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Apples55 posted:PSAP2010 posted:Paul, if you really want one , you could always buy an MTH PS1 version and have it converted to TMCC.
Larry
Another bad influence is heard from!!!
But seriously, Larry, the thought did cross my mind, but I have no idea what would be involved (other than money!!!). I do own one MTH engine, a shelf queen Metro North Genesis in NH livery, which I would consider for a conversion.
ERR by 3rd Rail is TMCC Compatible
Bob
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happy "F E F" !
taking down the tree day... have a great weekend !!
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RSJB18 posted:Apples55 posted:PSAP2010 posted:Paul, if you really want one , you could always buy an MTH PS1 version and have it converted to TMCC.
Larry
Another bad influence is heard from!!!
But seriously, Larry, the thought did cross my mind, but I have no idea what would be involved (other than money!!!). I do own one MTH engine, a shelf queen Metro North Genesis in NH livery, which I would consider for a conversion.
ERR by 3rd Rail is TMCC Compatible
Bob
Apples 55,
THe other front end when running backwards.
Ron
I forgot something!
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My Kato N Scale Amtrak Genesis from 2011 is my Front End Friday entry this week.
Yes, the structural integrity of the bridge pier in the foreground was compromised, but all of the rail equipment was able to pass under the bridge without clipping the pier
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Lionel, postwar, EMD F-3, A-B-A Diesels lead the Super Chief into the station at the town of Terryville.
A Lionel, 736 Berkshire steam locomotive from the postwar era heads a 17 car box car train on the freight track through the town of Terryville.
Two Lionel, postwar locomotives, an S-2 Steam Turbine and an EMD F-3 Diesel, pull their passenger trains out the city of Christopolis' Union Station for points east and west.
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RSJB18 posted:Apples55 posted:PSAP2010 posted:Paul, if you really want one , you could always buy an MTH PS1 version and have it converted to TMCC.
Larry
Another bad influence is heard from!!!
But seriously, Larry, the thought did cross my mind, but I have no idea what would be involved (other than money!!!). I do own one MTH engine, a shelf queen Metro North Genesis in NH livery, which I would consider for a conversion.
ERR by 3rd Rail is TMCC Compatible
Bob
RSJB18 posted:So now that I've finished nudging Paul over the cliff....
Happy FEF!
Bob... Bob... Bob...
No way you could nudge me over the cliff. I have been in free fall for so long, I don’t even remember what the cliff looks like
Now, a few salient points on your evil suggestion... while I am aware that ERR is TMCC compatible, I have recently given more than enough money to 3rd Rail for a while (but that will be the subject of another post in the next day or so). And even if I did find a compatible MTH engine, acknowledged Techno-peasant I would have no idea what has to come out of said engine, nor how I go about inserting/connecting the suggested ERR board or boards, so I would need to find/pay a more technically competent individual to do the swap. That would definitely send the total cost over a new comparable Lionel diesel such a another recent purchase (which will also be in the aforementioned post). So I guess I will just have to wait and hope... the first Lionel catalogue is just weeks away!!!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but yes that is bad!
Tom
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MNCW posted:Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but yes that is bad!
Tom
It's so ugly, it is actually beautiful'....... we've all seen humans and animals that fit the same description............
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LeapinLarry,
Seeing your post earlier today made me decide to take a few pix this evening when I got off the train.
These CSX or SFRTA trucks are usually parked in the Tri-Rail parking garage at my Tri-Rail station (Pompano Beach). One of them has a Washington State license plate up front. Need to check one day what the rear plate (the official location used in Florida) is.
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happy "F E F" everyone !!
have a great weekend !!
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Second in line today!
If the moderators are okay, I'm going to use some stills from my YouTube Channel videos on a trip to New York back in February 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGFQz4ysm8M
It was a cold, blustery morning at the Woodside/61st Street station in Queens with a nice icy feel. According to Weather Underground, the temperature that day at nearby LaGuardia Airport was 45 degrees at the time I was filming there (basically 8:00a - 10:00a). With 14 mph winds the wind chill was around 38 up there on the elevated platforms, and I had fun.
Two LIRR M7's heading east to Long Island.
R62A Number 7 Train heading to Manhattan
R188 Number 7 Train heading to Flushing
The ”Rear” front of this LIRR M7 heading to Manhattan
And another “Rear” front view of an LIRR M7 heading east when I visited my old teenage stomping grounds at Nostrand Avenue in Brooklyn a couple days before. If I had the room (don't we all wish) I would replicate this long elevated straightaway in O complete with buildings and under track streetscape scenery like others have done in layouts. Would need at least 12-14 feet of straight track though. The stuff produced by Bridgeboss would be perfect for this.
Happy Front End Friday everyone!
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Happy FEF!
Since you guy's are all picking on the humble BL-2, I need to put both of my BL-2's side by side and take a shot of the rear ends......
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NJT EMD GP40PH-2 #4107, ex- CNJ #3680 at Elizabeth port shops- Oct.86'.
This engine was built in Oct. 1968 and is still on NJT roster.
MY PHOTO
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Happy F E F, good people!
A familiar face was in Johnstown, Pa that day.
I look about 12 in that pic so 1962, about to board the Chicago El.
I just now took this pic of another familiar face.
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Steam help for Growler-powered Pennsy Varnish!
From my height (walking on right) I look about 5 which means Dad took this pic in 1955 which was pretty late to see steam on the PRR Mainline.
On Edit: That seems far-fetched. That must be my Brother which would make it about 1948 which is much more reasonable, especially since my only memory of revenue steam was a B&O passenger train.
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OK here is my "front end view" for this Friday. NYC F-3 readies for her run to the City...pretty much stopping traffic in "small town" right at the busiest time of day !!
Don
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geysergazer posted:
We all sported those nice close haircuts in those days'.. And you look like cool hand Lew'. A young one for sure'... Great pictures'.... 1962... that was a good year for me.. Lots of memories...... and adventures'... Something I think most kids miss out on today. Videos and cell phones can't replace real adventure'...
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A Happy F E F to all here!
Winter:
Well, "Spring" actually. A Maple Sugar Special at West Salisbury, Pa with FPA2 #4015 on-point.
Summer:
Again, #4015 running-around an excursion train, a train with the home-built open-air car.
Switching action on the PER.
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Playing with early morning light on this F E F.
At this time-of-year the Sun rises in the Southeast and streams in the South-facing Train Room window so the light hits this Northwest facing engine.
A few feet further forward:
I like this shot the best, taken with the train another few feet further forward:
Finally, a Front End of a different kind:
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It is June 1949 and the Train of Tomorrow has completed its 2-year tour of the U.S. and is getting ready for its visit to Canada.
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Wow great looking line up already guys!
happy "F E F" everyone !
Marci caught this one working out at the Anderson's last week...
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NJT G.E. E60, 6000 HP, Electric at E-Port- Oct. 86'. All ten NJT E60s were retired in 1998.
This engine was saved and donated to the UHRS of NJ.
MY PHOTO
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Here is a 1:1 scale picture of Irish Rail Express at Dublin in the Irish Republic ready to depart for Belfast in Northern Ireland. Wife and I
were on this train, May 26, 2019 .
Happy FEF everyone
Don
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Here we go with my originally intended entries for today. My 7:02 am photo sent in earlier this morning on my commute was just perfect timing
Two shots from last Friday afternoon of southbound Tri-Rail trains at the Metrorail/Tri-Rail Transfer Station in Hialeah.
First, loco BL36PH #822
And then GP49 #816. This was an out of service train leaving the Hialeah rail yards to Miami Airport to get in place for its northbound run.
You will notice that the trains are running to the left side of the engineer. Because of the design of the transfer station, both northbound and southbound trains will alternate the platform they operate on. The west side platform I took the pictures from is the one that is directly connected to the Metrorail station (the east side platform is connected via overhead walkway to the west side platform on the north end of the station in addition to crossing the tracks at-grade at the south end of the station) so depending on the time of day, the trains with the majority of the directional flow of passengers gets the west side platform so that commuters can make their transfer connections easier to/from each mode.
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Since its still Friday where I am, here's a couple of fast front ends from a trip my wife and I took to Italy last May (about which I posted a short description on OGR last June). These front ends look fast, even when standing still. The first is Alstom's ETR-675 for the private rail Italo, which we rode from Rome to Venice.
The second is Bombardier's ETR1000, the "red arrow" built for the state railway Trenitalia
which we rode from Venice to Florence.
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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:
Ted. Thank you very much. 🤝
Johan
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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:
Thanks, the water tower itself was built by me with much help from a friend and I did the final scene, here are a couple more views:
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Good evening Ray, I agree that is a nice scene.
I like all the small details even the water drain grate in the concrete.
Nice job !!!!!
Thanks for the additional pics Ray'.. It is indeed a perfect scene in every aspect'.. And of course as mentioned by Mark, the details are the eye candy that pulls it all together'...!!!
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Happy "F E F" everyone !!
have a GREAT Superbowl weekend
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Happy F E F to all here!
This photo is owned by NASA and is Public Domain.
And this pic I took yesterday:
MTH got the horns almost correct. On the prototype they are centered whereas on the model they are offset to the right but I'm good with it. Also, the trucks are white on the prototype, not gray.
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Sperry Rail Services #118 on NYS&W, former Lehigh & Hudson River, track at Franklin, NJ- April 87'.
This was the site of a massive derailment that took out a highway bridge.
MY PHOTOS
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My Lionel Boy Scouts of America set from 2011 when I was a Cubmaster (that's my Assistant Scoutmaster photo in my avatar)
Enjoy your Front End Friday!!!
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briansilvermustang posted:
Happy "F E F" everyone !!
have a GREAT Superbowl weekend
Brian, what a beautiful paint job on 16B'. I just love that color scheme on the MLK Road Locos...
geysergazer posted:Happy F E F to all here!
This photo is owned by NASA and is Public Domain.
And this pic I took yesterday:
MTH got the horns almost correct. On the prototype they are centered whereas on the model they are offset to the right but I'm good with it. Also, the trucks are white on the prototype, not gray.
Lew, that is a very handsome locomotive'.. Didn't know NASA had locos. Where did you take that photo? We need more information and history'...
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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:geysergazer posted:Happy F E F to all here!
This photo is owned by NASA and is Public Domain.
And this pic I took yesterday:
MTH got the horns almost correct. On the prototype they are centered whereas on the model they are offset to the right but I'm good with it. Also, the trucks are white on the prototype, not gray.
Lew, that is a very handsome locomotive'.. Didn't know NASA had locos. Where did you take that photo? We need more information and history'...
Ted, the prototype photo was taken at the Kennedy Space Center by a NASA photographer. According to Wiki they have 38mi of track. I have permission to post this map because it is marked as Public Domain (by Wiki):
Their reporting mark is NLAX.
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geysergazer posted:Quarter Gauger 48 posted:geysergazer posted:Happy F E F to all here!
This photo is owned by NASA and is Public Domain.
And this pic I took yesterday:
MTH got the horns almost correct. On the prototype they are centered whereas on the model they are offset to the right but I'm good with it. Also, the trucks are white on the prototype, not gray.
Lew, that is a very handsome locomotive'.. Didn't know NASA had locos. Where did you take that photo? We need more information and history'...
Ted, the prototype photo was taken at the Kennedy Space Center by a NASA photographer. According to Wiki they have 38mi of track. I have permission to post this map because it is marked as Public Domain (by Wiki):
Their reporting mark is NLAX.
Now how cool would it be to build this as a model RR. Saturn V rockets and all........
Trains&Rockets! What could be better?
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Good evening, I shot a couple of short videos last week for this weeks Front End Friday.
In the first video we see Pennsy M1a 6715 patiently waiting at W Interlock.
The M1 and it's crew should have been long gone by now but had to set off three coal hoppers for a local business. This delay has put them behind schudule and will now have to wait for a boxcar drag which is led by a Pennsy L1 to pass before they can proceed.
The second video is M1a 6715 getting under way with its coal drag.
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Here's my contribution to "front end Friday". The Big Berk pulls out of the hole, she may be pulling Harriman's on the commuter run, downgraded from the main and the Atlanta Express, but the engine man knows the power of this steed and he hesitates not and hangs on the whistle. What a show for all the kids in "small town".
Have a great weekend...Don
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Don McErlean posted:Here's my contribution to "front end Friday". The Big Berk pulls out of the hole, she may be pulling Harriman's on the commuter run, downgraded from the main and the Atlanta Express, but the engine man knows the power of this steed and he hesitates not and hangs on the whistle. What a show for all the kids in "small town".
Have a great weekend...Don
EXCELLENT!!!! Beautiful locos, rolling stock, and layout'...
RSJB18 posted:geysergazer posted:Quarter Gauger 48 posted:geysergazer posted:Happy F E F to all here!
This photo is owned by NASA and is Public Domain.
And this pic I took yesterday:
MTH got the horns almost correct. On the prototype they are centered whereas on the model they are offset to the right but I'm good with it. Also, the trucks are white on the prototype, not gray.
Lew, that is a very handsome locomotive'.. Didn't know NASA had locos. Where did you take that photo? We need more information and history'...
Ted, the prototype photo was taken at the Kennedy Space Center by a NASA photographer. According to Wiki they have 38mi of track. I have permission to post this map because it is marked as Public Domain (by Wiki):
Their reporting mark is NLAX.
Now how cool would it be to build this as a model RR. Saturn V rockets and all........
That is so cool Lew'. The east side of that yard should be adjacent to Coco Beach'.. I watched rockets go up from areas outside Nasa area in 1982. Been to Coco Beach, but don't recall the yard'...
Definitely a great idea for a layout'.......... Thanks for posting'... Lew'... 😃
Good morning all.
Some Tri-Rail Bombardier Cab Cars for Happy Front End Friday!
1:160 Scale:
1:87.1 Scale:
1:48 Scale:
1:1 Scale:
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I know I showed a similar photo of my Weaver Torpedo a couple months ago, but it is so neat I had to do it again.
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happy "F E F" !!!
have a great weekend everyone !
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Its 1950 and with increasing tension in the free world, the Air Force Missile contingent, based in Small Town along the right of way of the Leonardtown and Savannah (ne "Long and Skinny) begins to move their missiles up from storage to be ready to fire and defend our nation from those "Ruskie Reds"!! (Anybody here besides me old enough to remember when we actually had "Minutemen" missile batteries around our towns, I had one).
Happy F.E.F everyone !!
Don McErlean
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Good evening, I realize that this post is really for model or toy trains but I can’t resist posting these photo’s taken today of some NS trains in the newly fallen snow that we got overnight.
This is the largest amount of snow we have had so far this year.
So here are some photos and a short video for my contribution this week for FEF !!!
Whats better than a Friday off work, nice white snow and big black engines !!!
Have a good weekend !!!
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The Pennsy said this was the front end of their ARS10
Other railroads that bought the RS-1 said this was the front end
On the Pomfret Northern, we run the Weaver anyway we want.
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a Valentine's Day "F E F"... don't forget your Valentine today !
have a great weekend everyone !!
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A happy F E F to all here! (And Happy Valentines Day if you do that )
Spring '99 Maple Festival Special, Meyersdale, Pa:
A generic Powder River coal train in Eastern Wy/Western Nebraska, c. 1991:
In da' Burgh, c. '98:
{I lied. From the pantograph this is obviously the rear-end }
Dead front end:
Front end drama courtesy the Winter Sun:
The other front end:
And finally, a front end of a different kind:
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From the archives: Black River & Western Rwy. Pacific #148, Alco- Richmond 1920, ex- F.E.C., at Ringoes, NJ- Oct. 72'. This engine is currently being restored to operation in Fla. by U.S. Sugar Co.
MY PHOTOS
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More photos from the past
My FCMTS club traveling modular layout – don’t recall the respective locations - in December 2015…
…and September 2016
As with most of what ever items I sell off, I regret it years later. Loved this RailKing consist with the “Bloody Nose” that I put together then (had to use the full length dome car to simulate my long wished for Viewliner 😊 ) but now looking towards the future with Premier & GGD equipment.
Happy FEF!
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Guys : In an astounding development, the Leonardtown and Savannah (long and skinny) in an attempt to improve the speed of their Savannah - Atlanta express has contracted with Japanese Rail authorities to try out the Japanese "Bullet" train on their line. With the generous agreement of operating labor, the management has imported a train set for trial. The attached shows the inaugural run using Japanese operators with L&S operators riding as coach / trainer poised for the first trial run to Atlanta. GO L&S !!
Happy Front End Friday !
Side view of trainset - showing happy passengers
Rear end view - showing trademark
Box - this was purchased by me, new in box, in Okinawa, Japan
Happy Front End Friday everyone
Don McErlean
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Don McErlean posted:Guys : In an astounding development, the Leonardtown and Savannah (long and skinny) in an attempt to improve the speed of their Savannah - Atlanta express has contracted with Japanese Rail authorities to try out the Japanese "Bullet" train on their line. With the generous agreement of operating labor, the management has imported a train set for trial. The attached shows the inaugural run using Japanese operators with L&S operators riding as coach / trainer poised for the first trial run to Atlanta. GO L&S !!
Happy Front End Friday !
Side view of trainset - showing happy passengers
Rear end view - showing trademark
Box - this was purchased by me, new in box, in Okinawa, Japan
Happy Front End Friday everyone
Don McErlean
Not to stray off topic. I saw the "Friction Powered" on the box and didn't realize what it meant until I googled it.😀. Interesting item. Do you have an idea what period it was produced?
Kevin: Ahhh...you have discovered my secret, this is not a track train but is in fact a floor toy that is friction powered, meaning you push it along the floor to sort of wind up the motor and then let it go and it zooms across the floor under its own power. However it is actually O gauge and the wheels do fit (more or less) the track which is why I put it there for the FEF picture.
The toy was purchased new at a small "mom and pop" toy store in Okinawa, Japan in 1987 when I visited our AF base there. It was brand new in the box so I would assume its date of manufacture was not too far off of the purchase date. Shopping in this rather small and rural like town was an interesting experience. The proprietors (yes "mom and pop") could not have been more wonderful and friendly (although neither spoke much English). When I made clear I wanted to buy toys for my two sons they were very pleased and friendly and went to great extent to show me their merchandise and demonstrate how the various toys worked. After I made my selections, the toys were carefully wrapped in decorative paper (like Christmas presents) for me to take home. For us Walmart trained folks, that shopping experience was quite unique and really very pleasant.
Don McErlean
Yes, I remember friction-powered toys! Had several of them I am sure. They would be more properly called "flywheel-drive". You pushed them initially to spin the flywheel up to speed and then that stored energy kept them going for a ways. IIRC they didn't last very long because energetic pushing tended to strip the gears, of which there were several speed multiplication steps.
Paul
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Don McErlean posted:Kevin: Ahhh...you have discovered my secret, this is not a track train but is in fact a floor toy that is friction powered, meaning you push it along the floor to sort of wind up the motor and then let it go and it zooms across the floor under its own power. However it is actually O gauge and the wheels do fit (more or less) the track which is why I put it there for the FEF picture.
The toy was purchased new at a small "mom and pop" toy store in Okinawa, Japan in 1987 when I visited our AF base there. It was brand new in the box so I would assume its date of manufacture was not too far off of the purchase date. Shopping in this rather small and rural like town was an interesting experience. The proprietors (yes "mom and pop") could not have been more wonderful and friendly (although neither spoke much English). When I made clear I wanted to buy toys for my two sons they were very pleased and friendly and went to great extent to show me their merchandise and demonstrate how the various toys worked. After I made my selections, the toys were carefully wrapped in decorative paper (like Christmas presents) for me to take home. For us Walmart trained folks, that shopping experience was quite unique and really very pleasant.
Don McErlean
Cool back story Don. Several of the 1/32-1/43 size diecast cars on sale in the drug stores now are pull and go, so probably based off the same concept.
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Hey Lew - Nice pics but it's only Wednesday. Just sayin.
trumptrain posted:Hey Lew - Nice pics but it's only Wednesday. Just sayin.
Hee! Talk about a senior.........moment? It is a wonderful about being retired; not having to know what day of the week it is.
ON EDIT: Now that its finally Friday I'm back in touch with Time.
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Happy FEF!
Lew- we will pardon your "senior moment". Can't wait till I don't have to care what day of the week it is.....
Just received this new member of the fleet yesterday. It'll be on the rails tomorrow for SWSat!
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happy "F E F" everyone !!
have a great weekend !
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Hi Guys: An unexpected increase in passenger traffic headed from Savannah to Atlanta has caught the L&S short on motive power (EMD is a little slow with those F's we ordered). So, out of the ready line comes Hafner streamlined steam power ready to take the 5 pm "Business Man's Special" up to the big city. Be there in time for cocktails and a late dinner.
Happy F.E.F. Don McErlean
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Late to the party today'... Newest member to the fleet'...after some super detailing... Here she is'..
😁 Rides Like a Feather'..
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A little late....
Paul
That GM nose herald on the demonstrators always makes e think "Super Hero"
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happy "F E F" everybody !!
time to get these two working the rails... have a great day !
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B&M GP40 #306 (Guilford Industries) run through power on NYS&W at Little Ferry, NJ- Nov.86'.
MY PHOTO
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Great photo's everyone!
Here's a shot of a pair of Williams F3's on my old layout....
Paul
Ted, my Niece is leaning on the Bug, my nephew is sitting on my Ford and our Scotty dog is sitting on the hood....c. '69-'70
Needless to say we set that shot up. Dad liked doing stuff like that.
Hi F.E.F. folks, just got home from work so I am sending in my entries for this week. First, I want to compliment SIRT on his CNJ, this is my favorite real railroad, and I just got the Lionchief CNJ RS-3 in the mail and I will likely put it into service this weekend (it is my first command control locomotive). I have two CNJ steamers, one is part of a Blue Comet set and one just a MPC Lionel 2-4-0 but also blue for some reason.
OK - let me apologize in advance if I am breaking some rule, but I thought you all might like to see this Marx lithographed train floor toy...it is about 0-gauge size but is not a track toy as it does not have flanged wheels. It is however wildly colored lithography.
Here is the F.E.F view, royal blue, red , and yellow. Quite a paint job !
Here is the side view , with the tender (attached to rear of cab).
Now to my "official" F.E.F. input.... The Leonardtown and Savannah (L&S or "Long and Skinny) still has in this year of 1950 a solid commuter business but little generated on - line freight, hence it is bleeding money and needs modern motive power to retire its steam fleet. Luckily the Western Pacific, due to a downturn in its loadings, has put up a set of F-3 AA's for sale or lease. L&S management, being historically tight with funding, has decided that second hand is the way to go as opposed to trying to get a deal from EMD. Here are the units, poised in front of the Savannah depot, getting ready to take the 4pm commuter home to "Small Town" for its initial trial ....there it will turn and run back to get the 5:30 and repeat the turn. It will then overnight in Small Town to be ready to go in the morning. The operating dept is eagerly awaiting the idea that they will be able to turn the locomotive without dumping ashes, reloading coal, getting water...just "fill 'er up" and go out again. That and tomorrow morning, no need for a crew to report 2 hrs early to get the fire going for the days runs. Wow - management is already cashing those bonus checks !
Have a good weekend
Don McErlean
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Some Real O Gauge Front Ends'...
I thought you may enjoy seeing some of these great vintage locomotives from the Danbury, CT. RR museum. When I photographed these engines in 1986, they were in operable condition. Over the past 33 years they have held up well considering what they have endured'... Grabs, spot lights, and MU hook ups and rust are the focal points'.... possible reference for detailing if you are so inclined'... In all photos taken by me'..
more to come'...
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Late to the party today, so here goes.
My LIRR M7's from September 2011
And then post-Christmas 2011 with some Trolleys when I getting ready to take the layout down
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Quarter gauger...great photos, thanks its always good to see the real thing!
Rusty: You are right, they are not F-3's that was careless in working off the top of my head, i guess I tend to call all cab units F-3's since that is what Lionel called them. I personally make no claim of knowing how to tell the difference without reference material. So when I got your response, I decided to "hit the books" to see what I could find out and what I found is that whether or not they are E-7's is at least somewhat in question iaw the various references . Lets look at what they were called by the guy who made them...Marx...From 1951 when they were introduced until 1973 the year before the last catalog, Marx never referred to them in their catalog with any official EMD designation. They were always labeled just..."twin unit diesel" . In '51 and '52" they were described as "the latest type". In '54 the verbiage called them "Scale model , latest type, twin unit diesel in SF design..." In '58 same words except for substituting ..."in Western Pacific design" (the ones I pictured). Subsequently from '66 to '73 they were always just referred to as a ..."twin unit diesel" without modifiers. Then in 1974 the last year of the catalogs, in describing set 41850, in talking about the plastic PC engine it contains, the loco was referred to as..."a contemporary F-7" . Matzke in his book on Marx chose to label them E-7's. He admits and discusses in the book that because of wheel configuration and their short stature they are often viewed more to resemble F-7's but he decided to label them E-7's due to (his words)..."side frame design and grill side molding" which he maintained was quite accurate for the E-7.
So like so much of Marx, the company didn't much care what you called them as long as you bought them !!
So I leave it to you diesel experts as to what it may properly be labeled. To me its just a toy that provides a bit of fun going around an endless loop pulling my imaginary passengers, going nowhere or delivering virtual freight to the same place (no where).
Best Regards, Don
Happy FEF!!! First, a sad shot from my visit to the Danbury RR Museum a couple of years ago...
And one of my big steamers...
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Don McErlean posted:.....Matzke in his book on Marx chose to label them E-7's. He admits and discusses in the book that because of wheel configuration and their short stature they are often viewed more to resemble F-7's but he decided to label them E-7's due to (his words)..."side frame design and grill side molding" which he maintained was quite accurate for the E-7.
Don,
From the picture it looks like the trucks are three axle trucks (simulated?) which would support it being an E-7. Just curious, how many axles does each truck have? I have seen two axle trucks with simulated three axle side frames before. Thanks.
Quarter Gauger 48 posted:Some Real O Gauge Front Ends'...
I thought you may enjoy seeing some of these great vintage locomotives from the Danbury, CT. RR museum. When I photographed these engines in 1986, they were in operable condition. Over the past 33 years they have held up well considering what they have endured'... Grabs, spot lights, and MU hook ups and rust are the focal points'.... possible reference for detailing if you are so inclined'... In all photos taken by me'..
Ted, you could have called it: "Changing technology applied to old warhorses."
Ditch lights, HEP plugs&receptacles (the outboard smaller receptacles) and Amtrak Comms receptacles (the blue large receptacles).
Nice pics!
CAPPILOT/Ron: You have got it. In typical Marx fashion the center “axle” is just simulated. There are only 2 actual axles per truck with the center axle, bearing box, and wheel just cast into the plastic truck side frame. My Marx book mentions this conundrum... is it a 4 wheel truck which I am told would support it being an F-7 ( which one time in 1974 is what the Marx catalog called it) or is it a 6 wheel truck (even though simulated) which supports the E-7 designation.
I smile as I sit here Ron because you and I probably just had a longer conversation about it than Mr Marx!! 😄
thanks for your response
Don
Don McErlean posted:CAPPILOT/Ron: You have got it. In typical Marx fashion the center “axle” is just simulated. There are only 2 actual axles per truck with the center axle, bearing box, and wheel just cast into the plastic truck side frame. My Marx book mentions this conundrum... is it a 4 wheel truck which I am told would support it being an F-7 ( which one time in 1974 is what the Marx catalog called it) or is it a 6 wheel truck (even though simulated) which supports the E-7 designation.
I smile as I sit here Ron because you and I probably just had a longer conversation about it than Mr Marx!! 😄
thanks for your response
Don
The side panels and roof details support it being an E7:
No F-units ever had rectangular side windows. Plus the vent panel behind the cab door is unique to the E7. Granted, Marx took liberties with proportions and drives, but for a toy it is a decent representation for an E7.
Rusty
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geysergazer posted:Quarter Gauger 48 posted:Some Real O Gauge Front Ends'...
I thought you may enjoy seeing some of these great vintage locomotives from the Danbury, CT. RR museum. When I photographed these engines in 1986, they were in operable condition. Over the past 33 years they have held up well considering what they have endured'... Grabs, spot lights, and MU hook ups and rust are the focal points'.... possible reference for detailing if you are so inclined'... In all photos taken by me'..
Ted, you could have called it: "Changing technology applied to old warhorses."
Ditch lights, HEP plugs&receptacles (the outboard smaller receptacles) and Amtrak Comms receptacles (the blue large receptacles).
Nice pics!
Thanks Lew'.. I was wondering what the blue one were used for. As I opened the door and saw many, many female pins... These units are METRO North equip. Not Amtrak per say... But I'm sure Amtrak is involved as they do pull some Amtrak coaches....
Ya, I'm sure they are using the Amtrak HEP and Comms protocol so there are no problems using Amtrak coaches.
I found this website, a supplier of this stuff for (mostly) the private railroad car people:
http://www.nwrail.com/distribu...connector_index.html
I have [some] EE background and just find this stuff interesting. Utahrails.net has a nice description of HEP wiring:
geysergazer posted:Ya, I'm sure they are using the Amtrak HEP and Comms protocol so there are no problems using Amtrak coaches.
I found this website, a supplier of this stuff for (mostly) the private railroad car people:
http://www.nwrail.com/distribu...connector_index.html
I have [some] EE background and just find this stuff interesting. Utahrails.net has a nice description of HEP wiring:
I find this stuff interesting too. Been researching this stuff. I found a HEP website on a railroad in Canada.. Take a look Lew, some real beautiful FPA7s... very cool ...
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geysergazer posted:Ya, I'm sure they are using the Amtrak HEP and Comms protocol so there are no problems using Amtrak coaches.
I found this website, a supplier of this stuff for (mostly) the private railroad car people:
http://www.nwrail.com/distribu...connector_index.html
I have [some] EE background and just find this stuff interesting. Utahrails.net has a nice description of HEP wiring:
Lew, https://utahrails.net/pass/amtrak-hep.php Highly recommend this site'.. Great find""" Lots of very interesting information and easy reading history on Amtrak equipment. HEP, and car identification by numbers... Very informative.... Good find Lew'....