You getting it? How much will it be?
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@SeptaTony
"You getting it?" Uh, that would be no.
"How much will it be?" $3,499.00 
Feels like déjà vu !
Lionel has ruined what the Vision Line was supposed to be...
What a disappointment. No, I will wait for something different.
Another Big Boy, whoa, what a surprise. I'm surprised they went back to the depleting coal load with all the mechanical issues it had.
Lots of anticipation but no catsup
(for those who remember that commercial). I have one of the first generation BigBoys and I love it but I wouldn't buy more of the same thing. Vern asked "how much will it be?". You have to assume that in today's economy the MSRP will be way north of the original and the second releases. May be it will be released in the Santa Fe war bonnet or NYC Lightning stripe colors.
@superwarp1 posted:Another Big Boy, whoa, what a surprise. I'm surprised they went back to the depleting coal load with all the mechanical issues it had.
Seems that after over 100 years, Lionel still never learns. 
If this was April, I'd be wondering if this was an April fools joke!
Really?!
@Yellowstone Special posted:Seems that after over 100 years, Lionel still never learns.
If I had come to that same conclusion I would not now be part of this forum.
There' is no way that Lionel would have made it through these 122 years if it had never learned anything. Repeating mistakes will kill a business very quickly, whether in the 1920's or the 2020's.
Since it hasn't yet died in all these years my interpretation is that there are only occasional mistakes. Having said that, this Big Boy may indeed be one of them.
Mike
Always with the negative waves......Just for the record, I never figured every single release is about what I'd like/buy 
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Kinda disappointing it's a re-run. However it'll probably sell well, considering the high secondary market prices of the previous Vison Line and Legacy runs.
@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:If I had come to that same conclusion I would not now be part of this forum.
There' is no way that Lionel would have made it through these 122 years if it had never learned anything. Repeating mistakes will kill a business very quickly, whether in the 1920's or the 2020's.
Since it hasn't yet died in all these years my interpretation is that there are only occasional mistakes. Having said that, this Big Boy may indeed be one of them.
Mike
Well, then I'll rephrase that. After over 100 years in the business, Lionel has had some hits and misses.
I'm going to step out and say.... I'm thinking this is fake news.
When stuff like this happens, some observers may think it makes no sense. However, Lionel knows the marketplace better than any individual does, and if they chose to rerun and engine, it would only be because they have information that there's a demand for it. Obviously not from folks who already have it. But Lionel is not out to intentionally lose money. I'm sure they recognize that there will be some knashing of teeth by some when a re-run is done. But they've done it before. One example is the Legacy Southern Pacific Daylight. Another example was the Legacy Milwaukee Road S-3 steamers. Like the Daylights, Lionel ran that a second time several years after the first run. And the second run sold out, just like the first run.
Looks to me like Lionel should consider a new promo name for VisionLine. I say give "Tunnel VisionLine" a try.
"Tunnel VisionLine" I like that!
What run of the Big Boy will this be? 3rd? or perhaps 4th? Didn't MTH release one recently as well?
Makes little sense with so many options for them...
I think Lionel is producing the same engine over & over again simply because ppl buy them! Every big boy run has sold out and........... there are many of us that refuse to pay between $3,500.00 - $5,000.00 for the 1st vision line run. Although this run won’t be cheap, it won’t be$3,500.00, and there will be several different detail variations and time periods covered in this run. I also like the new features. Since I don’t have a single big boy. I’m in and I’ll enjoy it. Lionel gave us two newly tooled steamers last year. And a new brass hybrid in the last catalog. I think they are doing great.
The big boy is way to big for my layout and this new vision line big boy will be way to much money for me. I am not a fan of all the overhang. Even with 072 curves it still looks weird. How about Lionel doing a smaller vision line locomotive everything is huge and articulated.
My money is safe for now.
@MichRR714@MichRR714 posted:Lionel has ruined what the Vision Line was supposed to be...
It does not bother me when a company reruns something because, like Breezinup said, Lionel knows its market and these will probably sell well. What disappoints me is calling these reruns Vision Line. To me it is just a way of increasing the price for a Legacy rerun. Either retire the name or wait until a true Vision Line new design is produced to use the name again.
