just 2R the Williams despite all of the flaws you have pointed out.  If the hood-width is so very wrong, I can live with the rest of the problems. I guess both companies thought RY satisfied the 2R market for these and that it wasn't worth the cost.  Oh well.

 

If MTH's unit comes out and its easy to 2R in the end, maybe I'll pick up another one.

 

Kurt,

I made a styrene pad. I will post a pic tomorrow. I have found a problem with open cab door too. Handrails will have to be redone.

I wish I had kept my W&R 44t.

 

 

 coupler pad around original coupler stud

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handrail mounting holes will have to be re-drilled closer to the edge because of.....

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this. Hand rail mounts are molded over doors! I will have to remove them and re-mount them a little further toward edge of cab. The 2 railing part was the easiest part!!!

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Originally Posted by Brother_Love:
Dave,
Here is what I am going to do the Williams unit with a hood that is too wide.
 
--New hood access doors on hood top

Malcolm,
According to photos, the hood openings on the RY/Williams models are correct.  Earlier phases (II & III), which are nearly identical, have short hinged covers.  Covers modeled in the open position would look sweet.

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It looks like it has some sort of spring loaded support on hinged end in  the photos I found. I installed like I did for durability. If that hood end was just up in the air I could see myself ripping it off somehow while handling. This way I may can avoid disaster.
 
Originally Posted by Old Goat:

I believe the short and long covers had the identical hinge configuration.  There does not appear to be a support piece at the open end on either type.  There might be support or guide rods along the sides on the long covers, approximately one quarter of the distance from the hinge ends...but it's difficult to confirm.  Don't see any support pieces on the short covers.

 

 

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Malcolm,

I located my Extra 2200 South issues and corrected my earlier posts.

 

According to Part I, your loco, Fernwood, Columbia & Gulf RR, D-3, is a Phase III (short covers), sold 2/60 to Arcata & Mad River RR, #104, Korbel, CA.

 

It's difficult to see in the FC&G photos but it appears they ran the marker light wires between the radiator slats.  Checking photos of A&MR #104 I don't see evidence of electrical receptacles for the markers and the long grabs across the top and middle of the radiators are visible.

 

Your version looks great and thanks for posting your handiwork.

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Great.  Maybe you can post some pics after painting.
 
Johan
I like that. I have another one here and I may paint myself one of those. That would be a great road to model and would allow interchange with the BAR too.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by BAR GP7 #63:

Malcolm. How about this one? Aroostook Valley #12.

AVR #12

 

 

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