Lionel 2021 catalog wishlist

@SIRT posted:

                                       Something practical?

I completely forgot about these! I know Lionel made some cars for the LCCA a few years ago, it would be great to see more produced

You might want to check the Lionel website for leaks.

Where on the site?

@Trainlover9943 posted:

Where on the site?

Search "LEGACY Steam" or "Vision GS" in the search box.

I didn't look at everything but I searched legacy steam and everything I saw was older product. What is the new stuff?

@Trainlover9943 posted:

I didn't look at everything but I searched legacy steam and everything I saw was older product. What is the new stuff?

I won't post the pictures (do not want the thread to get shutdown), but under vision GS there are some really neat ATSF "GS" pictures.

Yup. I see that. Interesting.

Looks like Lionel is finally bringing back a VL legend!

The part numbers on the 2-10-10-2 pictures are daylight GS and lark GS vision models.

If the 2-10-10-2 is coming back that’s odd they released the pictures with wrong part numbers. But would be awesome to be able to get a new run of 2-10-10-2.

I think they will be coming out with them since back in 2010 they only offered #3000 and the photos show #3008 and #3009.

Someone here already said a Lionchief J class and while I'm on board with that idea, how about some LC 2.0 versions of the gas turbine switcher/rotary snowplows? They've sort of got a start on that with those Lionel Junction starter set diesels as well as the old command control versions of the rotary plow turbines, but I'm not sure if fitting all of the LC 2.0 electronics plus a rotary plow on an engine that small is even possible.

if the 2-10-10-2s are coming back i wonder what else is coming back in this catalog hopefully a lionmaster class A and standard cab dash 8s which lionel hasn't done since the late 90s

Bring back the Veranda.

@ed h posted:

Bring back the Veranda.

i think lionel lost the tooling for the veranda

i could be wrong

The GE C40-8, B40-8 would need to be all new models that are accurate 1:48th and 1:64th scale replicas.

Andrew

@ed h posted:

Bring back the Veranda.

If you're going to do that, you might as well bring back the Acela.

@NOT LionelLLC posted:

If you're going to do that, you might as well bring back the Acela.

Two things:

1. Bringing the Acela back could very much so happen since Ryan has said they have been reworking the design.

2. Lionel may have lost the tooling to the Veranda but then again I though they lost the tooling to the PRR S1 but here we are with one being produced. It could happen but we shall see when Lionel reveals what new wonders to be hold.

@NOT LionelLLC posted:

If you're going to do that, you might as well bring back the Acela.

Stuart - You have to stop with all your wild fantasies now ...

@Patrick B posted:

.......... how about some LC 2.0 versions of the gas turbine switcher/rotary snowplows? They've sort of got a start on that with those Lionel Junction starter set diesels as well as the old command control versions of the rotary plow turbines, but I'm not sure if fitting all of the LC 2.0 electronics plus a rotary plow on an engine that small is even possible.

The latest rotary snowplows, with command control and using (for the first time) can motors, aren't old, given that they were cataloged in 2016. Therefore, it seems unlikely they will be produce more as LC2plus anytime soon. After all, they can already be run with Cab 1, Cab 1L or Cab 2 remotes. (For that matter, the older TMCC Pullmor-motored ones can as well.)

Should Lionel make LCPlus2 snowplows in the future, as far as size, it seems that if Lionel can squeeze the electronics in the Docksiders, which they're doing, it seems it should be possible to get them inside the Vulcans.

I second the request for a new run of the 2-6-6-6’s. I missed out on the last run and I’ve regretted it.

@adkmodelrailroader26 posted:

http://www.lionel.com/products...hicle-a6566-6-18484/

Something like this but with command-control would be nice.

You must have missed these! Lionel did these trucks in a bunch of different roadnames.

• Command Control equipped – able to run in Command Control Mode or in Conventional Transformer Control Mode
• Powerful maintenance-free motor
• Forward and reverse operation
• Operating headlights
• Flashing strobe light on roof
• 1:48 Scale model
• Detailed die-cast metal body and frame

@raising4daughters posted:

Could you explain what you mean by B&O passenger colors? Do you mean the more blue that's darker than the powder blue of the postwar F3s?

Lionel

@Catonsville Central Railway posted:

I just refer to it as B&O "passenger" colloquially, to differentiate with the solid blue or sunburst schemes.  I believe the Geeps were painted in this scheme when they were used for passenger and the solid blue when used for freight, but I could be wrong.  A B&O historian would have to correct me on this.

Lionel did these correct scale B & O F-3s. (Pretty cool and unique feature: the front "115" engine number just below the headlight is illuminated.)

@breezinup posted:

Lionel

Lionel did these correct scale B & O F-3s. (Pretty cool and unique feature: the front "115" engine number just below the headlight is illuminated.)

I know those are beautiful!  Almost pulled the trigger on a set, but they are much older models with TMCC and only 4 rpm sound levels.  If Lionel could just redo those exactly but with Legacy speed control and Legacy sounds, I would be one happy camper!

@Trainmaster04 posted:

Two things:

1. Bringing the Acela back could very much so happen since Ryan has said they have been reworking the design.

Considering that the new Acela is almost ready, I imagine Amtrak will have some sort of goodbye ceremony for the current Acela as they did for the AEM-7.  I imagine Lionel would love to cash in on that market when they do, especially since they have such a phenomenally detailed model, even if it had its share of technical gremlins.

But if they don’t, I still have my full Acela set I could be talked into selling for top dollar *wink, wink* when/if everyone suddenly wants to get their hands on one like they did with the UP Bush engine and the big boy.

Would like to see a scale auto rack with flat spot sounds recorded from an empty auto rack. Also more LionScale 2 bay wood chip hoppers and TOFC's  from the Weaver molds................Paul 2

@breezinup posted:

Lionel

Lionel did these correct scale B & O F-3s. (Pretty cool and unique feature: the front "115" engine number just below the headlight is illuminated.)

Now that's interesting.  To the best of my knowledge, the prototype's optional number plate under the headlight used glass bead reflectors and was not illuminated.

Rusty

I think we’ll see more ten wheelers in additional road names. More milk cars in additional road names, I’d love to see some with freight sounds (instead of the tanks). More of the reading style passenger cars as others have said.

I‘d love to see some new tooling for large PRR Steam. Q2, Decapod, or N1/2. I doubt that’s worth the tooling investment though.

Since there has been this "leak" of products of the catalog I guess the next question would be, does anyone know when the catalog will come out?

@Trainmaster04 posted:

Since there has been this "leak" of products of the catalog I guess the next question would be, does anyone know when the catalog will come out?

January 22

If the 2-10-10-2 does come back I think it would be non vision

@Rusty Traque posted:

Now that's interesting.  To the best of my knowledge, the prototype's optional number plate under the headlight used glass bead reflectors and was not illuminated.

Rusty

Not only is that to the best of your knowledge Rusty, it is a fact.  B&O and the ATSF used reflectors on the nose numbers.  Other roads that don't come to mind at the moment also followed this practice.

@Peter Araujo posted:

And let's not forget a newly tooled N&W A Class #1218

Or you send me your TMCC one for a LEGACY conversion

@2012ford posted:

January 22

Thanks!

@falconservice posted:

I wonder how difficult and expensive it would be to mass produce a Vision Line 1:48th scale model of a highway-railroad pick-up truck that has operating lights, horn sounds, powered wheels, figures, and intricate details.

Andrew

Unlikely they'd do this anytime soon, given that they've already done command control scale-size pickups with operating headlights and strobes.

@GG1 4877 posted:

Not only is that to the best of your knowledge Rusty, it is a fact.  B&O and the ATSF used reflectors on the nose numbers.  Other roads that don't come to mind at the moment also followed this practice.

That's interesting. But kudos to Lionel for making the numbers illuminated as they would appear in the reflected light mode. Certainly a nice extra-cost detail to "reflect" the prototype.

Well, here goes: Lionchief Budd car, any road name, but I'm partial to Boston and Maine.

I have very little Lionel in my collection, but I was impressed with the Amtrak 21" car I picked up.  I'd like to see the 10-6, coach, baggage and dome released in Phase III paint.  No need for a fantasy Phase III observation on the end.

How about passengers in 15 or 16 inches in length for 036 curves for the masses that don't have huge curves, in Bangor and Aroostook, Maine Central or other New England Railroads. 

@The Judge posted:

How about passengers in 15 or 16 inches in length for 036 curves for the masses that don't have huge curves, in Bangor and Aroostook, Maine Central or other New England Railroads.

i second that

plus how about some bi level commuter cars for chicago based fallen flags like CBQ and CNW that can fit O36 curves

and some midwest for 15 inch like Gulf Mobil and Ohio and Rock Island

i just hope the 2.0 gp7s get a second chance as i'm holding out for the rock island one and would love to have it in dual service as passenger and freight

and bring back alluminum cars too

They put a SOO LINE scheme on a short O gauge gondola that has yet to be applied to the O scale PS-5 52' gondola.

There needs to be a SOO LINE O scale 52' gondola.

Make sure all of the couplers are extra strong before the cars are boxed up and sent out.

Andrew

I would be in for an 'upgraded' K-line tooling sourced J1e Hudson, a PRR H10 with the taller tender and better silver paint, a revisit of the PRR M1b, a scale camelback possibly, and a Lionel Lines baby Hudson with die-cast 6-wheel 2046 tender - can be conventional, or LC 2.0 whatever.

Any small legacy steam would be considered.

@Randy_B posted:

I would be in for an 'upgraded' K-line tooling sourced J1e Hudson, a PRR H10 with the taller tender and better silver paint, a revisit of the PRR M1b, a scale camelback possibly, and a Lionel Lines baby Hudson with die-cast 6-wheel 2046 tender - can be conventional, or LC 2.0 whatever.

Any small legacy steam would be considered.

A big Yes! For aLionel Lines baby Hudson, number it 2046 as well.

@Madockawando posted:

A big Yes! For a Lionel Lines baby Hudson, number it 2046 as well.

And all black paint please if it's not too much trouble.

@Randy_B posted:

PRR H10 with the taller tender and better silver paint,

No, no, not silver! The last one had a wonderfully silver smokebox....but...it's not supposed to be silver.

It's supposed to be graphite.(a dark grey)

Prototype steamers have a mixture of graphite and linseed oil on the smoke box because if it was painted it would burn off.

Oh and how about an oxide red that is the same on the Loco and tender instead of a tender that's too bright and a cab roof that's burgundy?

The red on the k4s and m1s from years ago looked good....what happened?

Meh. I won't be buying anything anyway. That h10 was my last new purchase....fool me once.....

How about a Lionchief 2.0 773? I’d be in for one of them.

@RickO posted:

No, no, not silver! The last one had a wonderfully silver smokebox....but...it's not supposed to be silver.

It's supposed to be graphite.(a dark grey)

Prototype steamers have a mixture of graphite and linseed oil on the smoke box because if it was painted it would burn off.

Oh and how about an oxide red that is the same on the Loco and tender instead of a tender that's too bright and a cab roof that's burgundy?

The red on the k4s and m1s from years ago looked good....what happened?

Meh. I won't be buying anything anyway. That h10 was my last new purchase....fool me once.....

That's what I mean actually - no more white-silver, but the darker color we were accustomed to previously.

@yankspride4 posted:

How about a Lionchief 2.0 773? I’d be in for one of them.

Another great idea. Use the Lionel Lines road name

@Randy_B posted:

And all black paint please if it's not too much trouble.

Absolutely!!

How about some MP-54 electric commuter cars in PRR,Penn Central and Reading?

I guess the Acela is a go from what a hobby shop posted on line.

What shop?

@Bob Dixey posted:

How about some MP-54 electric commuter cars in PRR,Penn Central and Reading?

Please!

@Trainlover9943 posted:

What shop?

It was just the front cover and not on their website. I won’t mention the shop. No details were given just the front cover. It featured the Acela.

@MartyE posted:

It was just the front cover and not on their website. I won’t mention the shop.

Front cover of the catalog?

You guys have seen the cover?  

@Trainlover9943 posted:

Front cover of the catalog?

Yes. Front cover. Nothing else.

What was on the cover

@joker34 posted:

What was on the cover

@MartyE posted:

It was just the front cover and not on their website. I won’t mention the shop. No details were given just the front cover. It featured the Acela.

See above.

Long Island RR motive power in LC+ 2.0

Thanks

The same thing I always want.. A UP Big Blow Turbine

@MartyE posted:

It was just the front cover and not on their website. I won’t mention the shop. No details were given just the front cover. It featured the Acela.

was it the new acela train or the old one?

If they are going to re-issue a certain type of ATSF engine (will not say what it is to prevent the thread from being deleted)
Lionel should reissue the VisionLine 700e since a lot of us missed out on the first run

@Oscale_Trains_Lover_ posted:

If they are going to re-issue a certain type of ATSF engine (will not say what it is to prevent the thread from being deleted)
Lionel should reissue the VisionLine 700e since a lot of us missed out on the first run

That and the PRR CC2 since that certain locomotive, the 700E, and the CC2 were made around the same time.

@Trainmaster04 posted:

That and the PRR CC2 since that certain locomotive, the 700E, and the CC2 were made around the same time.

YES! I completely forgot about the CC2

Some 2-10-10-2 information in the new OGR issue on page 13.

@vash44 posted:

Some 2-10-10-2 information in the new OGR issue on page 13.

Are you able to share this information on this thread for those who don't have the issue yet?

@Trainmaster04 posted:

Are you able to share this information on this thread for those who don't have the issue yet?

The Beast Is Back!

One of Lionel’s initial Vision offerings—Santa Fe's 2-10-10-2—has returned

after more than a decade. Upgraded with today's Legacy and Bluetooth control,

this current run includes the addition of safety valve steam and selectable whistle

sets for even more fun and value. The Santa Fe built ten of these monsters

in 1911 from existing 2-10-2 locomotives, with new front engines

supplied by Baldwin. At the time, they were the largest locomotives

in the world. The distinctive turtleback tenders would serve other

locomotives until the end of steam. Loaded with stack, whistle,

blowdown, and now safety steam effects. Also includes swinging

bell, loads of added-on detail, and both Legacy and Bluetooth control. For price,

availability, and more information on this latest release of Lionel's 2-10-10-2 locomotive, visit www.lionel.com.

@vash44 posted:

The Beast Is Back!

One of Lionel’s initial Vision offerings—Santa Fe's 2-10-10-2—has returned

after more than a decade. Upgraded with today's Legacy and Bluetooth control,

this current run includes the addition of safety valve steam and selectable whistle

sets for even more fun and value. The Santa Fe built ten of these monsters

in 1911 from existing 2-10-2 locomotives, with new front engines

supplied by Baldwin. At the time, they were the largest locomotives

in the world. The distinctive turtleback tenders would serve other

locomotives until the end of steam. Loaded with stack, whistle,

blowdown, and now safety steam effects. Also includes swinging

bell, loads of added-on detail, and both Legacy and Bluetooth control. For price,

availability, and more information on this latest release of Lionel's 2-10-10-2 locomotive, visit www.lionel.com.

Thanks!

@vash44 posted:

Some 2-10-10-2 information in the new OGR issue on page 13.

Another reason to subscribe to the Digital Copy!  You can read it on an iPad while sipping coffee on your veranda.

@MartyE posted:

Another reason to subscribe to the Digital Copy!  You can read it on an iPad while sipping coffee on your veranda.

Maybe you mean sipping coffee with your Veranda ?

@ed h posted:

Maybe you mean sipping coffee with your Veranda ?

That would be silly.  Verandas don't drink coffee.

@MartyE posted:

That would be silly.  Verandas don't drink coffee.

They do if they have a mouth painted on the front.

if the acela is coming back i wonder if they are going to do the original 1999 American Flyer scheme with the pointless arrow

Someone has probably already suggested a re-release of the scale berks, or maybe a vl version of them, but I'm not sure since I skipped to the end. Anyways, I would love to see it, but they need to do a proper c&o Kanawha. They did the Virginian one in 2004 so I know they have the toolings to make a Kanawha, and I once considered purchasing the 2004 Virginian berk, but I'm holding out for a legacy one, however I'm not going to get my hopes up. This is all I'm really hoping for, and I'm interested to know yalls thoughts.

+1 on the C&O Kanawha.  I don't know why they haven't done one yet.

And I hope the Acela rumors are true.  A proper re-issue with the tilt fixed or eliminated, the IR connectors fixed or replaced with plug connectors, Legacy control, and capacitor LED lighting would be the stuff dreams are made of.  Such a spectacular model to behold.  I'm selling my current set but would honestly buy another if it were Legacy.

And I really think Lionel is missing a market by having not yet done an F45.  They have the trucks and frame, would just need a shell.  I remember when I was working at a hobby shop and we got the Athearn F45s in HO and N in.  We couldn't keep them on the shelves.

I also saw the cover for the American Flyer catalog.

@Peter Araujo posted:

I also saw the cover for the American Flyer catalog.

so there is 2 books i'm confused

@paigetrain posted:

so there is 2 books i'm confused

Just like last year, they're doing an American Flyer Catalog as well

@Peter Araujo posted:

Just like last year, they're doing an American Flyer Catalog as well

do you know what the American flyer cover looks like?

Any LC+2.0 items?

Word on the street is they're making an Asa Packer set...with stationsounds diner.  That'll be the first time that train was offered in O Gauge!  Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@PR&NJRR posted:

Word on the street is they're making an Asa Packer set...with stationsounds diner.  That'll be the first time that train was offered in O Gauge!  Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they are and they are also producing a pretty accurate Santa Fe Valley Flyer passenger set as well.

The SOO LINE GP30 finally made it into a catalog.

Andrew

@falconservice posted:

The SOO LINE GP30 finally made it into a catalog.

Andrew

Yes, nice to see that. Long time coming. In scale engines, it's been 10 years since Lionel last made a white/red Soo engine, the SD60. I passed on that due to the compressed SOO lettering. Before that, they did the SD40-2, a nice engine, but that was 19 years ago! 

My other passion says I'd  be interested in a updated Corvette set. 

Western Maryland/Chessie chop nose GP9

Scale 0-4-0T dockside switcher

Cheesie/CSX GP39 Mother and Slug yard engines

Vision line caboose with sound

Scale Metroliner Amtrak, PC, PRR

I would like to see a UP restoration version of the auxiliary water tended as used in 2019 to go with the First Run 4014 Big Boy.

@RJ I posted:

Maybe this will be the year that Lionel makes the scale Strasburg products they have been teasing for a few years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Agreed, having missed out on the 3rd Rail Sunset Mollie of a few years back which is rarely available in the used marketplace I need an authentic and detailed engine worthy of pulling the great Premiere MTH woodside passenger cars that I have in various paint schemes.

Got mine at the local train store yesterday. I am exhausted after reading through it several times already.

Saw a quick (and somewhat fuzzy) YouTube overview of the catalogue this morning.  Unless ones into freight cars, the Canadian pickings appeared to have been limited to a standard CP diesel (so a little disappointed, but will be pleasantly surprised if I missed something).  Guess I'm just waiting on volume 2 now...

Didn't notice that they did it this time, but I would have thought they would have used that magnetic "sub road names out on the tender" plate idea more extensively this time. Thought it was a pretty swell idea with lots of potential....

The O scale PS-1 40' boxcar with 8' and 6' doors need to be produced in Vietnam for the railroads:

Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern

MNS 1200 series with a 6' Superior door

Lake Superior & Ishpeming

LS&I 2224 with a 6' Youngstown door

Standard O scale gondola for

Lake Superior & Ishpeming 

LS&I 6708 on the rr-fallenflags.org site

Maybe for Volume 2, a 2-8-0 Reading Camelback.

@rdg_fan posted:

Maybe for Volume 2, a 2-8-0 Reading Camelback.

rdg fan: we have started a new catalog wish list here: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...-next-lionel-catalog