It will be live at 10am est Friday
Aluminum ACF Centerflow hoppers...I haven't seen these in awhile.
how about a plug and play Wolfe Manor with detachable hospital wing
since 2022 marks 100 years since the mansion was built in Clovis California
@catnap posted:Aluminum ACF Centerflow hoppers...I haven't seen these in awhile.
The production of their freight cars was apparently moved around several times in the past 20 years.
The ACF CENTER FLOW 4650 3-bay covered hoppers and 5250 4-bay covered hoppers made out of aluminum were produced to compete with the K-LINE models. Once the K-Line production stopped, then these covered hoppers vanished. There might be a connection.
Could the tools or molds for them be lost?
There were some more railroad schemes that needed to be applied to the ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 4-bay covered hopper such as SCL FAMILY LINES and WC WISCONSIN CENTRAL.
Andrew
Wolfe Manor? Cody, you must be thinking of it being a Halloween accessory. Before that decrepit old nursing home was torn down a decade ago, it was advertised as a ghost mansion.
@paigetrain posted:i had a dream last night lionel released the dd40ax in a military scheme and a santa fe yellow bonnet as well as several UP versions
Ok a Centennial with the same treatment that Lionel did to the turbines would look amazing, I could never afford that but I could see that selling well
LionScale versions of the ESCANABA & LAKE SUPERIOR modern 50' box cars with the correct doors.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunter1828/2929286120
Andrew
Falcon Service
O Scale McCloud River Railroad exterior-braced 50' double-door box car with roller bearing trucks.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/...5247/in/photostream/
Andrew
Falcon Service
After a fairly robust 2020, I bought exactly zero from last year's catalog. No pre-orders, no follow up purchases. Ready to wade into the 2022 catalog and find some things that will catch my eye.
Lionel has teased new Amtrak items for months now (beyond what they cataloged last year), including anniversary liveries, new passenger cars and maybe even a set or two.
Looking forward to Friday's release.
- MTH Tooled VISION N&W Auxiliary Tender
- MTH Tooled DD40AX
- MTH Tooled AutoTrain autoracks
- MTH Tooled Chessie Steam Special Mohawk style Auxiliary Tender
- Frisco 1522
- Southern 1401
- Southern Auxiliary Tender (from NKP Berkshire tender)
- RPCX Tool Car 701 (from Weaver PRR Baggage)
- UP 21" Art Lockman & Howard Fogg
- CSS 150th Birthday of American Railroading Car
- VistaVision Dome Car (Corrugated sides)
- Polar Express F40PH
- Amtrak Fantasy Phase V F40PH
- Amtrak Veterans F40PH NPCU
I would like to see those nice wooden, clerestory, cars that Lionel and MTH did, like the Strasburg cars or Penn. BUT LET'S See them in Milwaukee Road (CMStP&P) orange and maroon or C&NW or SOO Line etc.
how about another updated TITANIC set sinc we're coming up on the 110th anniversary of the sinking
2 and a half days to go
Anyone see, or hear anything? Has it started to show up in any stores yet? The last couple years, we would have started hearing/seeing things by now.
Bill
I think Lionel is trying to keep leaks a lot tighter this time around. Everyone that has seen something isn’t going to say anything specific about it.
@NSBill posted:Anyone see, or hear anything? Has it started to show up in any stores yet? The last couple years, we would have started hearing/seeing things by now.
Bill
From a very brief conversation with my local hobby shop owner, he has reviewed a pricing sheet packet reflecting expected higher prices. Since I have a DOD Veranda coming, I did not pursue any additional comments.
@NSBill posted:Anyone see, or hear anything? Has it started to show up in any stores yet? The last couple years, we would have started hearing/seeing things by now.
Bill
I was at the train shop today. Be prepared for sticker shock is all I was told
@Will Ebbert posted:All sorts of railroads used to have rotaries so you could do a number of "close enough" paint schemes plus some generic MoW ones in black, silver, red, or yellow. I would absolutely love a UP one. The MTH rotary is just cheap looking and not even remotely to scale.
Totally agree. A Vision version of a rotary would destroy MTH’s version in every category.
Lionel pretty much has the tech to make a Vision rotary work already.
Prices went up a little bit before the catalog and in the catalog itself. The new CW-80s used to cost dealers $95 ish, now they cost $110.
What I can say about the catalog is many people’s wallets will be in for a world of hurt, and not just because of the prices...
I assumed prices would jump. Everything else has gone up.
I'm pumped to see what they offer regardless! I feel like a lot of people get excited for the catalog because they'll have something new to complain about but even if everything is too expensive for me, I'll be excited to see what's new, and what's being made again.
@GenesisFan99 posted:Prices went up a little bit before the catalog and in the catalog itself. The new CW-80s used to cost dealers $95 ish, now they cost $110.
What I can say about the catalog is many people’s wallets will be in for a world of hurt, and not just because of the prices...
It sounds like you are saying that the catalog is full of very expensive and very desirable trains. A wallet killer for sure.
One thing that I don't think I considered was a yard goat or some steam switcher for the NYC. I do have one of the TMCC offerings that I do have to figure out how to fix the sensor line up as the drawbar was slightly bent. I just haven't gotten around to fixing that yet.
@GenesisFan99 posted:Prices went up a little bit before the catalog and in the catalog itself. The new CW-80s used to cost dealers $95 ish, now they cost $110.
What I can say about the catalog is many people’s wallets will be in for a world of hurt, and not just because of the prices...
oh dear this is not good for me who always wants something
already heard that some of my favorite railroads are gonna be featured
just don't know how to ask my godparents to help me pre order if i do especially if the prices are higher
I'd love to see a Spokane, Portland, and Seattle kitchen car. They did a bunk car several years ago but never the kitchen car.
@GenesisFan99 posted:Prices went up a little bit before the catalog and in the catalog itself. The new CW-80s used to cost dealers $95 ish, now they cost $110.
What I can say about the catalog is many people’s wallets will be in for a world of hurt, and not just because of the prices...
Not surprised on the price increases. If my grocery store is any indicator, it was only a matter of time.
Did the catalog come early in the mail for you?
Also, I love how a catalog release is like a mini-holiday in the hobby 
@0-Gauge CJ posted:Also, I love how a catalog release is like a mini-holiday in the hobby
It's a good time! I especially love seeing people's ideas for what could be made.
It’s surprising that there’s only two days to go and seemingly no leaks anywhere yet!
Unless Lionel has tooled up an ATSF steam locomotive that hasn't been done in 3 rail before I'm safe. I don't need anymore locomotives unless it's something that hasn't been done before.
But I'm in for some ATSF rolling stock.
More SW8 and NW2s and all early diesels in Pennsy, B&O, Reading, and Pennsylvania & Reading seashore line.
Pull out a 10 year old catalog, then look at the prices... One reason my collection is very small.
@0-Gauge CJ posted:Not surprised on the price increases. If my grocery store is any indicator, it was only a matter of time.
Did the catalog come early in the mail for you?
Also, I love how a catalog release is like a mini-holiday in the hobby
I love how it’s a mini-holiday too! I can’t say how I saw a bit of what’s in the catalog, only that you’ll enjoy it.
@Jeff T posted:Pull out a 10 year old catalog, then look at the prices... One reason my collection is very small.
I get it completely, but to respectfully push back a little, Lionel does not control inflation of the dollar. $500 in 2012 is equal to just over $600 today. Going back to 2005, $500 then is equal to over $700 dollars today!
In other words, if an engine was $500 ten years ago and a rerun of the model today still sells for $500, there have almost certainly been cost cuts...hmm, maybe explains a lot.
I will enjoy looking through the catalog but I m sure there won’t be any postwar remakes or Western Maryland.
@Terrance posted:I will enjoy looking through the catalog but I m sure there won’t be any postwar remakes or Western Maryland.
That is very likely true. I don't think the 120th Anniversary F3 Postwar set was a big seller.
@Jeff T posted:Pull out a 10 year old catalog, then look at the prices... One reason my collection is very small.
Back in the 1980's, people were complaining about $250 for Hudsons using postwar tooling...
Rusty
@Madockawando posted:That is very likely true. I don't think the 120th Anniversary F3 Postwar set was a big seller.
Yes, unfortunately, agree. For years I used to lobby for traditional stuff/PW remakes on these "wish" threads but I think that ship has sailed.
The last two were the green UP Alco Set and the Santa Fe Anniversary Set. I bought the Alco Set but passed on the latter. I literally had it in my shopping cart but the price was just too steep. I took what I would have spent and got a beautiful Santa Fe PW 2343 AA pair. And some rolling stock. With $$ left over!
@Rusty Traque posted:Back in the 1980's, people were complaining about $250 for Hudsons using postwar tooling...
Rusty
Mean $250 in 1980 is worth about $850 today which...is about where some of the engines are. Interesting.
@BillYo414 posted:Mean $250 in 1980 is worth about $850 today which...is about where some of the engines are. Interesting.
Well if you adjust the price of Lionel's original 700e J1e..... it works out to a little over 1,500 bucks today......so yeah lionel has consistently been expensive. That said, yes the prices are still a lot for the wallet to handle.
@Brian DeFazio posted:Well if you adjust the price of Lionel's original 700e J1e..... it works out to a little over 1,500 bucks today......so yeah lionel has consistently been expensive. That said, yes the prices are still a lot for the wallet to handle.
There's a difference. Most technology get's cheaper over time. TVs, computers, etc.
@rplst8 posted:There's a difference. Most technology get's cheaper over time. TVs, computers, etc.
But there have been a lot of upgrades over the years. The 700e didn't have Bluetooth, whistle steam, Legacy Railsounds, etc.
