hardly post but here are my thoughts.
the days of conventional running the collecting and or looking for that elusive item/s is gone kaput finito during the heyday of collecting old trains and the non posts here on the forum support that very observation. as to those saying waiting a whole year for a York show is not good it seems yesteryear the attendance to that one show a year say 20-30 years ago proves that a non issue the webmaster can confirm we could read more posts about York than you could shake a stick at that's reality.
the once mighty bandit meets are no longer what they were at one time and the small posts about them again support that observation.
York is no longer exclusively about trains but has in fact turned into a social gathering part of York getting together with past friends meeting new ones and talking trains is more up front and center now as well as gathering for a good breakfast or late supper or a photo gathering this seems like the new eastern division York show.
even those having special days for hearing news from various vendors or about learning the new innovations and having questions asked by train companies and answered by representatives is dwindling in size compared to years past.
all this I have watched happen right here on this very forum how can I say that?
easy the posts from 20 years ago would be all over this forum with this is the find I have seeked or this is all the items I was able to get and cross off my list the York posts of today are meek in comparison or oh my mth just announced a dramatic command control system the hype just does not exist anymore the newer items are not as sought after as collecting is not the same anymore nor are the trains made today its a new world and we are a pin size entity vying for a space to compete with video games you can play on a smartphone! need proof look at a child with a parent in a store what's in there hand a smartphone and what are they doing playing a game aimed at what age they are at and its not a train related game.
as to eastern division and York show it seems they are trying a lot of ideas but seems has not found the avenue to generate the excitement needed for a strong attendance as well as for the vendors having more sales during the event or a reason not to pack up early! I haven't a clue how to get more folks interested as we are in trains will assume that the lack of passenger trains as most of us older generation grew up with might also have a impact of general public lack of interest as those are long gone and the childhood excitement seeing them and the once plentiful freight trains from class 1' railroads and short line railroads we live in a very different world now.
as to vendors packing up early where is the incentive not to? as to leasing the buildings for a week for the show common sense 101 folks all shows I attend at fairgrounds the vendors have 1-2 hrs to pack up after the doors closed its not rocket science allow time after shows end for them to have time to pack up if that means you pay overtime duh rethink and short both days opening time to compensate for it. not sure but seems someone posted they pay for a weeks time to use the buildings so to me a week is 7 days the show is open ? correct me if wrong 3 days so can someone explain where the other 4 days got off to time wise not to allow vendors those hours after show to pack up or is the security an extra fee they pay over and above the building fees?
I miss the days of the great American train show the first few years it was fantastic all train makers various suppliers of scenery or? were plentiful and just like the York show is now poof they all pretty much left leaving nothing more than a swap meet that folks came looked and left and nary a purchase we stopped going as well as we wanted scenic items or miniature people for our layouts and on and on all gone poof.
personally from a sideline viewer you all had a better show a better manufacturer showing with yep once a year show sorry but go back you will see twice a year and allowing public in did nothing to excite the masses but once a year and the posts flourished about it all and the vendors were plentiful vying for a spot to show the latest you just gotta have this and no bto's needed either!
that's all I have agree disagree matters not to me I can run my trains and dream and enjoy them from times of long ago to the few command control engines I have and honestly really do not need anymore I am content with what I have can you say that?