Peter Witts in Philadelphia

Peter Witts built as such for Philadelphia had a rounded front end . They were single ended cars and there were 535 of them. The earlier built " Nearside " series of cars were modified into a Peter Witt configuration after they were built. You are probably correct about the timing of operation on the Woodland Avenue route.

Thanks LIRR Steamer.

Were  they built by Brill ?

Al W.

Hi Al

Yes . All built ,535 of them By Brill in Philadelphia from 1923 through 1926.

Brooklyn's fleet was about the same size, 535 but they were all built as double enders also with round ends .

Another interesting group of double end Peter Witt cars are the ones Dallas purchased.  They also had round ends and were later converted to one man cars with the center doors removed.

Phil Randall

Being from Baltimore, if the  car doesn't look like the WBB model, it "ain't" a

Peter Witt. Nevertheless, Washington, DC did have some double ended (and round) Witts.

Saw a shot on TV from WW2 of hundreds of round end Witts in Philadelphia.

but the Witts I remember on Woodland Ave. looked like Baltimore's except for

the color.

At the beginning of the depression Philadelphia Rapid Transit had plans for a new series of trolleys. These would have been 9000s and have been built to a design similar to the single-end Brill master unit.  A plan was published in Trolley Talk number 100 for December 1973.  The biggest differences to the WBB Peter Witt are one piece side windows, a visor over the windshield making it look smaller and a full width destination sign.  Because of Philadelphia Rapid Transit's bankruptcy during the Depression the plans were not carried out.  Some information from Surface Cars of Philadelphia.

The Baltimore 6100s had a very unusual run number / destination sign over the windshield which is probably the reason Bachmann didn't duplicate it.