Your never to old to read the directions!

As my Dad, an electrical engineer used to say, "Always read the destructions first."

All the best,

Miketg

That's a nice looking set Chris. Thanks for the heads up on that horn.

That's pretty neat.

Makes me wonder what other cool things I'm not taking advantage of regarding my trains...hmmmm

Really cool feature. The video is great to highlight the difference in sounds.

 

Look forward to seeing you next week.

First of all.  Cool horn idea.  Way to go, Lionel!

 

And yes, often the directions tell you things you didn't know you didn't know.  Still, I don't always, even though I know I should . . . 

 

Beyond the instructions often telling you the things you really need to know, they do explain about those "unknown unknowns" which will certainly make Dick Cheney happy!

Great sounding horns and as for reading directions I like to see what trouble I can get into and then I read the directions afterward if I need to.

 

Lionel has done the Whistle/horn in the S-3 which Eric demonstrated in his review. Eric didn't demonstrate the 2 horns in the Zepher review.  

 

 

 

Chris,

All I can say is, " YOU BETCHA!  ".

It's not about age, it's about suppressing that urge to figure it all out by yourself without the manual. 

Thanks for the post. I just purchased the Zepher and ran it for the first time yesterday, now all I have to do is remember this (aux1).  I need to start a cheat sheet. 

 

I too watched Eric's review. 

The older I get, the more inclined I've been to read directions.

But I've found out why I've been blowing off directions for most of my life... they're often very poorly written.

When I bought my DCC system for my layout, I'm glad I had two guys with me who knew all about that stuff to hook it up and handle the wiring, because I later tried to read the instructions and I really didn't 'get' hardly any of it as it had almost no diagrams and the verbiage was very confusing to me.

Ditto and amen, on lousy directions, even if, and you're lucky, they were written by

English speakers. Many new car instructions won't tell you at what mileage you should

change the oil.  It will pop up on your dash and blot out the screen when you're

a hundred miles from a dealer in the middle of South Dakota.  I was just working on

my lawn mower, and noted that the "manual" didn't bother to mention what spark plug

it took, air filter to use, weight of oil to use when changing, etc.  I have all that penciled in the inside cover, now.  I guess you do that with trains.  Why read instructions, that are useless, and then have to write your own?

That's pretty cool! When I'm bored, I usually flip through some of my trains' instruction booklets. Though I've never really looked at any one instruction booklet before I mess with the train, and rarely even within a week of buying the item. I guess I'm just too exited to run the trains!!!

DIRECTIONS?  WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' DIRECTIONS!  

 

Exactly Keith;  I'm just an overgrown kid who can't wait to run the train!

That was great!  Nice videography!

Chris, you always cost me money.  Now I want one.  Bring it over any day but Thursday.

Jeez, now I want a Zephyr.  Correction, now I need a Zephyr...

Not to tempt you guy's any further but... I believe Nassau Hobby still has these in stock!

 

 

http://www.nassauhobby.com/Bur...neer-Zephyr-Set.html

 

 

 

David, we can blame Chris.  BTW Chris, my guy has one on the radar for me.

We'll run it Saturday Marty!

I've admired the various Lionel scale Zephyrs and recently started watching them more so with the numerous dealer markdowns out there.  However, as the character Dirty Harry once said, "A man has got to know his limitations."

 

Lionel's product description:
Minimum Curve: O-72

 

And my layout has 0-54 curves.

Just don't post a video showing me this model running smoothly through 0-54 or I'm likely a goner

Lionel has selectable whistles and horns on several models. My Milwaukee Road S3 has three - two whistles and an air horn. I believe some of the Daylights have a selectable whistle or air horn. This was common on real locomotives in the late 30's - the sound from the air horns carried better, so they were used at speed, while the whistle was used in the yard or in the station. 

I am about ready to pull the trigger on this one.  The only limitation is the credit card and I've got one with the Zephyr's name written all over it.  I had to let go of a LionMaster Big Boy because it looked so small against my UP Baldwin Centipede.  The Centipede is listed as Standard O and so is the Zephyr.  Does anybody think that they would look out of place side by side.  And I hated to let go of the Big Boy when I took it out for some pics cause it was so heavy and well built.  A forumite got it.

I don't think there is much that wouldn't look small next to the centipede but I think the Zepher would look smaller in real life anyway. Both are scale engines. 

The real Zephyr is a pretty small train. It would look small next to a Centipede, but that is what they were in the real world, so I wouldn't worry about it. 

Chris, good point about the Centipede.  Nassau Hobby is about to get a new customer.  Thanks for the link. 

No problem David; They'll take good care of you!

David, I happen to have both, so I took a picture.  I couldn't resist either one with the deal Nassau had on them.

Thank you rboatertoo, that sealed the deal.  What radius track were the pics taken on?  I'll be running O-84 Fastrack and O-96 FT once it is released.

David.  FYI. My Zepher runs on 0-84 with no problems. The minimum for the engine is 0-72.

Chris, just got done with the order.  I did a "shout out" to you and rboatertoo in the comments section on the Nassau Hobby order form. Thanks for all the help you guys provided.  I suppose is should be angry with you as it set back my purchase of the Vision line Big Boy, but it was a screaming deal on the Zephyr and I did say I needed one...

Thanks also to LP.sr. for helping make the Zephyr happen by giving the LionMaster Big Boy a new home.  I was fairly impressed by the Lionel Zephyr Manual when it came to the Legacy controls but it was not mentioned, at least from my initial scan that the AUX-1 button did what it did, which is what started this topic and ultimately my purchase.  It turned out well for all, I think.

72 radius. Sorry I didn't see your post earlier

The boy is converted me from conventional to legacy and dcs!!

David. I sent you the link for Eric's review.  Let's see some pics when you get the Zepher.