Woodsided Reefers

Matt,

I absolutely love billboard reefers like the ones you have shown us here. They look great running behind a 736 Berkshire or a junior Hudson.

Thanks,

George

I like the Carnation.  Before these things started rolling out in lifetime plastic, I got some decals made and converted three "real wood" sided cars to Carnation.

Here's one that I built

I've generally sold off most of my billboard reefers, but I do have a few favorites I kept:

Warning: S Scale content...

And for reasons even I don't know, this one's my favorite ever since I saw one in the Walther O scale catalog back in the 60's:

Rusty

Matt, I remember Pacific Fruit Express cars being pulled by a black, except the nose was silver Daylight engine on the Southern Pacific in the early 50's. There would be fifty or sixty solid cars of them. There was an ice station in Salinas California. Don

The few I have.

Plus two different "Miller High Life and a "Borden Fine Cheese" no pics.  Also for decades have been asking MTH (Andy) for two American Icons  A&P Company and Schlitz, but  NO joy.

Ron

Definitely beautiful cars.  I always mean to research what the deal was with the law change that stopped such paint jobs.  Do any of you know of any good reference material discussing the law, when enacted, what it covers, etc.?  I tend to avoid these because it sets a max date on the train, whereas I tend to use rolling stock that spanned a long time frame. 

pennsy484 posted:

Definitely beautiful cars.  I always mean to research what the deal was with the law change that stopped such paint jobs.  Do any of you know of any good reference material discussing the law, when enacted, what it covers, etc.?  I tend to avoid these because it sets a max date on the train, whereas I tend to use rolling stock that spanned a long time frame. 

The ICC outlawed them as of January 1, 1937.  But this date was extended to January, 1938.

You will find this in detail and much more in Richard H. Hendrickson and Edward S. Kaminski's book ?Billboard Refrigerator Cars."

Ron

Limited edition by Weaver

Weaver SFRD

Atlas Grand Union weathered

Lionel with over stamp

Atlas limited

Lionel

Lionel first run REA milk car

Weaver repainted to a Santa Fe reefer leased to REA

Weaver limited edition.

John in Lansing, ILL

PRRronbh posted:

pennsy484 posted:

Definitely beautiful cars.  I always mean to research what the deal was with the law change that stopped such paint jobs.  Do any of you know of any good reference material discussing the law, when enacted, what it covers, etc.?  I tend to avoid these because it sets a max date on the train, whereas I tend to use rolling stock that spanned a long time frame. 

The ICC outlawed them as of January 1, 1937.  But this date was extended to January, 1938.

You will find this in detail and much more in Richard H. Hendrickson and Edward S. Kaminski's book ?Billboard Refrigerator Cars."

Ron

I imagine some or many here have seen this interesting discussion if not having been part thereof, found by googling it: 

http://rypn.org/forums/viewtop...t=36392&start=15

Still pretty nebulous. 

The book.

Ron

A string of woodside billboard reefers being pulled by a SP&S Z-6 Challenger.

    Bill T.

Now the milk cars are not actually "billboard cars" under the ICC ruling.

And this milk car probably just skirted the defining issue to be under the ruling.

Three designations of cars: 1/ Shipper owned(leased) ; 2/ Assigned cars; and 3/ Free runners.  I think the ICC rules about 'billboard' cars pertain to assigned cars and free runners.  John in Lansing, ILL

rattler21 posted:

Three designations of cars: 1/ Shipper owned(leased) ; 2/ Assigned cars; and 3/ Free runners.  I think the ICC rules about 'billboard' cars pertain to assigned cars and free runners.  John in Lansing, ILL

As of January, 1938 NO billboard cars were legal on any rails no mater how/whom owned them unless parked.  The ICC ruling had to deal with the markings.

Back when I was a kid in the sixties, I remember seeing Miller Beer reefers on the Southern in Alabama. It may not have been a full blown billboard reefer, but it had the Miller High Life logo and maybe some slogans on it. It was obvious that Miller Beer owned it and it advertised that product

Somebody has said that the pool of billboard reefers has barely been splashed ..wish new and different ones were better advertised.

tncentrr posted:

Back when I was a kid in the sixties, I remember seeing Miller Beer reefers on the Southern in Alabama. It may not have been a full blown billboard reefer, but it had the Miller High Life logo and maybe some slogans on it. It was obvious that Miller Beer owned it and it advertised that product

Did it for sure say beer of just Miller High Life???  The "book"  thus cover the period.

I love these cars.  I have a bunch of Atlas 40' cars, and there is few things more fun than a long string of beer cars.  I will post a pic later.

I saw one pic of cars in boxes - that feels like a real shame.  Enjoy the cars.

Mr. Muffin has a great great collection of the cars as well.

John