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@C_Murley posted:

link not working on your website for new engines.......



edit; link now working, but what are the new engines?  seems to be the same selection for years........

From the website ....

"Although Williams hasn't made a whole lot new recently, the line is growing in popularity!

Williams is high-quality O Gauge, that is completely compatible with MTH, Lionel, and all

other major O Gauge brands. With the increasing price points of O Gauge, many

customers have given Williams a chance, and have been pleasantly surprised....

Give it a try and join the fun!"

Mario

Maybe for a real comeback you can get some special runs, Possibly Early Amtrak F-3 with The Red Nose and Southern Pacific F-3s with the Red Nose and BOLD SP on the nose. Now that would be a come back!    And don't forget to re-run the Yellow Bonnet Santa Fe F-3's .  Also a nice Penn Central and Conrail RS-3 with Tru Blast Plus would be VERY WELCOME!  Even some Bandit Penn Central / Conrail units would be good to add to that too.   They would sell like hotcakes!

Thanks    Rory

Mario

Maybe for a real comeback you can get some special runs, Possibly Early Amtrak F-3 with The Red Nose and Southern Pacific F-3s with the Red Nose and BOLD SP on the nose. Now that would be a come back!    And don't forget to re-run the Yellow Bonnet Santa Fe F-3's .  Also a nice Penn Central and Conrail RS-3 with Tru Blast Plus would be VERY WELCOME!  Even some Bandit Penn Central / Conrail units would be good to add to that too.   They would sell like hotcakes!

Thanks    Rory

RS3 ideas are great!!!   

My guess is that Mario was doing what merchants selling all sorts of products do...try to drum up interest with creative advertising. I suspect it may have been prompted by the recent fairly long thread on Williams trains.

Having said that, it's more than fair to say that the title wording is a little bit...curious. What/where exactly is the so-called comeback?

But we're here talking about it so mission accomplished?

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With all the negative feedback on the forum about the Williams line not being produced by Bachmann, the thread title has some logic to it.  Williams has always been known for its consistency as opposed to its innovation.  There is a place for this in the marketplace so I see no issue with it.

To the question of custom runs, my experience is that Bachmann is not open to them.  That is their choice to make. 

@GG1 4877 posted:

With all the negative feedback on the forum about the Williams line not being produced by Bachmann, the thread title has some logic to it.  Williams has always been known for its consistency as opposed to its innovation.  There is a place for this in the marketplace so I see no issue with it.

To the question of custom runs, my experience is that Bachmann is not open to them.  That is their choice to make.

Jonathan:

I agree that Williams by Bachmann is not open to custom runs and that is too bad as they have a solid and predictable product that many would purchase more of if it was offered in other road names.  How many of us have ever opened a Williams box and had a disappointment?  Maybe I have been lucky, but I do not see it that way!  I just love how good Williams is straight out of the box at an affordable cost, good packing, good quality control!   Not only my experience, but also that of many of my friends who also have purchased Williams by Bachmann trains.  And I  also agree that as a free enterprise,  WBB can totally can choose what they build and when they build it.

I mean who would not want WBB to make a few of those engines that we all dream about like i have listed above as well as some other members.  I mean who could resist an Amtrak blood nose or Gray and Red SP F-3 set.  (I know some of you would not be even be ok with the thought of these, but some of us do like to dream and like you, they represent what was on the rails when we were kids. I mean folks, I never saw a PRR or B&O engine or passenger train "which i still love by the way", but I did see many Amtrak, Penn Central and Conrail ones! ). So help us out a bit now LOL.

With that said, I just added two weeks ago a Williams scale FA and FB set in Erie.  What a beautiful set.  I also in the past acquired the Erie F-3 ABA and a Texas Special F-3 ABA as well as a Semi Scale S-2 PRR Turbine and its matching green 4 car set of Luxury Liners.  Because I like their product so much, I also have 3 scale GG-1s  Amtrak, Penn Central and PRR Brunswick Green 5 stripe plus a Virginian Black and Yellow Fairbanks Morse H-24-66 Train Master.  But because I really like their reliability, I could not help myself but to get a Williams brass scale Niagara, A Williams Brass Scale N&W J No. 611 and a Brass Lackawanna camel back.   Amazing execution with every single piece.  There are other pieces I still dream about, but a bit of self control is good at times.

I also have on my roster, many Atlas O, K-line and Lionel in TMCC and conventional and MTH and Weaver in conventional.  During the mid 2000s I used to have a large roster of MTH P-2 locomotives with DCS, but unfortunately I purchased during the early DCS P-2 years and they all one by one succumbed to the  blown capacitor shotgun blast death!   It was a solemn time on my home road as locomotive after locomotive met its final days on the roster as the capacitor failures spread fleet wise. Don't get me wrong, I loved the DCS system and the locomotives but it was a situation that for me their retirement was the only smart thing to do.  Instead of going on a massive fleet wide repair and modification program, due to the high cost projected, the railroad management decided to retire and fire-sale the entire DCS P-2 fleet and the DCS system from the railroad and in the MTH line, just keep the conventional ones, some P-1 and some with reverse boards and horn.  By 2010 the final P-2 locomotive was stricken from the roster with the exception of two dead Amtrak GE P42s.  One was recently sent to Ohio to a sister railroad where it was gutted and made into a dummy.  The last one remains, hopefully will be made operable again with either TMCC or a conventional board.   I am currently looking at getting two MTH P-3 locomotives as we speak as they seem to be resilient and very reliable in my friends railroads in comparison to early P-2 versions.

I truly have a good solid representation from almost every manufacturer in my O gauge railroad empire and glad to have Williams as part of it and looking forward to a few more. I do not have one negative thing to say about Williams and Williams by Bachmann!  Simply put, I enjoy their product and it has always brought me total satisfaction 100%.



PS,  I have also an extensive fleet of Golden Gate Depot Amtrak and Great Northern passenger cars! I love GGD products too,  so to GGD, keep up the awesome work!

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