Would You Buy a Model of This?

Perhaps it's their first ...

  The photo of the first electric locomotive to enter service got me intrigued. Who invented the electric locomotive?

German inventers had made battery-powered locos in the nineteenth century, but they were rejected due to very short range. And while he did not invent the electric loco, Thomas Edison ran an experimental electric locomotive about 1/3 of a mile in 1880. (Picture 1)

Encouraged by the railroads and the government, he built a bigger line and ran a larger experimental engine on it a few years later. (Picture 2)

Here are my favorite photos from the beloved "Ma and Pa Railroad":

  The first electrics are credited to Siemens and first fully electrified line was in Italy, running Ganz steeplecaps.

Yep...

Rusty

So we're in the real trains topic and posting pictures of models to ask if we'd purchase a model of it.   Something seems incongruous.

Nein!

16 - 18 inch shell with a passenger and crew.  It would make a neat model.

Ja voll, a whole roster worth of those I think I actually have a "similar" 'pull string to wind-up' villan vehicle from The Tick superhero collection. Incrogruous...?😲 You hawked me BYDIE🤓 I had to look that up to be sure about it 😵 I like that 😎 I would also have to look up which section it is posted in to ever notice. It doesn't even tell the section on an Android. The photos are mostly of real trains? 🐒 ..Your kinda right though. In spirit it is a modling thread.... but the Real RR guys usually chime in with lots of interesting protype info that otherwise might be ommitted. Tough call, but I think the focus is really on prototypes.

I already said "A caboose should be red." Still, it is interesting enough that I would buy one.

Guys, I think that putting photos of models in a thread about buying a model of a real piece of railroad equipment is a little silly.

Stuart

 

 No it's not a mobile home--this beautiful railcar is part of Ugandan Railways.

Everybody always talks about eliminating the third rail.  How about we eliminate the two outside rails?

Rusty

This is off the path, but I would put it on my layout. I love places like this. Delgadillo's Snow Cap Diner.

I wouldn't touch that 1912 Jocondes with a ten-foot pole. Designed for light fast passenger trains, they did serve successfully for about 42 years.

Okay, but they have to include the action figures:

The first one is genuine. Along with the next two, it serves as a tribute to one of fiction's most legendary crime-fighting teams.

Okay, Experts! What is it?

No kidding?  The Ma&Pa ran Sykes cars, and right past the classic store/post office/station in Muddy Creek Forks?  I'd buy a three rail Sykes...New Haven, etc.,used them... and l have a three railed brass one.

Vincent Massi posted:

Okay, Experts! What is it?

Purely a guess but I think it's a ballast cleaner.

Good Heavens, Byrdie, I thought you were joking, but there really is such a railcar! Over time, the ballast gets rounded, dirt and impurities trapped between the ballast cement together, and other problems reduce the effectiveness of ballast (which allows the track to flex with changing loads).

However, that's not what it is.

But for the record, here is a ballast-cleaning railcar in Israel.

Byrdie posted:

Vincent Massi posted:

Okay, Experts! What is it?

Purely a guess but I think it's a ballast cleaner.

Nope...  It's a Schwellenpflug, a device used by the Germans in WWII to tear up the railroads as they retreated.

Here's another one in action:

Rusty

Rusty, you are correct. Used by both sides in WW2, and by Russia in WW1, its use is often considered a war crime, as it destroys civilian infrastructure.

NOBODY wants one of these on their lay-out!

>>its use is often considered a war crime, as it destroys civilian infrastructure.

Not if it was used to tear up government-owned railroads!

From a purely logical standpoint, it would probably be the LAST thing I'd buy!

 

Vincent Massi posted:

Rusty, you are correct. Used by both sides in WW2, and by Russia in WW1, its use is often considered a war crime, as it destroys civilian infrastructure.

NOBODY wants one of these on their lay-out!

War crime?

Source, please.

palallin posted:

Vincent Massi posted:

Rusty, you are correct. Used by both sides in WW2, and by Russia in WW1, its use is often considered a war crime, as it destroys civilian infrastructure.

NOBODY wants one of these on their lay-out!

War crime?

Source, please.

"Today, the targeted destruction of civil infrastructure is considered a war crime . "  https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/Railroad_plough/

I wouldn't want an actual operating version, but it is an interesting bit of machinery that would be fun to pull around..an operating "clicker" would be ok maybe If the military ever used it, &survival possibilities for civilians to be anything more than unfortunate I think. E.g. If the railroad was the only source of food/water for a civilian population and not used by the military. Sorry, I type in english, but crap spews forth from spellwreck.

UP has another commemorative locomotive. This one pays tribute to their employees. It's an SD70ACe #1111. If MTH does a model with scale wheels, I'm in. The paint seems to also imply a tribute to the steam program. I'll see if I can find more photos.

Vincent Massi posted:

palallin posted:

Vincent Massi posted:

Rusty, you are correct. Used by both sides in WW2, and by Russia in WW1, its use is often considered a war crime, as it destroys civilian infrastructure.

NOBODY wants one of these on their lay-out!

War crime?

Source, please.

"Today, the targeted destruction of civil infrastructure is considered a war crime . "  https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/Railroad_plough/

I am looking for an authoritative source, please.

I have kit bashed two crane cars for wind-up trains, and assembled a Lego dead rail crane car (works great, by the way), but am still looking for a regular HO crane car. This one would be nice.

Vincent Massi posted:

I already said "A caboose should be red." Still, it is interesting enough that I would buy one.

K-Line did one years ago. I have one. I'll have to check, but I think MTH also did one. I saw the prototype in El Monte about twenty-five years ago. The bunk area is actually  a jail cell. 

Definitely a nice addition to most lay-outs.

Vincent Massi posted:

Needs some touching up. I suddenly realized that this might be a passenger car instead of an electric trolley.

This is a DD-1 electric locomotive.

poniaj posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

Vincent Massi posted:

Needs some touching up. I suddenly realized that this might be a passenger car instead of an electric trolley.

It's not a passenger car.

It's a Pennsylvania Railroad DD1 electric locomotive...

Rusty

I'd not only buy one, I'm thinking of making this my next scratch building project.  I've lined up some drawings and photos, along with photos I took of these units taken a year or two ago. 

MTH made them, so you could just buy one of those.

palallin posted:

smd4 posted:

Kent Loudon posted:

And of course, the Russians invented the 4-4-0.

Where did you come up with that little bit of misinformation?

It's a joke, son; it's a joke (the Russians inwented everything first--just listen to Russian history as related by Pavel Chekhov).

I heard that Lionel invented everything first. That's what I was told, anyway.

That photo of the DD-1 (and the MTH model) show the attempt the LIRR made to "modernize" the units to pull the World's Fair shuttle trains in 1939. Always though it looked better before.

RoyBoy posted:

poniaj posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

Vincent Massi posted:

Needs some touching up. I suddenly realized that this might be a passenger car instead of an electric trolley.

It's not a passenger car.

It's a Pennsylvania Railroad DD1 electric locomotive...

Rusty

I'd not only buy one, I'm thinking of making this my next scratch building project.  I've lined up some drawings and photos, along with photos I took of these units taken a year or two ago. 

MTH made them, so you could just buy one of those.

But not in S...    If I REALLY wanted "easy", I'd model in HO.

S really does have more than most folks think, but not the more uncommon items.

Vincent Massi posted:

I wouldn't touch that 1912 Jocondes with a ten-foot pole. Designed for light fast passenger trains, they did serve successfully for about 42 years.

Why am I thinking about Jimmy Durante?

PRRMP54 posted:

Vincent Massi posted:

I wouldn't touch that 1912 Jocondes with a ten-foot pole. Designed for light fast passenger trains, they did serve successfully for about 42 years.

Why am I thinking about Jimmy Durante?

Who nose?

Issued by a British company, it probably never existed.