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Lionel Sets from 1970-2000

Putnam DivisionPutnam DivisionOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
We are now in the digital age. I was a PostWar kid. In between are 30 years of MPC, the Richard Kughn era and the early Lionel LLC. A lot of great sets were made that get ignored because of lack of scale detail and/or lack of sophisticated electonics. However, there are a lot of neat sets out there from the MPC era and the early RailSounds/TMCC period. I am lucky to have a few. I invite everyone to show theirs.

I will start off with the set that got me into Command Control...the 1996 NYC Geep Command Control set. A lightning stripe NYC postwar-style Geep with command control and RailSounds...with 4 postwar-style freight cars. The set included a Cab-1 remote.







What a value! It listed for $299.95. Yes, it lacks a lot of detail and yes, it is basic TMCC with only RailSounds 2....but it rounds and sounds today like it was just out of the box. in fact, I'll put the RailSounds on this engine against any more modern one! Drawbar pull is about a pound...that means 12-15 modern cars, no sweat. I like this engine so much that I got its brothers the NYC 2383 and Pennsy 2028.
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B breezinupOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Those Geeps, which Lionel produced over the course of a number of years in different road names, are known for their great sounds, which are still considered excellent today.

Lionel made gradual additions as production went on (the more recent versions added diecast fuel tanks and pilots, cab interiors with crew figures, electrocouplers, RailSounds improvements and additions [like crew talk] as those became available, etc.

These engines are about as bulletproof as you can get, and from even a short distance away it's pretty hard to tell a "scale" version Geep from these so- called traditional Geeps (which are scale sized as well, of course).

They're also fun because it's possible, and easy, to swap shells with earlier Geeps, such as MPC versions, to get additional road names, and make an easy conversion to TMCC and R/S.
ed hed hOGR Forum Member
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What a value! It listed for $299.95.


Even better, the large Lionel dealers had them priced around $229 which was an excellent price considering all the features. I still have a few of these engines, including the Canadian Pacific GP-9, the 1997 Centennial and 1998 Centennial GPs. If I recall correctly, the 1997 Centennial engine was advertised with electro-couplers but was not made with them. However, at the time you could call Lionel and they would send out an electrocoupler kit for free.
SantaFe158SantaFe158OGR Forum Member
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Originally posted by JC642:
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I will start off with the set that got me into Command Control...the 1996 NYC Geep Command Control set.



A very nice set in its day.
Want to know the very best part of owning those sets today?
Hint.. It's not just the color of the box...
Joe


As I was putting one of my tank cars away on Thursday, I noticed that same label on the box. It made me a bit happy Smile
ed hed hOGR Forum Member
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was there a such a thing as a #1250 set with the #8206 4-6-4 hudson and cars from 1970 ?


yes, actually made in 1972. The second Lionel SSS (Service Station Special Set). The 1971 and 1972 SSS
sets are quite difficult to locate with original boxes. Many Modern Era collectors are not aware of the 1971 and 1972 SSS sets, most think 1973 was the first year.

1972 SSS with set box. Note the generic type boxes used for the 1971 and 1972 sets. Just a label to identify them as SSS sets.



1971 SSS (Illinois Central GP-9)

J JC642OGR Forum Member
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No offence but the single motor f3s mpc made cant pull 10 cars the detail was horrible .. Long live postwar and legacy..



LOl, In case you haven't noticed, you;ll find very few PW, MPC or early LTI O gauge trains still operating on layouts today.
I'd imagine most of whatever survived now retired is displayed somewhere on a wall of fame. Living a static life in infamy. Smile
Joe
SL Silver LakeOGR Forum Member
One of my favorites of this time period was the device station set with the NYC GP9 led mixed train. The set had two passenger cars (one named "silver lake") and freight cars. It had two of the 6464 boxcars from the overstamp series. I have almost all of the overstamp boxcars that showed transitional paint schemes of the merger era.

The overstamp 6464s sell pretty well and are fun to collect. I have the Pacemaker/PC, the Reading/Conrail, the PC/Conrail, and the Pennsy/PC. There is also the Jersey Central/Conrail and LV/Conrail. Fun stuff.

I have and run some MPC growlers. They just need some attention after 30/40 years of sitting "appreciating" in value.
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