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Once in a while, the San Francisco Cable Cars lose the cable on an incline and need a push up the hill. I've heard that sometimes the cable is greased up too much causing the clamp to slip. I wonder if that is why the cable car didn't re-attach to the cable on the flat section, and instead had to be pushed up the second hill.

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mwb posted:

Trolley and Motorman on C&E Line in Erie Pa - looks like it's actually the negative, too.

This is not a negative print.  However, this print was done backwards which means that the negative was inserted in the enlarger incorrectly.  The car number should read 2018.  I wonder if this was a local street car or one that went west towards Girard, PA and Conneaut, OH. 

Allegheny48 posted:
mwb posted:

Trolley and Motorman on C&E Line in Erie Pa - looks like it's actually the negative, too.

This is not a negative print.  However, this print was done backwards which means that the negative was inserted in the enlarger incorrectly.  The car number should read 2018.  I wonder if this was a local street car or one that went west towards Girard, PA and Conneaut, OH. 

Easily fixed!  

TROLLEY AND MOTORMAN ON C & E TROLLEY LINE ERIE PA rs-L

Mitch 

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Allegheny48 posted:
mwb posted:

Trolley and Motorman on C&E Line in Erie Pa - looks like it's actually the negative, too.

This is not a negative print.  However, this print was done backwards which means that the negative was inserted in the enlarger incorrectly.  The car number should read 2018.  I wonder if this was a local street car or one that went west towards Girard, PA and Conneaut, OH. 

How coincidental that this photo should reappear in 2018!

Bill

WftTrains posted:
Allegheny48 posted:
mwb posted:

Trolley and Motorman on C&E Line in Erie Pa - looks like it's actually the negative, too.

This is not a negative print.  However, this print was done backwards which means that the negative was inserted in the enlarger incorrectly.  The car number should read 2018.  I wonder if this was a local street car or one that went west towards Girard, PA and Conneaut, OH. 

How coincidental that this photo should reappear in 2018!

Bill

I saved it for years & years, 

Here is a photo of a traction cart on college hill in Easton. The tram served Easton Pennsylvania and Phillipsburg NJ before the depression when it closed. Apartently one of the original tram karts was found and is now being restored in Phillipsburg by the Railroads historians (mind you NOT the NYS&W T&HS) and are getting underway with it. 

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Kawasakis and Suzukis.  My 1985 GS550E with a Ca. 1980-81 K-whacker LRV on Island Avenue just up from the loop.   Taken around 1987.  Good times.    (Yep, I posted the same picture on ADVRIDER if anyone just happens to be on this forum and on there also).

Got a few more from that day but all of the slides and prints are all buried.  Sorry for the crappy quality, it's a cell phone picture of one of the prints

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Bobby Ogage posted:

International Railway Company Trolley #23 at Buffalo, New York on February 22, 1948

International Railway Company Trolley #23 at Buffalo, New York on February 22, 1948

I think Buffalo was the first city to use the Near-Side car design.  

Philadelphia was the biggest user, with 1,500 of them running by 1915: 

In later years, most of the Nearsides were converted to center exit: 

In addition to Buffalo and Philadelphia, Nearsides ran in Chicago and Atlantic City.

Mitch 

 

briansilvermustang posted:

                                       Mitch, where ARE you...

Odd trolley poles on that critter! 

Bobby Ogage posted:

M. Mitchel,

Please explain what a "nearside" trolley car is.

Sure!  Take a trolley like this:

Cars like this would board from the rear platform.  So, the procedure at an intersection would be for the car to cross, then stop with the rear platform at the corner (the 'far side' across the street).   

The Nearside car, on the other hand, is designed to load from the front:  

So, it would stop before the intersection and not block it while loading. 

Before the Nearsides were converted to center exit cars, entry and exit were done via the front doors, which made things a tad awkward...

Mitch

jim pastorius posted:

I see a "Flying Fraction" PCC car crossing the Smithfield st. bridge in Pgh. Rode that a few times !!

Hi Jim:

I believe that route 77/54 Northside-Carrick via Bloomfield was the original “Flying Fraction” made famous by KDKA radio personality Rege Cordic back in the 1950’s.  See the attached pdf file.  That route didn’t cross the Smithfield Street Bridge as it crossed the Mon on the 22nd Street Bridge on its way from Carrick to Oakland and then also crossed the Allegheny on the 16th Street Bridge on its way from Oakland to the North Side.  As a kid living in Carrick I rode that route many times to baseball games at Forbes Field and to go to the Carnegie Museum or other attractions in Oakland.  This route was discontinued in 1965. 

However, Bobby’s photo you are referring to above is a car on route 42/38 Mt. Lebanon/Beechview.  This route was a much “newer” route created by combining parts of the former 42 Dormont and 38 Mt. Lebanon routes.  This was one of the last surviving PAT streetcar routes and likely the only one that remained which had a fractional route number so I can see why it may have been considered a later version “Flying Fraction”.

Bill

Member, Pennsylvania Trolley Museum

 

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briansilvermustang posted:

Is this car a subway or El unit? It looks fascinating. Where did it operate in revenue service?

I'm just seeing this now. Nice!  In looking at the doors, I see that there are no steps.  That suggests to me that it normally ran on lowered tracks that required a platform for the passengers.  I'll be interested to learn more as well.  With that adjustable rod handing down on the side but then with a window-less monitor-style roof, it looks like some sort of transitional type. But I'm only guessing.  By the way, does that engine in the background say "Burlington"?

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Bobby Ogage posted:
briansilvermustang posted:

Is this car a subway or El unit? It looks fascinating. Where did it operate in revenue service?

Hello

It is a Chicago Elevated System Wooden EL Motor Car -- built new in 1905-6 just as shown.  It is an Ex-Northwestern Elevated Company wood car #1797 and is seen running under its own power for the first time in decades at the Illinois Railway Museum on June 30, 2012. The car is painted in the Chicago Rapid Transit Company's brown and orange paint scheme, introduced in 1939. Car # 1797 wears a variation of the paint scheme (repainted to be true to its original application to the car, using photographs for reference) to fit the car's architecture; some variances may also result from the car possibly being the first car so repainted by CRT, making it a prototype for the design. The Photo is by Tim Peters.

These cars could MU with all other classes of Enclosed end and Open Platform types of Chicago Wooden  EL Cars and ran mainly on the large elevated lines system in the Chicago City and Suburban areas

Regards - Joe F

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Joseph Frank posted:

These cars could MU with all other classes of Enclosed end and Open Platform types of Chicago Wooden  EL Cars and ran mainly on the large elevated lines system in the Chicago City and Suburban areas

If memory serves, the poles were used in areas where the tracks were at grade, making third rail operation more hazardous... 

Mitch

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