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Here they are guys, all 12 new boxcars and the 2 new cabooses. With new weathering  on four and new looks and road names for the rest. Notice the Red Santa Fe has silver trucks which really  stands out ! All in all, another great job and low prices from our friends  at Menards.20190912_13170720190912_13161820190912_13175520190912_13171120190912_13181820190912_13180020190912_13184120190912_13182320190912_13161320190912_13201920190912_13154920190912_13190320190912_13154320190912_13192420190912_13190820190912_13195220190912_13192920190912_13201120190912_13195720190912_13141520190912_13141120190912_13143720190912_13143320190912_13150120190912_13145520190912_13152220190912_13151720190912_131846

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Glad to see that weathering, as a concept, has invaded the near-toy end of 3RO. I won't be buying any of these cars (for various reasons), but the weathering - which I applaud as an effort - is poorly done. I see this every so often: weathering as a random event with no cause-and-effect in evidence. Just stuff thrown at the wall.

RR equipment weathers in certain ways and in certain patterns relative to the conditions and use of the equipment. There are indeed some odd events that dirty up a car or loco in a non-typical way, but mostly "stuff" drips down from above according to the laws of gravity, and physics in general, and "stuff" gets splashed up from the roadbed according to the same laws. It's really kind of predictable. It varies with service and geography. What cars carry - the lading - can play a big role (cement hoppers are always a good example of that). These weathered cars seem to have clean wheels and trucks - typically the first place that gets dirty.

Improvement would not take much.

As always great job Menard's!! Don't worry about the "rivet counters" and I am sure you don't!!! Your products continue to fill a void in the O gauge world. I don't remember anything said about your products being scale and/or real world weathering. The new Santa Fe Warbonnet boxcar will be added to my fleet, can never go wrong with anything in the Santa Fe Warbonnet paint scheme. Keep up the good work!!

Jeff

 

 

 

I assume that during a typical railroad company's existence, it had to periodically replace outmoded, outdated or broken-down freight cars with new ones that then got mixed into a consist with well-weathered cars, so that a mix of new and weathered cars in one consist was fairly typical.

Although it might not look right to the eye, wouldn't that mix of old and new be fairly prototypical ?

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

With regard to "every roadname" being offered, until returning to 3 rail in 1980's, l searched for std. gauge HO Colorado roadname rolling stock : C&S, Denver and Salt Lake, Colorado Midland, etc.  These were rare in HO, and the Great Western, with a loco on the Strasburg now hauling a lot of passengers, had a brass HO model of the loco, but no other rolling stock.  Then #90 was hauling passengers, still, in its cabooses.  That got little notice in HO, with no lettered rolling stock, remains so, and, of course, only the C&S has a few cars in three rail.  I do not expect Menards to make cars for these roads, but the above listed mfrs. didn't either.

c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

Appeal?

Because people WANT them????

c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

Sam,

I see your point and tend to agree. I really like the fact that Menards's has become a player in the O gauge market place and have bought several of their buildings. But I've mostly stayed away from the rolling stock for exactly the reasons you mention above.

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c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

Couldn't you ask the same question of Lionel, MTH and the other manufacturers - why are they producing new rolling stock if there's a glut of NOS available at train shows ? 

c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

What's the appeal?

 

They're easily and readily available during the peak toy train holiday season at any Menard's location, and at a cheap price!

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Richie C. posted:
c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

Couldn't you ask the same question of Lionel, MTH and the other manufacturers - why are they producing new rolling stock if there's a glut of NOS available at train shows ? 

Ah, yes, Richie C., every manufacturer wants a financial cut of the marketnhi, to be in on the action!

c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

First, any product that sells must have appeal (whether or not it can be put into words) to buyers and products that sell help keep the hobby alive if not growing.

Second, the last Menards house car I bought was closer to scale dimensions than most of the other/older products from K-Line, Lionel, and MTH RailKing.  It seems close to some of the Williams offerings in scale dimensions (which I also like), most notably to me in the width where, IIRC, they are close to a scale 9-1/2' whereas most of the other cars are around 8 , 8-1/2, or 9' wide.  I haven't bought a lot Menards cars but on the ones I have bought I like both the look and the feel that extra width provides.  

Third, even with the hundreds or thousands that are already out there, maybe they haven't been done in a road or paint scheme that Menards has done that appeals to me.

Fourth, every Menards car has a unique road number so you can buy more than one car and not repeat car numbers.  This is especially nice if you're doing a unit train or just like a large block of a single type of car.

Fifth, the prices are very reasonable and you get a new car with modern trucks, wheels, and couplers.  If something has been around since the 1970s and it's new in the box, maybe there's a reason it hasn't sold.  Menards products are more of a known quantity and with their great customer service there's less likely to be a hassle if there are any questions/issues/problems with the product.

Peter Gentieu    

PGentieu posted:
c.sam posted:

I really like the realistic buildings Menards has produced but fail to grasp the concept of selling new 'traditional' rolling stock in this hobby. Just look at most train shows and you will see hundreds if not thousands of Lionel, RK, Williams, and K-Line freight cars of virtually any roadname and size that has been produced since the 1970s  still new in their boxes! Many of these cars have never been on a layout, never been played with or even displayed since being produced. You can still purchase and collect new Lionel MPC cars made in America for around $10 ea if you look - cheaper in bulk!

What is the appeal for a Menards freight car please?

First, any product that sells must have appeal (whether or not it can be put into words) to buyers and products that sell help keep the hobby alive if not growing.

Second, the last Menards house car I bought was closer to scale dimensions than most of the other/older products from K-Line, Lionel, and MTH RailKing.  It seems close to some of the Williams offerings in scale dimensions (which I also like), most notably to me in the width where, IIRC, they are close to a scale 9-1/2' whereas most of the other cars are around 8 , 8-1/2, or 9' wide.  I haven't bought a lot Menards cars but on the ones I have bought I like both the look and the feel that extra width provides.  

Third, even with the hundreds or thousands that are already out there, maybe they haven't been done in a road or paint scheme that Menards has done that appeals to me.

Fourth, every Menards car has a unique road number so you can buy more than one car and not repeat car numbers.  This is especially nice if you're doing a unit train or just like a large block of a single type of car.

Fifth, the prices are very reasonable and you get a new car with modern trucks, wheels, and couplers.  If something has been around since the 1970s and it's new in the box, maybe there's a reason it hasn't sold.  Menards products are more of a known quantity and with their great customer service there's less likely to be a hassle if there are any questions/issues/problems with the product.

Peter Gentieu    

Thanks for kind words !

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