Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷♂️
@N&WGuy posted:Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷♂️
no septa, maybe next time.
It’s interesting to see the Long Island Railroad and MTA mentioned! I’m hoping that means that Lionel got the GP38-2 Premier tooling from MTH. Some LIRR GP38’s with Legacy would be awesome!!
Milwaukee Road and Hiawatha, Burlington, Clinchfield. 
No UP or am I blind?
@N&WGuy posted:Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷♂️
Gah, no Youngstown and Southeastern haha or Mahoning Coal Railroad!
My money is still a VL Triplex
@Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:My money is still a VL Triplex
That would be wild. I hope you're wrong because that is not in this years budget 
@vash44 posted:No UP or am I blind?
I missed it too.
Could be some new F40's in this catalog!
Okay. I'll play. No Norfolk Southern, Penn Central, Union Pacific, or SP? 
Doesn't matter much to me as it is highly unlikely there will be any items that interest me, but I don't mind surprises!
@GG1 4877 posted:Okay. I'll play. No Norfolk Southern, Penn Central, Union Pacific, or SP?
Doesn't matter much to me as it is highly unlikely there will be any items that interest me, but I don't mind surprises!
They don't have those licenses on the other catalogs either. But anyway, I still hope for a Milwaukee Road auxiliary tender & RPCX tool car in there too.
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atlantic coastline , chessie
goodbye wallet
@Peter Araujo posted:They don't have those licenses on the other catalogs either. But anyway, I still hope for a Milwaukee Road auxiliary tender & RPCX tool car in there too.
It helps that the two roads I predominantly model I model in 2 rail. 
@Peter Araujo posted:Could be some new F40's in this catalog!
You may or may not have gotten one of your earlier wishes
I gotta say, I’m impressed there haven’t been any leaks all the way up to the catalog release apart from what Lionel meant to leak out. They’ve managed to keep info locked up tight this time! I can’t even remember the last time there were no leaks preceding an upcoming catalog...
MrMuffin’s Trains has all the Vision Line Class A’s available for preorder on their website with pictures!! Also saw some F9 diesels 😲
The MSRP for the Class A is honestly less than I expected
There are some stunning CP SD90MAC Veteran tribute locomotives. I want them all.
@Madockawando posted:There are some stunning CP SD90MAC Veteran tribute locomotives. I want them all.
They’re wonderful paint schemes but why put they on an SD90MAC and not on an SD70 like CP did.
@vash44 posted:
A few of them. And some F40s to pull the ski train.
This will pretty much give you all of it if you scroll:
@vash44 posted:They’re wonderful paint schemes but why put they on an SD90MAC and not on an SD70 like CP did.
I don’t know but they are Canadian and they look great. So I’m happy but sad because I don’t think I can get them all. There are some CN veteran tribute locomotives as well. I guess after the fiasco with the disaster that was MTH’s veteran engine Lionel said: “Hold my beer and watch this.”
Just got this email this morning from Lionel...
Wishes for this catalog are no longer being accepted. All further wishes should be forwarded to the next "Wish List for the Next Lionel Catalog" thread. Please keep in mind that wishes may take several catalog cycles before being granted due to the fact that the next catalog is probably already done so technically all wishes from here forward will at the earliest be granted in the 2023 Volume 1 catalog. Also Lionel has a policy of not accepting suggestions but wishes are always welcome. Please remember not all wishes come true either. If you wish to speak to someone about a wish that was not granted please email the genie in the wish department. We are located across the hall from Lenny the Lion.
Wishfully yours the Lionel Genie.
@SuperChief posted:A few of them. And some F40s to pull the ski train.
Based on some of Ryan's past comments about 2022 Volume 1 and paraphrasing Yoda, "...Amtrak is strong with this one."
Santa Fe 2-10-4s? ****. I must have at least 1. Even though I just bought a 3rd Rail version on the Bay. Hope it at least has whistle steam and some other cool features for that price.
Other than that, looks like my wallet is in the clear. I usually get every VL but the Class A isn’t speaking to me. But I’ll probably change my mind if the “mystery feature” is really good.
Having reviewed the above "Muffin" listings for a previous hour, I am much impressed with the variety of Military and Veteran inspired diesel themes at a variety of multiple price points.
May I offer a twenty gun salute to Lionel for their Veteran support.
Do the manufacturers come out with similar things at around the same time to block each other, or because they think the complimentary items actually increase their sales, or a little bit of both? MTH/Atlas does a 44 tonner and now Lionel has one. Scott Mann is coming out with Amtrak locomotives and beautiful scale passenger cars from GGD and Lionel goes hard on Amtrak from roughly the same period in this catalog. Lionel and MTH each came out with a Santa Fe “gold bonnet” Alco PA and cars set at around the same time.
Mind you, the choice is great for us…and It often works beautifully…I can’t wait to see my VL Daylight GS3 pull Scott’s Daylight passenger cars. But I don’t get the thinking behind having the exact same thing like the 44 tonner or gold bonnet PA set within months of another manufacturer.
@das boot posted:Having reviewed the above "Muffin" listings for a previous hour, I am much impressed with the variety of Military and Veteran inspired diesel themes at a variety of multiple price points.
May I offer a twenty gun salute to Lionel for their Veteran support.
Here Here!! I concur whole heartedly. Lionel is all in with the veteran tribute trains. The best way we veterans can say thank you: buy them all!!😁
No whitewalls on the A’s. Dealbreaker for me.
@Alec_6460 posted:Santa Fe 2-10-4s? ****. I must have at least 1. Even though I just bought a 3rd Rail version on the Bay. Hope it at least has whistle steam and some other cool features for that price.
Other than that, looks like my wallet is in the clear. I usually get every VL but the Class A isn’t speaking to me. But I’ll probably change my mind if the “mystery feature” is really good.
I'm in the same boat. I just had had the same 3rd Rail version upgraded with cruise. It will be hard to pass up from Lionel.
Ouch, this is going to hurt the wallet, but they are so good looking:
Lionel L-2233580 - F9 AB Sets Aberdeen Carolina & Western – MrMuffin'sTrains (mrmuffinstrains.com)
By the way, I had to coordinate with the folks at ACWR for a work project, and they were really great when they had absolutely no reason to help. Class act all the way around.
Looks like someone possibly jumped the gun on posting the catalog items.
those SD90MACS are beautiful
i need one
I see the MTH tooled 0-6-0 engines and Bobber cabooses. I was hoping the 0-4-0 engines were also from the MTH tooling, but they look like Lionel's versions. Same with the 4-4-2 Atlantics.
@MartyE posted:Looks like someone possibly jumped the gun on posting the catalog items.
Eh. I mean it doesn't have the details added. Perhaps there's something wrong with me but I like reading the details even though it's a lot of the same details. I'm still looking forward to the online catalog being posted and that's what I'll be looking at closely.
If the listings on Mrmuffins are pretty much everything, I’m…..underwhelmed. There is nothing for traditional or semi scale folks……no new lionchief plus 2.0 steam, no new lionmaster steam. I guess if you don’t have a scale layout, Lionel doesn’t much care for your business. I honestly thought they would try to fill the Railking void……but it looks like they don’t plan to.
@MartyE posted:Just got this email this morning from Lionel...
Wishes for this catalog are no longer being accepted. All further wishes should be forwarded to the next "Wish List for the Next Lionel Catalog" thread. Please keep in mind that wishes may take several catalog cycles before being granted due to the fact that the next catalog is probably already done so technically all wishes from here forward will at the earliest be granted in the 2023 Volume 1 catalog. Also Lionel has a policy of not accepting suggestions but wishes are always welcome. Please remember not all wishes come true either. If you wish to speak to someone about a wish that was not granted please email the genie in the wish department. We are located across the hall from Lenny the Lion.
Wishfully yours the Lionel Genie.
At least they have a great sense of humor! Hard not to like those guys but doesn't keep some from trying.
@Randy_B posted:At least they have a great sense of humor! Hard not to like those guys but doesn't keep some from trying.
Randy
Just for full disclosure, I wrote that just joking around. I do know though they do have a sense of humor. You almost have to when dealing with us.
@NCogaugefan posted:If the listings on Mrmuffins are pretty much everything, I’m…..underwhelmed. There is nothing for traditional or semi scale folks……no new lionchief plus 2.0 steam, no new lionmaster steam. I guess if you don’t have a scale layout, Lionel doesn’t much care for your business. I honestly thought they would try to fill the Railking void……but it looks like they don’t plan to.
Why don't you wait until the catalog actually drops. I suspect there is more there.
