York Apr 17

C W Burfle posted:

As for the casual sellers in the dealer halls, they will have the option to move to the member halls if they don't want to stay until 4PM on Saturday.


How does that work with the PA tax number issue?

That shouldn't be a problem since all the dealers are TCA members.  The tax issue is with the member halls being open to the public.

Brian

President, Chief Executive Officer

Penn American Railroad

"Serving the Basement"

 

Northern Central High Railers (Western Division)

 

Eat, Sleep, Run Trains, Repeat !

That shouldn't be a problem since all the dealers are TCA members.  The tax issue is with the member halls being open to the public.

For years we've been told that people who are defined as "dealers" by the PA Tax Department have to be in the dealer halls and that they must have PA tax numbers. I guess that whatever agreement the ED made with the state to allow the public into the dealer halls changed that?

C.W. Burfle
richabr posted:

I was told the driving force to this experiment was the manufacturers.

I realize I'm in the minority, but seeing what the manufacturers have is down on the list of the reasons that I go to York. Then again, I have some really large train stores near my house, unlike many of you.

I remember the Lionel exhibit years ago at the Philadelphia "World's Greatest Hobby" show. The exhibit was small (no layout), and the 2 guys manning it did not seem very welcoming to the folks attending. They looked, to me, like they wanted to be somewhere else. I don't remember what the others had, but I'm pretty sure they did not involve layouts.

Since the manufacturers don't actually sell stuff, how do they judge whether or not they had a "worthwhile show"? 

Joe Hohmann posted:
richabr posted:

I was told the driving force to this experiment was the manufacturers.

I realize I'm in the minority, but seeing what the manufacturers have is down on the list of the reasons that I go to York. Then again, I have some really large train stores near my house, unlike many of you.

I remember the Lionel exhibit years ago at the Philadelphia "World's Greatest Hobby" show. The exhibit was small (no layout), and the 2 guys manning it did not seem very welcoming to the folks attending. They looked, to me, like they wanted to be somewhere else. I don't remember what the others had, but I'm pretty sure they did not involve layouts.

Since the manufacturers don't actually sell stuff, how do they judge whether or not they had a "worthwhile show"? 

Excellent question, but the answer has already been determined on this forum; thereby forcing the EDTCA to open to the public.

C W Burfle posted:

That shouldn't be a problem since all the dealers are TCA members.  The tax issue is with the member halls being open to the public.

For years we've been told that people who are defined as "dealers" by the PA Tax Department have to be in the dealer halls and that they must have PA tax numbers. I guess that whatever agreement the ED made with the state to allow the public into the dealer halls changed that?

I guess it depends on what the definition of a dealer is.  Just because the small cottage industry guys have table space in the Orange Hall doesn't mean they're large dealers.  There are some table holders in the member halls that are similar sellers as them.

But we can't even get full info on the pubic admission policy, I doubt we'll ever know what deal the ED made with the state.

Brian

President, Chief Executive Officer

Penn American Railroad

"Serving the Basement"

 

Northern Central High Railers (Western Division)

 

Eat, Sleep, Run Trains, Repeat !

Joe Hohmann posted:

Well, here we go...I Googled "train shows", and got a site Trains.com. Lo and behold, they had: Billy Budd, Commonwealth Fire Hall, and Reliance Fire Hall all listed with links to all the details. All the ED has to do is submit the details for the York Fairgrounds Show.

I'd bet there are thousands that use this site to find shows.

I checked this list again. Still not listed. It's a FREE listing, for crying out loud!

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