As far as I am concerned, if it hasn’t been made with Lionel Legacy, it hasn’t been made before. Therefore, add it to the Lionel Catalog wish list. Add MTH items to the MTH wish list thread.
If Lionel were to pick up the DMI&R Yellowstone tooling from MTH I couldn't pass it up.
I would like to see an sd40-2 in a Lake State Railway scheme. The colors of these engines would look great on a model.
@Vandey posted:I would like to see an sd40-2 in a Lake State Railway scheme. The colors of these engines would look great on a model.
Where is it based out of?
Also, I would like to see GP38s in New England Central Railroad. MTH did these but since they already cost as much as a Legacy locomotive I’m going to wait and hope Lionel makes them as a Legacy.
And yes, I did consider the MTH versionsbit adding in the cost to convert them t o Legacy or TMCC makes cost prohibitive.
The Lake State Railway is in Michigan. It used to be the Detroit & Mackinaw.
The Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range ACF CENTER FLOW 3560 cu ft. 3-bay covered hoppers were sold to the D&M.
The DMIR and DM patched version of the ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers must be produced in the LionScale line of freight cars.
Andrew
The former Weaver GP38-2 diesel-electric locomotive models need to be produced in the USA in order to get a LEGACY O scale GP38-2 loco.
Andrew
@falconservice posted:The Lake State Railway is in Michigan. It used to be the Detroit & Mackinaw.
The Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range ACF CENTER FLOW 3560 cu ft. 3-bay covered hoppers were sold to the D&M.
The DMIR and DM patched version of the ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers must be produced in the LionScale line of freight cars.
Andrew
It is a very sharp paint scheme!
O scale ILLINOIS TERMINAL yellow 52' gondola
Andrew
LionScale O scale Santa Fe SuperFleet scheme RoadRailer trailers on bogie trucks in sets of 4 or sets of 6.
LionScale O scale Canadian National RoadRailer scheme RoadRailer trailers on bogie trucks in sets of 4 or sets of 6.
LionScale O scale Chesapeake & Ohio RoadRailer trailers on bogie trucks
Andrew
Dash 9 in the BNSF H1 scheme. Don't think Lionel has done this before.
@GenesisFan99 posted:The MTH version doesn’t come with whistle steam, that’s a big one for me and a good amount of customers I sell to.
The other reason I suggested it is because it would sell. Like all models, you have to justify making one by doing several different versions. Using a rough base for a Hudson and doing many versions from it makes more money than niche Hudsons alone. If an ATSF Hudson sold, people like me who would want a Lackawanna Hudson and a Wabash Hudson could attempt to convince Lionel to produce other Hudsons from a rough base.
Think brass hybrid ATSF Hudson, allowing for brass hybrid Wabash, Lackawanna, CB&Q, etc.
Agreed, I'd be in for a scale Lackawanna Hudson. I have no use for anything DCS so even if MTH made one, I'd pass on it. The club I'm part of only runs TMCC and Legacy command systems. At home, I love the Bluetooth for simplicity.
@GenesisFan99 posted:The MTH version doesn’t come with whistle steam, that’s a big one for me and a good amount of customers I sell to.
The other reason I suggested it is because it would sell. Like all models, you have to justify making one by doing several different versions. Using a rough base for a Hudson and doing many versions from it makes more money than niche Hudsons alone. If an ATSF Hudson sold, people like me who would want a Lackawanna Hudson and a Wabash Hudson could attempt to convince Lionel to produce other Hudsons from a rough base.
Think brass hybrid ATSF Hudson, allowing for brass hybrid Wabash, Lackawanna, CB&Q, etc.
Great post. I’ve long assumed a brass hybrid was the only way we would get a Legacy NKP #170 Hudson. After MTH’s latest announcement, I’m now assuming a brass hybrid may be the only way we get a Legacy Dreyfuss.
To your point, a catalog with these Hudson variations would get expensive very quickly for a lot of folks.
EDIT: With MTH’s latestest-latetest announcement that indicated more of its tooling has been purchased by a buyer who will be named “later this summer,” maybe a Legacy Dreyfuss still has a pulse outside of the brass hybrid option.
I'd like to see a Legacy 2-8-0 styled after the Baldwin design (such as Southern 722). That design would be adaptable to many, many road names.
@Madockawando posted:MTH did these but since they already cost as much as a Legacy locomotive I’m going to wait and hope Lionel makes them as a Legacy.
I must have missed Lionel's price reduction
Thinking EMD E6’s in a variety of road names w/ super-bass B units will be a possibility. Seaboard ABA “orange blossom special” with matching 18” heavyweights. Also UP-CNW-SP City of San Francisco ABB with a matching 1941 consist would be a nice consideration.
I'm still wishing for someone to make the GE B36-7's and the NJ Transit Arrow III EMU Commuter Cars, but maybe I should lower my expectations a bit more.
I know some have said to give us LEGACY + Bluetooth reissues of the M1A, K4, Dreyfuss Hudson, and F40PH (which I'm all for), however, logically speaking, there's a few models Lionel should still have the tooling for that have never had a LEGACY release:
- The Hiawatha 4-4-2 Atlantic
- The Chesapeake & Ohio F-19 Pacific (the George Washington)
- The Union Pacific M10000
Legacy RS-3's in Lehigh Valley, Lehigh and Hudson River, PRR..Endless possibilities..
O scale
TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car with L&N auto rack
TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car with SCL auto rack
Andrew
O scale freight car
Western Pacific exterior-braced 50' double-door box car
WP 38267
https://www.railcarphotos.com/...s.php?PhotoID=122148
Built in January 1980
Andrew
@Mikado 4501 posted:I'm still wishing for someone to make the GE B36-7's and the NJ Transit Arrow III EMU Commuter Cars, but maybe I should lower my expectations a bit more.
I know some have said to give us LEGACY + Bluetooth reissues of the M1A, K4, Dreyfuss Hudson, and F40PH (which I'm all for), however, logically speaking, there's a few models Lionel should still have the tooling for that have never had a LEGACY release:
- The Hiawatha 4-4-2 Atlantic
- The Chesapeake & Ohio F-19 Pacific (the George Washington)
- The Union Pacific M10000
Agreed on the Hiawatha! It's time for a Legacy with whistle steam.
Jim
@Jim Sandman posted:Agreed on the Hiawatha! It's time for a Legacy with whistle steam.
Jim
I would be interested in the Hiawatha, but it should NOT have whistle steam. The A-classes were given air horns due to their high operating speeds. It would most likely be more like the Pennsy S1 from 2020v2, with a horn and a different smoke feature instead.
@Harry's Trains posted:I would be interested in the Hiawatha, but it should NOT have whistle steam. The A-classes were given air horns due to their high operating speeds. It would most likely be more like the Pennsy S1 from 2020v2, with a horn and a different smoke feature instead.
Good info. Thanks!
Jim
@Will Ebbert posted:Dash 9 in the BNSF H1 scheme. Don't think Lionel has done this before.
They have made one Will. It was cataloged in the 2013 volume 1 catalog. Part number for it is 6-39571.
The M10000 is a must. The Hiawatha and PRR M1 are also great ideas. The roadrailers need to be made. Lionel does have the tooling from Weaver (or Bowser; I don't remember which).
The Wabash National RoadRailers were made by Bowser, then by Weaver.
They never got around to producing the Canadian National and Santa Fe Warbonnet schemes on the RoadRailers.
Andrew
I would really like to see some new Amtrak Stuff from Lionel!
The Chargers and the ACS electric locos would be great!
I'd also love to see an Acela Avelia model, particularly one that can take 0-36 curves. It would be a great candidate for fantasy/heritage schemes and starter sets too, with its two-wheel truck design. Lionel could save a lot of money on not having to build a smoke unit for it as well. I think it would get a lot of young railfans to buy it and get into the hobby. Same goes for the current Acela Models. I want to run these on my 0-36 layout so bad!
I have catenary and everything, ready to go.
In the 50s, Lionel built models of trains that were around then, and young people and kids gobbled them up. Why not try that now?
@John m 43 posted:I would really like to see some new Amtrak Stuff from Lionel!
The Chargers and the ACS electric locos would be great!
I'd also love to see an Acela Avelia model, particularly one that can take 0-36 curves. It would be a great candidate for fantasy/heritage schemes and starter sets too, with its two-wheel truck design. Lionel could save a lot of money on not having to build a smoke unit for it as well. I think it would get a lot of young railfans to buy it and get into the hobby. Same goes for the current Acela Models. I want to run these on my 0-36 layout so bad!
I have catenary and everything, ready to go.
In the 50s, Lionel built models of trains that were around then, and young people and kids gobbled them up. Why not try that now?
Considering that the current Acela is 054 or 072, I don think they could get the old Acela (and probably not the new one) engineered down to 036. They could make the cars semi scale (like railking imperial) and make a lc+2.0 set. I also like the Acela, but not enough to justify the price or amount of space it would require.
an LC 2.0 SANTA FE flyer set
lionchief plus 2.0 level 0-8-0
iCarly train set- since iCarly is coming back this month on paramount plus i'd figure lionel to make a train set with authentic Miranda Cosgrove announcements or atleast an iCarly boxcar that plays the theme song "Leave it all to me".
@John m 43 posted:Yes, I would suggest that they would be semi-scale, or at least shorted/squished.
It could be a bit like the Lionel prewar "City of Denver" set or the Marklin "my world" ICE set.
And take a look at how short those cars on are the Avelia. It would led itself nicely to smaller radii, I would think.
I like the idea! Considering my basic layout plan would be 1 o54 loop with another o42 inner, I would be interested at the right price.
@John m 43 posted:I would really like to see some new Amtrak Stuff from Lionel!
The Chargers and the ACS electric locos would be great!
I'd also love to see an Acela Avelia model, particularly one that can take 0-36 curves. It would be a great candidate for fantasy/heritage schemes and starter sets too, with its two-wheel truck design. Lionel could save a lot of money on not having to build a smoke unit for it as well. I think it would get a lot of young railfans to buy it and get into the hobby. Same goes for the current Acela Models. I want to run these on my 0-36 layout so bad!
I have catenary and everything, ready to go.
In the 50s, Lionel built models of trains that were around then, and young people and kids gobbled them up. Why not try that now?
I like to think I'm still fairly young at 38.... but my daughter would disagree 🤣. Anyways, modern trains aren't all that interesting to me personally. I guess the only modern diesels that really interest me are the NS and UP heritage units (I'd love a scale legacy Lackawanna 1074) but I don't get excited by modern freight trains or amtrak. I also, have no love for any electric locomotives (old or new) or subways either. My interest by and large is scale steam and scale first generation diesels. I'm also not crazy about semi-scale (curse of coming from HO scale i guess).
O scale
TTGX TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car with a SOO 'The Soo Line Railroad company' auto rack painted between 1988 and 1992.
Andrew
@Jim Sandman posted:Agreed on the Hiawatha! It's time for a Legacy with whistle steam.
Jim
The Hiawatha would have to be made with safety valve steam or cylinder steam because that engine never had a steam whistle. Like the S1, it should have 3 horns and 2 whistles, but I'm with you on this one.
I know, it's been done twice- and of course has sold out due to popularity. I vote for another round of FEFs, this time with Bluetooth control and cylinder steam (or whistle steam). Will Lionel make it a Vision Line edition? Most likely to pump up sales. And another reissue of new UP auxiliary water tenders, please.
Geno
@72blackbird posted:I know, it's been done twice- and of course has sold out due to popularity. I vote for another round of FEFs, this time with Bluetooth control and cylinder steam (or whistle steam). Will Lionel make it a Vision Line edition? Most likely to pump up sales. And another reissue of new UP auxiliary water tenders, please.
Geno
I'd be in for an 844. Personally I would like the water tenders to be bare bones. They are way too expensive for what should just be a freight car IMO. No need for Legacy and all the other tech.
Here is a thought for a Vision Line locomotive that might work: GE C30-7. It’s by far the most common 2nd gen GE diesel and would have a slew of road names - both past and present - that could be modeled. I would also mention the SD40-2, but they have just run that recently as a standard scale loco.
Just a thought.
Correction: They just made a scale run of the SD40, not SD40-2. My bad.
Would love to see C&O/Virginian Kanawhas!
LionScale SOO LINE high-sided four-bay open-top hopper set
60331-60429 odd numbers
Andrew
Pedestrian Crossover
John
When is the release date for the 2021 Volume 2 catalog? The answer may have been posted earlier, but I can't find it. Thanks.
Pat
@irish rifle posted:When is the release date for the 2021 Volume 2 catalog? The answer may have been posted earlier, but I can't find it. Thanks.
Pat
Last I heard was July, I’m not sure if an exact date has been released yet.
@Csxcellent posted:Last I heard was July, I’m not sure if an exact date has been released yet.
I believe that it correct and when it comes out, we will be reminded yet again why catalogs, especially Lionel catalogs, still bring us excitement.
@Csxcellent posted:Last I heard was July, I’m not sure if an exact date has been released yet.
As per the Lionel gods on Mount Concord, the release date is set for 15 July.
In addition to a future catalog wish list, maybe a new wish list thread for "custom runs" should be initiated.
LionScale O scale PS-2-CD in the ILLINOIS CENTRAL scheme of a light gray body with black and white graphics.
IC series 56800-56899 built by Pullman-Standard, Lot 9410, May-69. To ICG 764600-764699.
Andrew
Falcon Service
@das boot posted:As per the Lionel gods on Mount Concord, the release date is set for 15 July.
In addition to a future catalog wish list, maybe a new wish list thread for "custom runs" should be initiated.
I’m not sure how that would work. The 200 page Lionel catalog comes out on July 15th. Would it make any sense to send an email in August or September for a “custom run”? Why not just include it in the catalog you just released?
The same for later in the fall. Maybe you have an early sneak peak announcement a month or two before the winter catalog but otherwise, why not just include the “custom runs” in the catalog you will be releasing in a month or two?
i’m not saying that there shouldn’t be an occasional mid catalog announcement but why do more than that when you are releasing two giant catalogs a year?
@Madockawando posted:I’m not sure how that would work. The 200 page Lionel catalog comes out on July 15th. Would it make any sense to send an email in August or September for a “custom run”? Why not just include it in the catalog you just released?
The same for later in the fall. Maybe you have an early sneak peak announcement a month or two before the winter catalog but otherwise, why not just include the “custom runs” in the catalog you will be releasing in a month or two?i’m not saying that there shouldn’t be an occasional mid catalog announcement but why do more than that when you are releasing two giant catalogs a year?
"How that would work?"
Just one example of a Lionel custom run blueprint would be METCA (Stu is thinking outside the box) and their great selection of initiated custom runs of engines from current and more recent catalogs. Also, Pat's and Muffins train shops among others are really stepping up to the plate with a wide variety of stream and diesel options from Lionel and MTH (one could also include Atlas).
Custom runs (BTO) seem to be the norm these days along with those great Lionel catalogs, our O gauge heads and eyes are spinning, keep on wishing, keep on dreaming.
Club cars like METCA are a special case and is different situation than special runs from dealers in lieu of traditional catalogs.
Relying on small unannounced runs 100% of the time is a marketing strategy for small train companies. An email, however interesting, should augment, not replace the twice a year catalog.
@Madockawando posted:Club cars like METCA are a special case and is different situation than special runs from dealers in lieu of traditional catalogs.
Relying on small unannounced runs 100% of the time is a marketing strategy for small train companies. An email, however interesting, should augment, not replace the twice a year catalog.
The Lionel Legacy and MTH Premier custom runs have historically augmented what has been offered by Lionel and MTH in their catalogs by offering diesel and steam engines that have different road names and/or road numbers than those offered in the catalogs. Custom runs were never intended to replace the catalogs. In MTH's case, the custom run game has now changed with the sale of most of their product lines and tooling to ATLAS and the end of the MTH catalogs and much of MTH's business. I still don't fully understand how that will all work for MTH in the future. For now, MTH is flooding the market with a variety of Premier and Rail King custom run diesel engines and freight cars which are being offered by a number of dealers.
Pat
@irish rifle posted:The Lionel Legacy and MTH Premier custom runs have historically augmented what has been offered by Lionel and MTH in their catalogs by offering diesel and steam engines that have different road names and/or road numbers than those offered in the catalogs. Custom runs were never intended to replace the catalogs. In MTH's case, the custom run game has now changed with the sale of most of their product lines and tooling to ATLAS and the end of the MTH catalogs and much of MTH's business. I still don't fully understand how that will all work for MTH in the future. For now, MTH is flooding the market with a variety of Premier and Rail King custom run diesel engines and freight cars which are being offered by a number of dealers.
Pat
And to take a step slightly further, custom runs suggested by both large and small organizations are influencing what we may see in a future catalog. There is a comingling of decisions, a bit like Macbeth's witches in Act One.
Keep wishing, it may come true.
VISION LINE freight car
The American Car & Foundry ACF CENTER FLOW 4600 Cu. Ft. Capy. 3-compartment/3-bay covered hopper
Sturdy and close to scale thickness stainless steel body that has 3 compartments built exactly like the real cars.
Opening roof hatches.
Operating gravity discharge gates.
Operating pneumatic discharge gates with pipes that have a screw-on cap on a chain.
Many railroad names when they were built from 1965 to 1990.
Many have been repainted and are still in service.
Andrew
I absolutely love—and really look forward to—the recent trend of custom-runs. They provide the opportunity for some of us to get the road names and/or unique paint schemes that might otherwise get overlooked (or don’t make the cut!) by the manufacturers/importers…and therefore not offered in the “regular” catalogs.
For example, I jumped on the opportunity to purchase 3 of the custom-run Lionel Legacy ALCO C-420’s that Mr. Muffin offered in 2019…two of the Lehigh Valley “Yellowjackets” and one of the D&H “Blue Dip” paint schemes. I had been waiting and hoping for both of those for a long time.
So….PLEASE dealers, clubs and importers…keep the custom-run, uncatalogued items coming!!
@CNJ #1601 posted:I absolutely love—and really look forward to—the recent trend of custom-runs. They provide the opportunity for some of us to get the road names and/or unique paint schemes that might otherwise get overlooked (or don’t make the cut!) by the manufacturers/importers…and therefore not offered in the “regular” catalogs.
So….PLEASE dealers, clubs and importers…keep the custom-run, uncatalogued items coming!!
Ditto. I like having a plethora of products to pick from like it used to be buuuuut I have grown to enjoy the custom run stuff because they're often overlooked items. I've bought more custom run rolling stock than regular stuff in the past year or two.
An item never produced before has been a CANADIAN NATIONAL GM-EMD SD75I diesel-electric locomotive in O scale that is equipped with a TMCC mode to operate with the Lionel CN C44-9W locos with TMCC.
Andrew
@CNJ #1601 posted:I absolutely love—and really look forward to—the recent trend of custom-runs. They provide the opportunity for some of us to get the road names and/or unique paint schemes that might otherwise get overlooked (or don’t make the cut!) by the manufacturers/importers…and therefore not offered in the “regular” catalogs.
For example, I jumped on the opportunity to purchase 3 of the custom-run Lionel Legacy ALCO C-420’s that Mr. Muffin offered in 2019…two of the Lehigh Valley “Yellowjackets” and one of the D&H “Blue Dip” paint schemes. I had been waiting and hoping for both of those for a long time.
So….PLEASE dealers, clubs and importers…keep the custom-run, uncatalogued items coming!!
Don't beg the dealers, push your fellow hobbyist to purchase them. While yes the dealers take credit for getting these runs made, if few purchase them the special runs will dry up. It's really on us the consumer.
These need to be done in another generation of LEGACY.
@Peter Araujo posted:These need to be done in another generation of LEGACY.
I like the idea of reissued Legacy locomotives with new numbers.
@Peter Araujo posted:These need to be done in another generation of LEGACY.
I had never seen one of these in Legacy, though in the pics, the fuel tanks look off. Maybe a bit small. Are the actual models accurate? And new road numbers are always a good option.
@Madockawando posted:I like the idea of reissued Legacy locomotives with new numbers.
They made Santa Fe in LEGACY once, but hasn't been re-issued since.
I own the Santa Fe B40-8W #562. It is a great engine with great sounds. I would love a BNSF H3 Swoosh version.
@Peter Araujo posted:They made Santa Fe in LEGACY once, but hasn't been re-issued since.
Well then! Let’s make it again!
i would like an amtrak pepsi can or amtrak california version of the b40-8w
The fuel tanks are too small, but I would still be interested in one. The Santa Fe ones are like hen's teeth and the other versions were all TMCC.
A statement from Lionel addressing how they are going to improve their paint and quality issues.
@CNJ #1601 posted:So….PLEASE dealers, clubs and importers…keep the custom-run, uncatalogued items coming!!@MartyE posted:Don't beg the dealers, push your fellow hobbyist to purchase them. While yes the dealers take credit for getting these runs made, if few purchase them the special runs will dry up. It's really on us the consumer.
Thanks, Marty. That wasn't intended to be "begging the dealers" (but I can see how you took it that way)...and I couldn't agree more with your statement that it's ultimately on us, the consumers.
I was simply trying to encourage all parties involved (manufacturers/dealers/clubs...and certainly customers) who have made these recent uncatalogued special runs a reality to continue to work together on future special runs.
I think they are great for our hobby...even if I may only be interested in one out of every 25 or 50 or 100 special announcements. Why? Because special announcements/custom runs most likely mean that some folks, somewhere, are getting what THEY want--and may have been hoping/wishing a long time for--rather than having to wait with their fingers crossed for the next catalog to be released...and then the next one...and then...
I would like Lionel to follow MTH's lead with 3 - 2 rail convertibility with replacement wheel/axle capability.
@Rapid Transit Holmes posted:I would like Lionel to follow MTH's lead with 3 - 2 rail convertibility with replacement wheel/axle capability.
Now THAT (and fixed pilots and full-length handrails while we’re at it ) would be great!
A limited-run BTO release of Lionel’s PA-1s in the New Haven’s Orange with pinstripes paint scheme.
B units for the E8/9.
How about a Centipede
i would like for 2022 more New Hope and Ivyland stuff and more Reading and Northern stuff like engines sets ect since those two railroads are the ones i've decided to loosely base my railroad on
I love running a long string of Lionel’s 86 ft box cars on our club’s layout I really wish Lionel would offer some 86 ft box cars with sound The existing sound cars just look so small riding in between the 86 ft cars The cars could even have two speakers
I would like to see more PS-1 box cars in both prototype and non-prototype road names. The same goes for PS-4 flatcars, PS-2 hoppers, PS-5 gondolas. I would like to see more Lionel Lines items in scale rolling stock and locomotives.
I have already said I want to see a new Siemens Charger (this would make a great Vision Line loco), but I have still been thinking about this, and here are some other thoughts.
Modern passenger cars would be nice. Reasonably priced Amfleet cars or Superliners. Viewliners would be awesome, though that would definitely require new tooling.
Another thought would be a Lionel made 5-car articulated deep well intermodal set. I think with as much intermodal traffic that flows through this country, this form of car is still greatly underrepresented.
Legacy P&LE A2 Berkshire from MTH tooling.
@NYC Fan posted:Legacy P&LE A2 Berkshire from MTH tooling.
I gotcha one better than that Skip,…let’s hope they get the Dreyfuss tools, …..with the PT tender having the water scoop effect,…..😳😳😳……imagine that pulling the limited ……ooooohhh,…and roller rod bearings,….😁😁😁
Pat
@NYC Fan posted:Legacy P&LE A2 Berkshire from MTH tooling.
That is definitely an interesting loco.
Did they ever paint any of this with actual P&LE markings, or were they all lettered for the NYC?
Not sure how many times I've said this, but since this topic is back: complete the AFT!
And since you started making Friendship Train cars, how about a few more (with usable trucks/couplers this time).
@Carl Peduzzi posted:That is definitely an interesting loco.
Did they ever paint any of this with actual P&LE markings, or were they all lettered for the NYC?
At the time of the A2’s, the P&LE was still an adopted child of the NYC, thus, they all wore “ New York Central Systems “ ….had the A2 come before the change of Railroad Roman to Railroad Gothic, they might have worn “ New York Central Lines”….however all P&LE locomotives at that time had their initials on the coal bunker,,,,
Pat
@harmonyards posted:At the time of the A2’s, the P&LE was still an adopted child of the NYC, thus, they all wore “ New York Central Systems “ ….had the A2 come before the change of Railroad Roman to Railroad Gothic, they might have worn “ New York Central Lines”
Pat
Well, being from the Pittsburgh area, it would be great to see these in P&LE paint. Lionel is good with fantasy schemes, and P&LE could sit right along side the NYC paint. Those might be one of the few steam I would seriously consider buying.
A chessie sd70ace to go with my preordered b&o sd70ace. Also, how about a lionmaster sized polar express set. Furthermore, a North Pole central caboose without the camera and some more ma & pa stuff would be nice.
@Csxcellent posted:A chessie sd70ace to go with my preordered b&o sd70ace. Also, how about a lionmaster sized polar express set. Furthermore, a North Pole central caboose without the camera and some more ma & pa stuff would be nice.
I would really like to see a Lionel Lines SD70ace and a Quebec and Central Maine Dash-9
@Carl Peduzzi posted:I have already said I want to see a new Siemens Charger (this would make a great Vision Line loco), but I have still been thinking about this, and here are some other thoughts.
Modern passenger cars would be nice. Reasonably priced Amfleet cars or Superliners. Viewliners would be awesome, though that would definitely require new tooling.Another thought would be a Lionel made 5-car articulated deep well intermodal set. I think with as much intermodal traffic that flows through this country, this form of car is still greatly underrepresented.
Concerning "modern passenger cars," Lionel should be announcing uncatalogued Amtrak diesels, passenger cars and sets at York. As far as pricing, one can always dream.
@Carl Peduzzi posted:Well, being from the Pittsburgh area, it would be great to see these in P&LE paint. Lionel is good with fantasy schemes, and P&LE could sit right along side the NYC paint. Those might be one of the few steam I would seriously consider buying.
You may just get your wish, ….one thing for certain, they've clearly gotten fantasy schemes correct,,…🤔
Pat
@harmonyards posted:I gotcha one better than that Skip,…let’s hope they get the Dreyfuss tools, …..with the PT tender having the water scoop effect,…..😳😳😳……imagine that pulling the limited ……ooooohhh,…and roller rod bearings,….😁😁😁
Pat
Funny, I was just talking about acquired MTH Toolings on another thread about Vision Line engines, what would be the next one to come out. On that one I said how the VL projects are years in the making, about 5 or so depending on what the project is. See if there is one VL engine in the next catalog or not.
Now, about Dreyfuss Hudson's, oh yeah, they had to have gotten a hold of that tooling, unless it was not for sale. I am really hoping that yes indeed it is part of the purchase of toolings, along with some other engines that have ever been produced once, or not at all. Sounds like I am talking about the other two of the big three engines, the PRR T1 and the N&W Class A, and yeah, that is exactly what I am talking about.
@NYC Fan posted:Legacy P&LE A2 Berkshire from MTH tooling.
With you here too Skip.
The die-cast metal three-bay, open-top hoppers need to be made out of lighter aluminum, so they can be placed anywhere in the train without having couplers in front of the hoppers being stretched and popped open from the weight.
The O scale die-cast aluminum three-bay open-top hoppers need to be produced in schemes for the
Chessie System
B&O, C&O, WM
the SOO LINE
THE ROCK
Andrew
The O scale 8-Door 86' high-cube boxcars need to be produced in the Grand Trunk Western paint schemes and road numbers as built in 1965 and 1967.
Photos of the GTW 8-door 86' high-cube boxcars are available on the Canadian Freight Car Gallery website.
Andrew
Lionel is due for a new Torpedo based on the new Baby K4 chassis with LionChief Plus 2.0. Also, I would like to see a new North Pole Express Streamliner with an FT diesel.
I would like to see a NYC Mercury Set and a new City Series…
City of LosAngeles,
City of Denver
City of New Orleans
All using the same passenger car models from their Super Chief set. Those passenger cars have been around since 2000. I have several roadname sets. They will work on any layout and look great.
@Carl Peduzzi posted:I have already said I want to see a new Siemens Charger (this would make a great Vision Line loco), but I have still been thinking about this, and here are some other thoughts.
Modern passenger cars would be nice. Reasonably priced Amfleet cars or Superliners. Viewliners would be awesome, though that would definitely require new tooling.Another thought would be a Lionel made 5-car articulated deep well intermodal set. I think with as much intermodal traffic that flows through this country, this form of car is still greatly underrepresented.
Golden Gate Depot is doing Superliners and a second run of Viewliners and Amfleets. Not everyone considers them reasonably priced, but a lot of the market share has been fulfilled by them.
Atlas has 3 car articulated well cars but they're 53'. A 40' set would be nice though.
@Will Ebbert posted:Golden Gate Depot is doing Superliners and a second run of Viewliners and Amfleets. Not everyone considers them reasonably priced, but a lot of the market share has been fulfilled by them.
Atlas has 3 car articulated well cars but they're 53'. A 40' set would be nice though.
Good suggestion for the Amtrak cars. I have seen the Golden Gate Depot site and I am sure the cars will look great. I am hoping that whomever has their hands on the MTH Superliner tooling would produce a new run. While maybe not as detailed as the GGD models, I feel that the prices ( even with Lionel’s markup) would be more reasonable for a broader range of consumers. And competition is always good.
Based on some comments made in the last Lionel YouTube presentation for the latest catalog, Siemens engines and Superliners could possibly be forthcoming. Maybe I am reading too much into the statements that Ryan made.
I agree, 40’ articulated deep well cars would be great. I would buy any Atlas cars if they offered them again. Maybe it is me and the more modern era I model, but intermodal cars just seem underrepresented compared to their use in the real world.
It is strange the people at LIONEL did not choose to have the Gunderson/Greenbrier MAXI-STACK five-unit car with 40' wells produced as an O scale model in the past 20 years.
Andrew
@falconservice posted:It is strange the people at LIONEL did not choose to have the Gunderson/Greenbrier MAXI-STACK five-unit car with 40' wells produced as an O scale model in the past 20 years.
Andrew
These five-car units are something I have been waiting for and wanting to see produced for a longtime! A bit jealous when I see a new N or HO scale version of them released.
Some already produced traditional cars and accessories lettered for the Boston and Albany and AEC, like a crane car or gantry crane. Maybe something that actually ran at Hanford, like a GP-7 or RS-1 in Hanford Works orange or DOE white, and a four pack of depressed center cask cars. Some of Lionel's already produced steam in Boston and Albany versions, like an F-12e or Mikado. For something new, a 2-6-6-2 in B&A and NYC versions. Maybe an O gauge HH600, like many of us hoped Atlas would come out with years ago. More New England region equipment in 1920's-WW2 Era paint and lettering. I think we've have our share of McGinnis colors and NYC Jade green.
I would love to see the LC+2.0 0-6-0T in more road names, especially New York Central. I have one from the first series of conventional docksiders and I'd love a command equipped one. (or two, or three)
@FJI posted:I love running a long string of Lionel’s 86 ft box cars on our club’s layout I really wish Lionel would offer some 86 ft box cars with sound The existing sound cars just look so small riding in between the 86 ft cars The cars could even have two speakers
Just take the guts out of the PS-1 and add them to one of the 86's...don't forget to switch out the truck with the sensor on it as well. As far as adding an additional speaker, that would require knowledge of the current speaker impedance, etc...
Anthony
New Haven 2-6-0 or 4-4-2
A Lionchief plus 2.0 671 Turbine PW style, not the bantam junk!
Bring back Super O track system.
VW 150 watt traditional transformer.
Thanks, Phil
The modern gondolas built by Thrall Car, Pullman-Standard, Greenville Steel Car, Ortner, and Trinity since 1970 have to be stamped out of thin sheets of steel or stainless steel and welded together to make models in O scale proportions.
Andrew