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Hi all , longtime lurker looking for help.  

I am a retired EE and have finally gotten the time and space start my empire.  I am using tubular O gauge track and switches.  I have several O22’s I picked up that I am working on refurbishing.  I have scanned the net and am using some of the great tutorials from here.  I have run into two problems that I have not seen addressed.  I am sure they have been asked and answered somewhere but I can’t find them.

1. One of my switches, bayonet base bulb so I believe pre 1950, has one of the binding head screws that attach the switch machine to the switch that is sheared off.  Unfortunately it is the one whose nut is under the O22 nameplate.  I am looking for suggestion on how to safely remove the drive screws that hold the nameplate on so I can replace the nut.  I am worried about pressing too much from the backside through the drive screw holes to try and push them out as I hate the thought of breaking the Bakelite.  The tops of the drive screws are so small I don’t think I can Dremel a slot in them.  I guess I could just grind them off.  Or do I need to try and ezout what’s left of the binding head screw from the back?  This route seems risky as the head is missing and the screw is small.  For the record I am not worried about maintaining the originality of the switch and if I destroy the nameplate in the process I will use the switch in the out of view areas.

2.  I am looking for suggestions on how to better prep these screws on the other switches for removal so this doesn’t happen again. Would a liquid wrench soak perhaps free them up?  Perhaps putting the entire unit in an evapo rust bath?  I don’t know how the internal wiring etc. would like that.

Thanks much in advance

Bill

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Since this ins't a prized possession and O22s are fairly common, I would simply punch out the O22-36 drive screws from the bottom side to liberate the O22-34 nameplate. That should then also free the O22-69 hex nut and the broken screw.

I've never had any real issues with the screws on the O22 switches provided they were not flooded out in brine and that the correct screws were used, but if a little WD-40 or similar makes you feel better, it shouldn't hurt anything.

I should expound upon my 

@bmoran4 posted:

Since this ins't a prized possession and O22s are fairly common

statement... This isn't a zero risk operation. With proper care and force, you probably won't shatter the whole Bakelite backing, but you may absolutely strip out the holes the drive pins are in requiring use of a glue/epoxy to secure the drive pins upon reassembly.

Glad you posted Bill.  It sounds like you might already have several switches.  And if you're trying to authentically re-create a Postwar layout, O22s are a must.  But for just a moment I urge you to consider Ross track and switches instead.

My experience with O22s is that they are "bumpy."  Engines and cars clunk through them with an occasional derailment.  Ross switches are so much smoother!  Plus the Ross track "system" has many special pieces that allow you to create space-saving track arrangements that would be impossible with Lionel tubular.  More realistic, and more fun in the same space.

I don't have any relationship with Ross except being a satisfied customer.  So for me, the answer to any O22 switch question, is "Ross!"  Ultimately it's your choice, and I wish you fun and success with whatever system you end up using.

Just closing this out.  I was able to “press” the drive screws out of the name plate, replace the nut and then press the screws back in.  

Unfortunately I have had three other switches where the motor nut screws would not come out and broke off even with liquid wrench help. Interesting that it has only been the ones under the name plate.   Oh well I was successful getting the drive screws out of those plates too. 

Thanks for everyone’s input and help.

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