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Now that Train Shows and other more traditional outlets have all but dried up, what are your "Holy Grail" items that you have always wanted, but never were able to purchase?  These may be rare, they may be highly priced or for what ever other reason simply not available. 

In my case, I always wanted the MTH F-40 in the Kool-Aid paint scheme.  It's not all that sophisticated, but it does have an attractive livery.  The engine pops up once in a while, but still commands a premium price.  I finally got one.

What are you looking for?  Maybe some "connections" will be made.

(The purpose here is not to back door a "wanted" posting, more so a genuine discussion of desired pieces)

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The original Vapor Records Boxcar.

Note I do not mean the quite readily available 6-29218.  It looks just like that car, but it's basically almost impossible to tell the difference from the deco on the car itself. 

I don't have the details committed perfectly to memory (but I know it's in the back of one of the McComas price guides from years ago ), but I believe you need to open one of the boxcar doors and peer inside to see a stamping on the frame inside the car, and also have the shipping carton, which may be the only thing with the different catalog number called out on it (not sure if this car has a label on the end of the regular box or not  - again, details not quite committed to memory )

I'm pretty sure I've never seen one for sale (and I made sure to look at the Neil Young auction from Julien's a few years ago to check!) .  Every time I look at a table, everyone asks "what are you looking for ?"  And when I explain, nine times out of ten they will not know what the heck I am talking about ant they will only think there is one of the cars that looks like that.

I'm pretty sure I will never end up with one, even if one did come up for sale, I would probably not be willing to part with the price it would most likey command.  But the title of the thread is "Holy Grail"! .

-Dave

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My Holy Grail item has never been made and probably never will be made.  I want a 3-rail O scale TGV set.  For years, I have anxiously awaited each new MTH catalog hoping that they would have made the investment in molds to make the TGV.  It has never happened, and with MTH closing its doors, I don't think it ever will. 

I bought an HO TGV set at a train store in Paris when I was there several years ago.  I fear that is as close as I will ever get to my Holy Grail.

I guess the mint, sealed set box 700e prewar set.  However, I think its still sitting in Toronto.   Or the boys set; the all blue salesman set from 1958 I think.  Third choice would be the  JC Penny COB set.

A lot of the stuff I have bought at York was stuff I didn't know existed.  I never read the catalogs and prefer to buy in person.  I like to see/touch the actual item i am buying.

So in the spirit of "common as an item but impossible to find without any damage" :

The Lionel 6-16955 Flat with New Holland Loader.

This was one of the first (for the late 90's era - there were certainly earlier items such as PW hand cars with similar chemical reaction issues) flats with the problem with the treads/wheels of the vehicle on the flat having a bad chemical reaction with the flatcar surface.

Most all of these look like big messy blobs of glue are holding the treads to the surface of the car.  The Loader was supposed to be removable!   I've never seen one where the problem was noted early enough to stop the damage entirely.  The only hope might be if someone gave one to a kid when they were new and the loader was immediately removed from the flat car to play with it separately.  But of course that scenario generally does not result in a prime specimen once the play is done.  

Later cars in the series had a sheet of (non-reacting) plastic between the vehicle wheels/treads and the flatcar to prevent this issue.

So a mint 16955 is another Holy Grail item for me.

-Dave

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