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Vanderbilt Tender?

BD Bob DelbridgeOGR Forum Member
I'm planning on building a Vanderbilt tender, one that Seaboard used behind their 2-8-2 Q-3 Mikados.

Other than a couple of blurry and small photos, I have nothing much to go by other than a dimensional drawing in the Seaboard book done by Richard Prince. The dimensions are fine, but the drawing isn't scale and really doesn't look much like the tender in question.

I did find this link:

VANDERBILT TENDER

This tender is very close to the SAL tender.

While the water tank and coal bunker are fairly easy to model, almost nothing can be found on what the front of the tender or the underframe looked like. The link I posted does have a photo of the front end, but it's missing parts and I'm not sure what I'm even looking at or what purpose some of the things I can identify are for.

I'd really like to get the underframe as close as possible. If someone has info they'd like to share I'd be grateful.
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FM Former Member
The iunderframe of a Vanderbilt tender is fairly staight forward, being much like that of a tank car with a heavy centersill. However the front end sill is heavier that the rear end sill, as it containing the drawbar to the loco as well as the deck for the cab floor apron.

I think I have a photo or two of a B&O Vanderbilt front end and maybe one of the tail too. Let me know by direct email if you're intersted and I could scan them for you.

Ed Bommer
BD Bob DelbridgeOGR Forum Member
Thanks Ed, will do!

I noticed on one of the photos in the link, as well as a photo of a Seaboard tender, that there appears to be a part of the underframe that comes off at an angle from the center sill and connects to the rear sill (box-like piece on the end). It looks like it attaches to the center sill where the bolster is located.

Anything you can provide will be of great help!
B bob2OGR Forum Member
Yeah, there might have been . . .

The level of detail you are looking for is probably lost, or in some museum somewhere. You probably will have to fake it, like I did. My Seaboard Mountain has the same tender, but all I wanted was to make sure it sort of looked like the photo in Trains Magazine in the 1950s.

If you loosen up a bit and do not have to have an exact copy, the 48/ft article will make tender building easy for you.
BD Bob DelbridgeOGR Forum Member
I'm really curious about the underframe.

It looks like the tank is sitting on another thickness of sheet metal that is shaped to the tank and is where the underframe beams are attached (welded or riveted). The "beams" look like channels, but I'm not sure how the bolster area is built.

I have an HO Mountain with a Vanderbilt tender, I'll pull that out and take a look at what detail they had.
mwbmwbOGR Forum Member
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Originally posted by Bob Delbridge:
Thanks Bob.

All you guys are great! Thanks for the help so far, I hope to have something to show soon, but first I need to dig out that magazine article.


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1993 December Scratch Building a Venderbuilt Tender - Part 1 Turner, Bob
1994 February Scratch Building a Vanderbuilt Tender - Part 2 Turner, Bob

If you can't find a copy, contact me directly.
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