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I've been posting here in various forums for a while but I finally decided to have a thread dedicated to my On30 layout and its updates.

The layout is in a 11X10 foot room and takes up a lot of it. I started in 2014 and had the scenery for the most part looking like I wanted it within just over 2 years.

The layout has been in OGR three times so far:

  1. A reader photo in the August/September 2018 issue
  2. A layout profile article in the February/March 2019 issue
  3. A locomotive review for the Bachmann On30 Baldwin 'trench' engine in the April/March 2020 issue

it's been in several other magazines as well over the past 3 years.

I've been told I made more progress in 2 years than many make in 20. The before/after shot is 3 years difference to the day, the upper being the first day the of track laying:

I was never that big on scenery before, but I found I have a feel for it. I love adding realistic scenic elements and scratch building structures:

The layout theme is of a fictional branch line of the East Tennessee & Western North Carolina RR that ran from Elizabethton, TN across the Watauga River, along Stoney Creek, up into the valley northeast of the real-life mainline that turned southeast toward Cranberry, NC. The layout takes place in late summer 1943.

Maybe I'm the only person in the hobby with an actual Army RR Operating unit, complete with insignia? B Co, 796th ROB takes up two sidings on the layout:

So relax trackside and watch the parade of mostly Baldwin ten-wheelers as they go back and forth between Buladeen and Hunter, Tennessee:

More, soon! I'll still also post in the "what have you done on your layout" section as well...

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I'm very happy with my scratch built store which I built during the start of the pandemic when everything was closed down (it even has 'built during pandemic of 2020)'written underneath the base).

The gas station/store is a representation of the J Grindstaff store in Sadie, TN, but more influenced by the store in Carter. First, I had to remove the old structure (a Woodland Scenics pre-built structure I was never 100% happy with), then change the ground around it as the new store would be smaller. The new structure has a full interior and figures, detailed down to the right magazines on the counter for the time the layout takes place, and the FDR portrait on the wall. As it has a much smaller footprint than the original structure in that spot, so I needed to change the gravel area around it. Previously I'd used much too coarse gravel there. I stripped it down with a caulking knife to the base wood and paint, smeared white glue all over the area, then laid in much finer gravel around. I later added things like oil stains and the like. As the glue was drying, I created a set of ruts in the gravel, and it dried like that, alongside the store. I was happy with that result (though it's now hard to see with the ground clutter).

I wanted a 'concrete' base for the gas pump and the front roof supports, so I had painted a section of styrene, and scraped equal dividing lines to show segmented concrete. With the paint already dried, I added small lines of glue along those seams/cracks and put ground foam on that to show grass popping up between the segments and around the outside edge. I also added figures inside while I was waiting for the scenery glue to dry. The first structure on the layout here was close to the road, and this one is much further back, leaving a larger area on which I can park wheeled vehicles. The only thing I didn't like afterward was realizing the outhouse is now much closer than it'd be in real life.

The structure has a full interior with lighting.

Last weekend, I got this gas pump off an eBay vendor. It's 1/43 scale so it's a little bigger than it should be, but it's an excellent rendition of a pre-war gravity fed pump. Texaco was the brand I was looking for as the store I used for inspiration was that brand and it had two of these pumps (one red and other yellow for ethyl gas, though that wasn't very common by the 1940s, so it's just the one pump for now).

20 minutes of weathering with washes and dry-brushing got the desired result of a well-used but cared for gas pump which would be about just over 20 years old by this timeframe:

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I'm very happy with the results.

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I am seriously considering doing a modern day Tourist layout in On30 as I still have a bunch of On30 just sitting on the shelves. I have about 24x16 available and your layout gives me inspiration Please post more! Also, what turntables are you using?

Thanks for the kind words. I have two Peco turntables (one is their On30 one, the other their OO, but both work just fine for On30, I just wanted each to look a little different. I re-planked the bridge deck with real wood on one and someday will likely do the same on the other, tossing out the handrails on each).

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As for photos, I love being as creative as I can with shots on the layout:

I also not only love details, but historically-correct ones. I make a point of only including that which I am aware to be correct for the Blue Ridge Mountains area during WW2...

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Cool. really cool, impressive!  I especially like the US Army ROB.  Though I didn't belong to the ROB at Ft. Eustus, Va,, I did serve in Germany with the Transportation Corps in the 49th Transport Group, with HQ in Mannheim.  I was assigned to the Bundeswehr Verkehrskommandantur Ansbach.  We were involved with US Army /German Army convoy clearance.  We "moved millions" of GIs to and from the military training areas, mostly to take part in the spring and autumn war game exercises.  Despite the fact I was a pencil pusher, I did have to take periodic rifle practice with the M14 assigned me.  I'd be interested in purchasing a cloth patch for the 796 ROB if you do decide to produce any!

The late Lee Riley, a prominent employee of Bachmann, was instrumental in convincing the well known manufacturer to begin production of On30 model trains at affordable prices.  It worked too!  I really do miss visiting with Lee when he'd be present at the International Toy Fair in Nuremberg, Germany, each year.  He'd give me lots of insider information that hadn't been released to the public, knowing I'd keep my big Texas trap shut!  I did too!

In the 80s on leave from my then employer, Deutsche Bundesbahn, I went with my mother and step-dad on a trip to North Carolina, where they had a trailer house in Johnson City that had been purchased from a co-worker of my step-dad.  I talked them into a day trip so I could visit the East Tennessee Railroad where they were operating with some Alco RS32 Diesel road switchers.  The employees were very accomodating and your typically friendly Carolina folks.  I got the grand tour of the office and shop building.

Though I'm a onetime Colorado railfan from Dallas, TX, I must agree with you, in that the Rocky Mountain narrow gauge has been blown out of proportion.  OK, no complaints from this long time member of the Peanut Gallery.  It sells, and remember, all the manufacturers and their employees like to enjoy three hots and a cot, just like most human beings do.  However, I have developed an interest in the East Broad Top, as well as the Strasburg Rail Road, and remain a big fan of the Pennsylvania Railroad too.  I'm a fall guy for the GG1!  I do remain loyal to my home base having switch the huck finn out of box cars for Cotton Belt as well as Santa Fe in the D/FW area in the 60s and 70s.

About me: visit www.railhopeamerica.com  The Railroad Evangelistic Assn. prints All Aboard, a magazine not just for railroaders, but for anyone interested in the Holy Bible and trains as well.  The REA was founded in the 1930s by an Atlantic Coast Line locomotive engineer.  I'm also big on the ACL and SAL too, but that's another story altogether!  Anyway, the REA links will enable anyone to read All Aboard for free and in the Summer 2015 issue, on page eight and nine, editior Joe Spooner (a former Burlington Northern employee) printed an artical about yours truly.

Item: All Aboard is seeking short articals from model railroaders as it now has expanded to include a model railroad page or tow in each issue.

I look forward to your updates and thanks for sharing your layout with OGR railroaders.

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The late Lee Riley, a prominent employee of Bachmann, was instrumental in convincing the well known manufacturer to begin production of On30 model trains at affordable prices.  It worked too!  I really do miss visiting with Lee when he'd be present at the International Toy Fair in Nuremberg, Germany, each year.

In the 80s on leave from my then employer, Deutsche Bundesbahn, I went with my mother and step-dad on a trip to North Carolina, where they had a trailer house in Johnson City that had been purchased from a co-worker of my step-dad.  I talked them into a day trip so I could visit the East Tennessee Railroad where they were operating with some Alco RS32 Diesel road switchers.  The employees were very accomodating and your typically friendly Carolina folks.  I got the grand tour of the office and shop building.

Joe, I so badly wish I could have met Lee Riley. He's single-handedly responsible for getting me back into the hobby. I'd left in total disgust after a series of insane experiences with a modular group in my hometown in Florida. Years later, Riley's Baldwin ten-wheelers came out in On30, the very prototype I'd always wanted in a scale smaller than G (I'd had one of those, too but it was too big for a layout). Were it not for him, I might never have gotten back into the hobby and met a lot of great people!

As for the RS-32s, I have a photo of one of them going past the Porter Fireless 0-6-0 at the North American rayon mill at Elizabethton. My parents grew up just east of there so we'd go up there every year to visit. the place is like a second home to me.

Thanks for the kind words, everyone!

" .....I'd left in total disgust after a series of insane experiences with a modular group in my hometown in Florida......"

I hope my friends here will pardon this comment on a website that is supposed to be free of negative stuff. I fell this is relevant for the future of groups connected with the hobby.

I live in a town of almost 1/2 million. There were two different societies focused on Orchid growing, one of which was founded in the early 50s. The other started in the early 80s because of alcohol fueled hostilities in the first society. The second finally folded because of an obnoxious woman who ran everyone off. Alcohol caused the first society to succumb.

There is another society, a musical one, barely holding on because it is run by a covert narcissist.

My point? In today's world, we are all picky about where we spend our free time. Most of us will avoid functions that create more stress than the "real world."

Many thanks!!!!

Nice layout! The vignettes on your layout remind of scenes from the tv show "The Waltons."

In a way, that ironic as they filmed the show in California (split between the Warner Brothers lot and Hollywood Hills), but I get the point and appreciate the compliment. The original concept of the show was in the area of Schuyler, Virginia, more toward the Chesapeake area than the Blue Ridge.

Thank you all for the kind words!

The ET&WNC (and Stoney Creek) is in the extreme northeast corner of Tennessee, take place in Carter County, just east of Elizabethton. There was a real railroad there, which was yanked out around 1932. In my concept, my fictional layout line (the Stoney Creek Southern) competed with the real one and drove it out of business, then flopped during the depression, when the ET&WNC bought them out (soon regretting so, once the big hurricane in 1940 washed a lot of stuff away).

I've long had two dreams throughout my life that involve railroads;

  • I would wake up one morning in my childhood home in Florida to the sound of a train (we were miles from the nearest tracks, even logging line in the past) and see a train going down our road, right on the opposite side of the road from the house, with current at the time rolling stock and a black/yellow Seaboard GP on the head end (yes, it was that detailed of a dream)
  • The ET&WNC had a branch line on Stoney Creek, and on visits to the area as a kid, my brother, cousin and I would discover it was all still there, slowly rusting/rotting away

I think the latter was based on our seeing the Doe River Gorge tracks when I was about 10 or 11, which looked like they had only been used last a few years previously (which surprised me to find many years later that the operation there did run into the mod 70s, we had no clue at that time).

This layout was something I'd felt the drive to create for most of my life, but only once Bachmann made the ET&WNC ten-wheelers in On30 was it attainable (as there was no way I could scratch build one to my standards).

I know plenty of people in the hobby want the layout first, then go looking a concept (or just don't have a concept at all, and just run whatever they want). That make no sense to me at all. In my own case, it was always about what I've done. Sure, there are other concepts I would have liked, but it was always going to be this.

I placed my gopro camera (which I have hardly ever used since I got it on our European cruise in 2018) inside the Grindstaff store, put the roof on and used the remote shutter on the app.

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Not the best shots ever, but it's neat to see how a O scale person would see it normally inside.

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For a while, I'd wanted more correct pilots for my ten wheelers and only today realized bachmann gives you the earlier one in the extra parts bag.

So, I painted and weathered three of them and installed them all tonight.

In order is today, the 30s on a real ones and how the models used to look...

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Just got this 3D print of a ET&WNC wood hoppers car yesterday, from Western Rails.

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I am very happy with how it turned out, I only have to put a brake wheel and grab irons on before paint/decals/weathering. I already have the couplers and trucks.

It's got a lot of heft and is much better detailed than the wood kits I built last year...

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Someone asked me the other day what I would model if I didn't model a fictional branchline of the ET&WNC.

Easy, I told him; the real main line of the same railroad!

I've had some time to think about this and along the back wall where the barrel factory flat is, I'd have a massive industrial flat showing the front of one of the massive twin rayon mills just west of downtown Elizabethton, TN:

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In front of which would be the Bemberg depot, which was renamed "Port Rayon" during WW2 due to the German name of the depot (both rayon mills were built by German companies in the 1920s).

There was a water tower there near where the commuter trains would stop during WW2. The mills were just to the right of this shot beyond that low berm across Elk Avenue:

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The depot is still around even though the tracks are gone today, yanked out after this shot was taken (and the Wal-Mart which now sits on the Bermberg plant site can just be seen to the right in the background):

It'd be a challenge to build a model of this as it was a masonry structure, but it would look sweet in O scale if done accurately.

The area where the track goes to the center of the room would be the yard lead at Johnson City, TN and the other end along the wall with the window would be downtown Elizabethton (as the tracks actually ran right through the center of town).

The idea of modeling streets, brick buildings and the like... I gotta admit there are times I wish I'd had this idea first.

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New 3D print hopper, just waiting for the decals to dry before I start weathering. I just drilled and tapped the bolsters and coupler pockets.
I numbered it 36 for the year my parents were each born. That number car was in use to the end of the railroad in 1950.

Number 44 above shows what it should look like when it's done.

I plan on getting more of these 3D prints.

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Here's something no visitor to the layout has ever noticed, a Jeep and GMC 2.5 ton truck in the tree line in the back of the area behind the tracks which run behind the general store and the cornfield.

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The Jeep is 1:48 scale and the truck is 1:50 scale, each a little too small in scale for everything else on the layout.

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Now that I got two more ET&WNC hoppers (3D prints form Western Rails) on the way and will have eight very soon, I’m going to go back and re-structure the concept of operations on the layout.

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Before it was a simple “swapping cars” deal, but now what I want to do is to start off with different cars, but a coal train comes in and each car goes somewhere (three of them to the Army area, eventually I’ll have a coaling area for them).

The second train will be mixed, but now I’m going to put a lot of thought into which car goes where.

I really doubt anyone running on another guy’s layout cares where a specific car goes, but for those who do, the new concept will make more sense. This means I’ll run my first-ever solo op session and take notes along the way.

Most of all, I’d always wanted some hopper cars and it’s great now that they’ll be as ubiquitous on the layout as they were on the real railroad.

Good to know on that Samsung. I'm wanting to start a youtube channel and I'm trying to figure out what camera I need.

I gotta say I am really impressed and inspired now that I have had some time to comb through the thread. Your scenery is off the charts!! I think the most mind blowing thing for me is how the full scale world melts away in your photos and videos. I can't get over those 3D printed cars too. Very impressive!

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Good to know on that Samsung. I'm wanting to start a youtube channel and I'm trying to figure out what camera I need.

I gotta say I am really impressed and inspired now that I have had some time to comb through the thread. Your scenery is off the charts!! I think the most mind blowing thing for me is how the full scale world melts away in your photos and videos. I can't get over those 3D printed cars too. Very impressive!

Thanks for the kind words, Bill.

I always say unless you model a desert, you can never have too many trees (or details). I really think one of the reasons a lot of people model the D&RGW is so they don't have to put down much green grass or trees. I spent some time every year of my youth in that area, so I knew how lush the scenery is there. Frankly, I don't think I've nailed the look of it for how I remember it (I haven't been back there in far too long, sadly) but I keep adding more scenic elements where I think they make sense.

I have a flickr.com page in the signature line, with a lot of photos (if you work from the back you can see the progression of the scenery as well). I had a website but the server recently (and suddenly) declared you have to pay $30/month, so I'm in the process of starting over in Blogspot with updates of what I'm doing at the time.

As for the cell, it doesn't take as good still photos than my previous cell phone did, but it takes really good video. So much so that I shot all the video for my trainmasters.tv segment on it and I think it all turned out very well.

I really enjoy operations when each car has a specific destination.    I used a computer program I wrote to route mine and every switchlist is different within the parameters of what types of cars go to what locations.

I don't find it as interesting to just swap car type for car type without paying attention to the numbers.

I also know a guy who used only one switchlist on his layout.    He had worked it out in detail for each siding and car and used it every time.   He had 4-5 jobs, and he kept track of which job you had and assigned  you a different one next time.    And he operated a few times a  year, so it might be over a  year for you to repeat.    However, I thought it was not philosophically right.    Each to his own way to have fun.

A couple of days ago, I found a photo from someone else’s layout (I forgot which website I found this on and couldn’t find it again when looking just now), and the builder had copied something I did. I did an article for the 2018 On30 Annual on taking an old tender from a Bachmann On30 2-6-0 and turning it into a water car. This guy had done everything I did, decking the top of the tender in plastic to look like sheet metal, even copying the same type of reinforcements (which I did from my imagination) and the same type of water hatch (a D&RGW K27 part I found at a hobby shop) I used. He added some pumps and valves, but clearly he used my article as a guide. I thought that was neat as its proof my work has influenced someone!

Mine:

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And later, another guy confirmed he copied my concept almost 100%:

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A friend of mine told me last night that he was able to get two sets of Bachmann hoppers painted in EBT "old colors" for me. What a surprise as I have not seen any of those hoppers at shows for many years.

Yeah, Bachmann has been confusing with their offerings. First, they utterly flood the market with On30 stuff, then stop making some of in altogether. Now, some of the cars people thought would never be tough to find are so rare that some people question if they ever existed.

I was lucky, in that when I decided to make this layout, I found what Bachmann had that I could to represent ET&WNC stuff, and bought a bunch of them. I modified, decalled, and weathered them all to my taste then put them back into the boxes for the day when they could be used.

So glad I did that now, as many of them are difficult to find at any prices now.

As for my hoppers, those are 3D prints from Western Rails. They were wooden hoppers, something no other RR had. The ET&WNC never had steel hoppers on their 3-foot line.

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A couple of days ago, I found a photo from someone else’s layout (I forgot which website I found this on and couldn’t find it again when looking just now), and the builder had copied something I did. I did an article for the 2018 On30 Annual on taking an old tender from a Bachmann On30 2-6-0 and turning it into a water car. This guy had done everything I did, decking the top of the tender in plastic to look like sheet metal, even copying the same type of reinforcements (which I did from my imagination) and the same type of water hatch (a D&RGW K27 part I found at a hobby shop) I used. He added some pumps and valves, but clearly he used my article as a guide. I thought that was neat as its proof my work has influenced someone!

Mine:

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Fantastic modeling!

Just finished weathering the hoppers.

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I found that the coal pads that come with Bachmann gondolas fit perfectly into these hoppers if you notch the underside of each end and break off those tabs.

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Now, there are three of these 3D print hoppers on the layout. With the 5 other On30IMA laser kits, I have eight...

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What loco is that with the red trim on your Flickr page?

That'll be one of the three Bachmann On30 4-6-0s in the black/red ET&WNC paint scheme from 1943 to the end of operations in 1950.

I changed the builder plates and number plates on them, put real coal in the tenders, added crews, oil cans and shovels, and weathered them. I love watching them wheel around.

One still exists (#12), running at Tweetsie RR at Blowing Rock, NC.

A good guy with a HOn3 layout that does an excellent job recreating ET&WNC scenes made this postcard from a photo on his layout looking just like the real ones.

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He mailed one to me, and it just went into my binder with all the original postcards and paperwork I've collected from the real railroad.

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I have enjoyed reading through your thread and admiring your exquisite modeling and photography. Even though I am currently a tinplate guy, if I were to get back into scale modeling, On30 would be my choice, having limited space and budget.

I have a few Bachmann On30 pieces from years ago. I always admired their shays and climaxes too. You said they are not making a lot of their On30 offerings any more? I bought mine more than 15 years ago- maybe closer to 20, I think around the time they came out. For the money, they were hard to beat.

I just finished working on my new switch lists. Now every other train coming off the mainline interchange is a coal train, and I think it'll make more sense to operating crews, whenever the day comes when I can have people come over to operate.

I'm going to run all 4 sessions to be sure it works, soon.

@Will posted:

It's a complete system, power supply and controller it looks like? And enough power for the entire layout including lights, or do you power that separately?

Yes, that system runs the trains, but it needs a lot of wiring and plugs.

The structure lights are all lit from the Woodland Scenics plug and play system.

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I was just playing around with my cell phone at lunch time today...

At the Buladeen, TN depot, everyone is getting ready for the 12:15 from Elizabethton:

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At the "Baker Company" motor pool, the CO'd command car really needs a washing after being taken on some back roads:

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Across the tracks from the Unaka company factory, an older man comes to reflect at the memorial to the War Between the States. Though Tennessee was a Confederate state officially, they sent almost an equal number of units to fight for the Union:

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That first one could pass as an old photograph without even trying.

Thanks. I love getting shots from 'eye level' and then messing around with some photo software to make them look like someone snapped a shot with a Speed Graphic camera, and it's now faded over time:

I never liked soft lighting on a layout, as you see that in real life only on a very cloudy day. I use LED cans, so none are overlapping and in shots it looks more like direct sunlight. As anyone who's watched a movie shot indoors that represents the outside can tell you, the lighting is easy to spot when it doesn't look like sunshine.

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Thanks. I love getting shots from 'eye level' and then messing around with some photo software to make them look like someone snapped a shot with a Speed Graphic camera, and it's now faded over time:

I never liked soft lighting on a layout, as you see that in real life only on a very cloudy day. I use LED cans, so none are overlapping and in shots it looks more like direct sunlight. As anyone who's watched a movie shot indoors that represents the outside can tell you, the lighting is easy to spot when it doesn't look like sunshine.

The effect is phenomenal! Eye level shots are some of the most exciting in my opinion.

Lighting is the one thing I'm most intimidated by on my layout. Thankfully I have some time before I have to worry about it. But I feel I have to get it done before I start doing scenery.

I have just been invited to join a local round-robin operating group, all really good guys I'm familiar with (more than one MMR and most have been published lots of times) and I'm honored to be asked to join them.
As I got the COVID shot over a month ago, I'm far more open to the idea of taking part in op sessions than I certainly would have been before that (which is to say NOT at all before then).
It'll be so nice to eventually have people over for ops eventually. The last people who came over for ops was the OlyOps event in October 2019...

For my recently-acquired ET&WNC spike (recovered from just before milepost 13 between Valley Forge and the covered Deck Bridge near Hampton), I bought this framed tile thing at Hobby Lobby yesterday.
Today, I had to get a carbide bit to drill through it, and I then used steel wire to wire it in place.

I them made my own label for it and printed it on photo paper.

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Here it is in place:

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A lot of very fine modelling, in 1/48 scale; But how many 2ft 6in. Prototypes actually existed in the USA??? Plenty of notable 2footers, and of course the Colorado 3 footers and the numerous lumber lines, but 2'6" (On30?

Here in Australia, we have 2ft ( sugar cane) 3'6" ( major state lines) and one or two 2'6" ( Puffing Billy, Victoria);

Other State and National lines are 4'8.5", and 5'3".( 2 adjoining states only).

Is the use of On30 in the US a matter of convenience/compromise, as to availability of models off the shelf...I remember when Great On3 layouts were almost all scratch built, with high quality Brass Locos; are modelers getting too easy in Track and Rolling Stock sourcing, and accepting what the Big Trainmakers sell them???

E G WWI Trench Engine in 0n30, when it should be in 0n600mm, or On24/2???

Just my observations in searching for Models which can be converted to QGR 1880s Baldwin Imports, with new chassis in correct On42.

Or in the case of Trench Engines, correct On24. On handlaid track ( 12.7mm, .500 inch)...cane tramways.

DocAV Brisbane Australia.

Is the use of On30 in the US a matter of convenience/compromise, as to availability of models off the shelf...I remember when Great On3 layouts were almost all scratch built, with high quality Brass Locos; are modelers getting too easy in Track and Rolling Stock sourcing, and accepting what the Big Trainmakers sell them???

I guess I have to ask, how many exact scale steam engines have you scratchbuilt?

I have done NONE. Had I decided to scratch build this, to my standard, I'd still be working on the first one (and I would have wanted three):

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I got back into the hobby because Bachmann decided to make THE prototype I love, in a workable scale.

Sure, I'd have rathered they made them for the same price in On3, but I know my strengths and weaknesses, especially for a hobby I was just getting back into after over 30 years.

If that makes me lazy, well, that's really my business. Tell that to the editors of EVERY major magazine in the hobby, who have all run my work...

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This afternoon, I found a small piece of granite in the back yard, it was terraced but very small.
I couldn't resist cutting a hole for it in an embankment near a turntable and putting it in. I then placed some foliage around it and I really like how it turned out. I doubt a visitor to the layout would even notice it, though...

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I know that you know the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette is running a series on ET & WNC locomotives, now up to 4-6-0 #9, but, just in case .... I, too, want ready-to-run On3 locos and track, and have held off on a narrow gauge branch because of that, in spite of gauges being an arbitrary invention tied to Roman chariots, for l do not have time to scratch build everything.

I know that you know the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette is running a series on ET & WNC locomotives, now up to 4-6-0 #9, but, just in case ....

Yep, I had an article in one of those issues that also had one of Johnny's articles.

But as for Roman chariot/wagon gauge later being related to railroad standard gauge, that's actually something people repeat with little real basis in history.

Tonight I was working on some new photo angles, and I like how this turned out...

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@p51 posted:

I've been posting here in various forums for a while but I finally decided to have a thread dedicated to my On30 layout and its updates.

The layout is in a 11X10 foot room and takes up a lot of it. I started in 2014 and had the scenery for the most part looking like I wanted it within just over 2 years.

The layout has been in OGR three times so far:

  1. A reader photo in the August/September 2018 issue
  2. A layout profile article in the February/March 2019 issue
  3. A locomotive review for the Bachmann On30 Baldwin 'trench' engine in the April/March 2020 issue

it's been in several other magazines as well over the past 3 years.

I've been told I made more progress in 2 years than many make in 20. The before/after shot is 3 years difference to the day, the upper being the first day the of track laying:

I was never that big on scenery before, but I found I have a feel for it. I love adding realistic scenic elements and scratch building structures:

The layout theme is of a fictional branch line of the East Tennessee & Western North Carolina RR that ran from Elizabethton, TN across the Watauga River, along Stoney Creek, up into the valley northeast of the real-life mainline that turned southeast toward Cranberry, NC. The layout takes place in late summer 1943.

Maybe I'm the only person in the hobby with an actual Army RR Operating unit, complete with insignia? B Co, 796th ROB takes up two sidings on the layout:

So relax trackside and watch the parade of mostly Baldwin ten-wheelers as they go back and forth between Buladeen and Hunter, Tennessee:

More, soon! I'll still also post in the "what have you done on your layout" section as well...

Looking GOOD!

I was just visiting my parents in Florida (they're well into their 80s, with all the issues you'd expect) and I think I've found my next project.

My father built a blacksmith shop in the early 60s. I want to build an O scale version as the real structure isn't very large and could easily fit into my layout's theme.

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Nothing but wood, metal roofing which I already have, and a small amount of plastic for the door hinges. That's about as easy of a project as you can get form a real-world structure. Beats me where I'd place it, but as soon as things calm down here (my wife was dealing with a nightmare of a kitchen remodel while I was in Florida), I'll get rolling on this.

I really only had time to get these shots as it was a very full several days I was down there. Dad's memory isn't all that great but he was adamant that it was 10X30 feet not including the overhead to one side. So figuring out the other dimensions should be pretty easy knowing that.

I wouldn't weather exactly as you see as in Tennessee weather you wouldn't see the same colors there as you see here after 50+ years in Florida weather, but I'm sure I could make a decent scale replica of this.

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A mixed train meets a commuter train at the water tower near Hunter, TN...

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Meanwhile, Robert Nidiffer digs up some ash near the ET&WNC right of way, near the interchange with the main line to Johnson City.

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Residents of Stoney Creek often wonder what he does with the buckets of ash he walks off with, but with wartime rationing in effect, it's one of the few things that is easy to obtain...

Paul Estep (first name taken from my last living uncle who sadly passed away recently) is taking a rest next to the Hunter, TN depot. Boots, his beloved hound, is taking up the entrance to the small depot, requiring everyone else wait outside for the last evening train to Elizabethton.

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Meanwhile down near Sadie, Mister Grindstaff is waiting to be able to close up for the evening

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P51 - That is some fine modeling.  I want to ask, if you are building a blacksmith shop, I have a Western Scale Models craftsman type kit I built that is no longer in use that might come in handy to you.  It has all the equipment and a lot of tools, finely painted I might add, even a blacksmith in gear.  The original footprint is 4 1/2” x 8” - only mention that to say everything fits with plenty of room to spare so it should fit it into your smaller sized building.  I still have the building but you might want to match the original design.  It’s pretty complete.  I’m thinking if you have all the parts, already painted, it would save you a heap of time.  I’m not using it so would be glad if you could on your layout.  Just thought I would reach out.  I spose we could make a deal for a couple bucks and I could ship it to you.  I have good pics and can email them to you or I can post them here.  Hope you are interested.

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I'm currently planning for a self-published book of photos of my layout as if it were a real line. It'll be similar in tone as the article I did for the narrow Gauge gazette, as if I found notes and photos from a photographer, made in the 1940s.
The final chapter will have my layout track plan and notes presented as if I made it based on the 'found' photos, and will mostly be verbiage. I'm currently working on plans for some sketches of the imagined (but never modelled) sections of the line that exist only in my own imagination. They'll be used as 'found drawings from the area from the 40s' made by the same person who took the photos (a fictional WW2 war correspondent named after my own grandfather, a character that made it into a DC comics WW2-themed comic book a few years ago as thanks for my assistance on the historical research).
With everything else I have going on, it might be a while. I need to do the sketches of the non-modelled sections of the layout and scenes I wish I'd had room to re-created, based on real ET&WNC locations.
I'm really looking forward to this as it'll include photos nobody other than myself and a few close friends have seen before.

I've been asked several times to explain my fictional railway unit insignia. So, I created the 'official' history of the unit's time along Stoney Creek:

“The Stump Jumpers”
A history of the 796th Railway Operating Battalion, US Army
Compiled by the US Army Center of Military History, Fort McNair

The 796th Railway Operating Battalion (ROB) was established on paper by the US Army Transportation Command at Fort Eustis, Virginia on November 30, 1942. From the formation of the unit, the Clinchfield Railroad wanted to sponsor a ROB and they were asked to assist in the creation of this battalion. They provided a cadre of experienced railroaders, with the expectation of eventually running railroads in formerly occupied nations once they were liberated by Allied forces. Most railroaders in this unit throughout the war were formerly from the Clinchfield.
By January of 1943, the advance party of the ROB headquarters were in Johnson City, Tennessee to scout locations for their elements. Battalion HQ and most of the companies were set up near the narrow-gauge East Tennessee & Western North Carolina (ET&WNC) railroad shops and yard in Johnson City. As most of the effort for the 796th was devoted to running the Stoney Creek Branch, B Company was set up in various locations along that line and set up its company headquarters along a former logging spur near Winner, Tennessee.
Conditions long the line were spartan and supplies were long in coming. A dismantled Nissen hut which had been rejected during testing in Virginia was assembled along the spur and an ET&WNC shack was taken over as a little shop for anything needing hand tools. A former Stoney Creek Southern refrigerated car along the spur was taken over for storage. Perforated steel airfield “Marston matting” was placed in a square for a parking area for the unit’s heavier vehicles.
A trio of 2-6-2 tank engine ‘trench’ locomotives from the Great War were re-gauged at the ET&WNC shops and immediately put to work along the line, along with some narrow-gauge Army cars that arrived unannounced on the backs of some flat cars in the Johnson City yard. All this equipment was used in various locations along the line. One was set aside as a permanent switcher for the B Company, another dedicated to use around the battalion HQ.
Right away, track crews of the 796th went to work on the track which in most cases hadn’t been touched by crews in almost twenty years. In a few weeks, Army railroaders with 55-pound rail and newly cut ties, had the right of way was looking better than the locals said it had when it was new.
By the spring of 1943, soldier/railroaders of the 796th were out of shelter tents for good and housed in larger squad tents and Quonset huts that had arrived with additional heavy wheeled vehicles. Working closely with the ET&WNC, the 796th ran several freight and passenger and freight trains throughout the entire line. It was common to see soldier railroaders crewing trains anywhere between Johnson City to either Buladeen, Tennessee or Cranberry, North Carolina.
By summer of 1943, operations were well underway for tactical training and familiarity with European and Asian prototype equipment for eventual deployment overseas. A handful of European rolling stock captured in Africa was brought to Stoney Creek for the 796th to work with. A new Whitcomb 50-tonner diesel-electric locomotive was also brought in, though it proved to be unpopular with crews and somewhat unreliable.
In anticipation of the invasion of Europe during the spring of 1944, the 796th was ordered to prepare for movement to the New York port of Embarkation and eventual movement to the European Theater of Operations, where they later served with great distinction. The 796th ended the war at Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany and the unit was disbanded in 1946.
The Battalion insignia is described as a ‘trench’ engine jumping over a stump, upon a shield of Transportation Corps yellow. The insignia was unofficially created by a member of HQ Company, who later said he had designed it after the initial review of the Stoney Creek right of way. During the review, one officer was heard to say, “Boys, looks like we’ll be jumping stumps for the rest of the war.”

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@BillYo414 posted:

Awesome! This was an unexpected element of model railroading that I really enjoy. Making up the backstory has been a lot of fun for me and I'm glad you have a back story for your railroad.

I'm not sure I have it posted here already, but here's my complete fictional history of the Stoney Creek Southern/ET&WNC Stoney Creek branch and locations in a modern-day context. I wrote this before I built the layout as a firm guide on how I was going to handle everything:

The railroad was started in 1898 and by 1900, cut East by Northeast from Elizabethton, paralleling old state 91 on the south side of the Watauga River. It crossed the Watauga at the bend in the river just east of the modern Lynn Valley Road bridge. Paralleling the current highway 91, it ran up into the hills where logging traffic kept the railroad going into the depression era. The railroad got as far as Dry Branch where locomotives were turned around and log cars were loaded. Originally chartered as the Stoney Creek RR, the line added 'Southern' to the end of the name to avoid confusion with state tax collectors over a competing logging line which ran mostly on the south side of the creek. There were various station stops once the railroad crossed the Watauga River, notably at stops such as Hunter, Winner, Sadie and Buladeen. The line was chartered to go as far as Shady Valley, but never got that far.

From the bridge crossing and interchange to the end of the line, the railroad was just a little bit over 12 miles in length. Turntables were put in at each end of the line to turn around the 4-4-0s and logging engines seen on the line after a bad grade crossing accident when a locomotive was facing the opposite direction of travel.

The line saw very little passenger traffic but the logging provided revenue until the 1930s. By 1936, trains were running only once a day, if that. Drowning in red ink, the Stoney Creek Southern offered a buyout of stock to the parent company of the East Tennessee & Western North Carolina RR. By the fall of that year, SCS-marked rolling stock started to vanish and ET&WNC equipment started running up the valley. Although a separate corporate entity into the WW2 years, the SCS was in effect another branch of the 'Tweetsie'.

The third storm of the 1940 hurricane season (they weren't named at this time) caused much flooding in the region and washed out the SCS's Howe truss bridge across the Watauga. The ET&WNC filed for abandonment soon afterward, citing declining traffic and the cost of rebuilding the bridge. The ICC ruled against the ET&WNC once they reviewed the current condition of the rest of the line. The Watauga River bridge was the primary damage to the line, which saw surprisingly little damage from flooding along Stoney Creek as the line was built well above the level of the creek in most spots. Only a short section near the Speedwell was washed out and a review of revenues showed a lack of interest in running mixed trains as opposed to a lack of customers, most notably the logging loadout near the end of track and the large barrel component factory midway along the line. Several sections of rail were brought out of Boone when the Linville River Railway was abandoned. The ICC strongly pushed for use of the roadbed of the recently-abandoned Virginia and Southwestern RR (later owned by the Southern Railway) where it crossed the river. However, the railroad was rebuilt where it was. This remains the only known case of a standard-gauge railroad being abandoned in favor of a narrow-gauge common carrier in American history. ET&WNC crews would often point out the remaining abandoned SRR trackage and joke with traveling soldiers and newcomers to the valley that, "we even outlasted the big railroads!" Still, the line continued to struggle from lack of operational interest by parent ET&WNC.

Pearl Harbor changed all that.

By late 1941, the Army had already considered placing an infantry training camp somewhere in the Shady Valley area, but the lack of good roads prevented this. By the spring of 1943, the Army placed a Railway Operating Battalion into the valley with the specific mission to rebuild the aging SCS mainline (by now referred to the Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC). This was for the shared purpose of training Army forces in rebuilding damaged railroads for the future liberation of Axis-held nations and also to provide a good transportation hub into the valley for a projected training camp for the Army ground forces. New 55-pound rail was laid and new ballast brought in for the main line before the Summer of 1942.

ET&WNC locomotive # 14, originally designated to go to the White Pass and Yukon RR in Alaska along with # 10, was instead headed into the Valley near its home rails instead for Army use. Many soldier-railroaders who cut their teeth on the ET&WNCs ten-wheelers went on to run trains on the White Pass & Yukon in Alaska as well as meter-gauge rail lines in Africa, Europe and Asia.

The turntables were still being used but were no longer as useful as the shorter locomotives they were made for were no longer around. Turning a 4-6-0 on either of them was a balancing act with only an inch or two to spare on each end that none of the crews enjoyed doing. By the spring of 1943, the SCS had been rebuilt into a line the locals could be proud of. The tracks were still weed-covered in the summer months and the sidings weren't exactly to any Class I railroad standard, but the track was in better condition than it had ever been.

Commuter trains heading for the rayon mills in Elizabethton provided hundreds of skilled workers for needed defense work. Soldiers used the Stoney Creek branch to transport various loads of weapons, munitions, vehicles and supplies. The 3-foot line into the valley had never seen such traffic before, especially now that gas rationing had rendered civilian motor traffic all but useless without available gasoline.

It is now late summer in 1943. The line hauls mixed freight, cord wood, military traffic and passenger trains for the mills almost round-the-clock. The Army is also using the line for defense purposes. Soldiers are often seen coming in and out of the valley, further contributing to the local wartime economy.

This is the high-water-mark for the narrow gauge along Stoney Creek.

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Well Lee, it looks like in addition to being a great modeler and photographer, you can add author to your resume.  I really enjoy seeing your work and I also enjoyed the stories.

Thanks, Don. 'Author' is a title a got many years ago. I couldn't count the number of magazine articles I've gotten published over the years, about a dozen of them in model train magazines in the last 3 years...

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I've decided to make shoulder patches for my fictional army railway unit, and am working with a vendor right now. They'll be 3 inches tall, which was very common for a unit patch:

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Once I have them I'll make them available for anyone who might want one. I'll also include a full fictional history booklet for the unit.

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I have placed the order for some of the 796th ROB patches and they should be here next week. I'm trying to figure out how much to sell them for, but let me know if you're interest in one:
They will be 3 inches high.
I'm quite sure these will be the only military railway unit patches in the hobby.

The patches are finally here and ready to go!
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I only made one run (and not a great deal of them), so once they're gone, that's IT, for what must be the only model railroad fictional Army railroad unit patches ever made.
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Each will come with a history of the (fictional) 796th Railway Operating Battalion.
They're 3 inches tall and have the non-merrowed edges that are correct for US patches in WW2.
$9.00 each, postpaid WITHIN THE US ONLY
The easiest way is to pay via pay pal
That's the only online way I'll accept payment. If you want to pay via the US mail, email me about that.

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The story has long been told and is known by all the locals:
One fall morning, the revenuers and some deputies for the local Sherriff came to bust up the still for the Richardsons and Ensors. They pulled up in their cars at the Grindstaff store at the base of Hurley Hollow at Sadie, Tennessee. Knee-deep in the Great Depression, most of the locals were toiling in the fields and apparently paid them little mind.
The old men who always seemed to hang around the store watched in silence until their rifles and shotguns came out of the trunks of their cars. The old men started snickering and immediately knew what was going to happen.
"I wouldn't go up there looking for those boys," the men with badges were warned, "They's all gone across the water." The old men, of course, were referring to the Great War in France. They had all served in the trenches and the locals knew that those lessons had not gone unheeded.
The rifles and shotguns were loaded in silence, and off the men with the oversized badges went, up into the hills.
Over an hour passed and the old men suddenly heard the staccato echoes of rifle fire. Lot of it. As quickly as it started, it ceased.
An hour after that, the men with the badges came back, all limping and all injured in some way. The old men noticed that none had serious wounds, which they all immediately agreed was intentional. Those boys up in the hollow had learned where to shoot someone without killing them as they'd had plenty of experience against Germans in the trenches of France just over a dozen years before.
That was just over a decade ago. the moonshine stills are mostly quiet now. You can't get the 'fixings' for them now with wartime rationing on. All the young men are off across the water again, this time for a war across both oceans. Once that gets straightened out, the old men sitting in front of Grindstaff store declare, they'll be right back at it.



The law hasn't come up here looking for moonshine stills since that day they tangled with those Great War veterans. Sometimes the highway patrol comes up the valley, but nobody is worried to see men with badges. Everyone assumes they'll get right back at it once this current war is over.

I have WW2 Jeeps on the layout, I think at least 4 of them on the layout normally at any one time:

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One is hidden in the trees in a far background; no visitors have noticed it yet. It's a 1/48 scale Ford GPW (yes, I CAN tell the difference between a Ford and a Willys Jeep even at a distance so long as I can see the front end well) with a Solido 1/50 scale CCKW GMC 2 1/2 ton truck.

Yes, I have a REAL one; a 1944 Willys MB:
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This is why the Jeeps on my layout have to be correct, with proper markings for a stateside unit.
On Saturday, I took the MB out for the first drive around town since right before the pandemic started:
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Just as the pandemic started rolling (with the first lockdowns and outbreaks occurring in my state), the Jeep's fuel pump had leaks and the battery had issues once I did it's annual 'spring check' before the show season, and never got back to it as all the shows and events to which I'd drive it were cancelled for a very long time.
I'm a second generation WW2 Jeep owner, as my Dad's first car was a 1942 Ford GPW. I have two snapshots of it. Grandpa sold it out form under Dad when Dad went into the USAF in the late 50s. I'd love to know if it still exists somewhere but the serial number is lost to the family.
Now, the question might be asked; I've developed a very detailed history for the fictional 796th Railway Operating Battalion on the layout, so why not put those markings on my Jeep? That thought HAS crossed my mind but I have decided to get new markings for the public relations section of the 12th Army Group HQ, which was responsible for the transportation of civilian war correspondents (another interest of mine) from the Hotel Scribe in Paris to any place in the European Theater of Operations which had something of note going on.
I'm also going to replace the hood markings with the serial number for the Jeep personally issued by 5th Army to cartoonist Bill Mauldin. That should happen at some point this summer before the show season ends.

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I'll soon need to make sure everything is cleaned and dusted off where it needs it, as it'll be on the layout tours for the 2022 National Narrow Gauge Convention in September...

I was going to get a shaving brush to do the dusting, but my father over the phone suggested a soft paintbrush (as that's what he uses to dust off the larger scale civil war artillery models he's made). So, I went down to the art supply store and got one, which was much cheaper, about $2.50.

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I'm equally excited and worried about these layout visits, as I've never done anything like this before. I'm of course worried about having someone break or swipe something, but also worried that people will drive all the way to the second furthest layout from the venue, see that the layout is pretty small, then gripe that it wasn't worth the trip.

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I have WW2 Jeeps on the layout, I think at least 4 of them on the layout normally at any one time:

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One is hidden in the trees in a far background; no visitors have noticed it yet. It's a 1/48 scale Ford GPW (yes, I CAN tell the difference between a Ford and a Willys Jeep even at a distance so long as I can see the front end well) with a Solido 1/50 scale CCKW GMC 2 1/2 ton truck.

Yes, I have a REAL one; a 1944 Willys MB:
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This is why the Jeeps on my layout have to be correct, with proper markings for a stateside unit.
On Saturday, I took the MB out for the first drive around town since right before the pandemic started:
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Just as the pandemic started rolling (with the first lockdowns and outbreaks occurring in my state), the Jeep's fuel pump had leaks and the battery had issues once I did it's annual 'spring check' before the show season, and never got back to it as all the shows and events to which I'd drive it were cancelled for a very long time.
I'm a second generation WW2 Jeep owner, as my Dad's first car was a 1942 Ford GPW. I have two snapshots of it. Grandpa sold it out form under Dad when Dad went into the USAF in the late 50s. I'd love to know if it still exists somewhere but the serial number is lost to the family.
Now, the question might be asked; I've developed a very detailed history for the fictional 796th Railway Operating Battalion on the layout, so why not put those markings on my Jeep? That thought HAS crossed my mind but I have decided to get new markings for the public relations section of the 12th Army Group HQ, which was responsible for the transportation of civilian war correspondents (another interest of mine) from the Hotel Scribe in Paris to any place in the European Theater of Operations which had something of note going on.
I'm also going to replace the hood markings with the serial number for the Jeep personally issued by 5th Army to cartoonist Bill Mauldin. That should happen at some point this summer before the show season ends.

P51 that is a great looking jeep, back in my day we had the M151A1 and M151A2, they put roll bars on them always wanted to get my hands on one, they took the roll bars off and they went to the range for weapons qual. for the USAF and the US Army. Very nice!

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P51 that is a great looking jeep, back in my day we had the M151A1 and M151A2, they put roll bars on them always wanted to get my hands on one, they took the roll bars off and they went to the range for weapons qual. for the USAF and the US Army. Very nice!

I served after the Army had long before gotten rid of the Ford MUTT vehicles you describe; some Marine units had a few with full roll cages into the 90s.

When I show it at shows (it's been down for most of the summer due to brake issues that hopefully will be fixed by this weekend) or have it stopped on a drive, it never fails that some cold war vet will come up and say they drove one just like it.

The only similarities between a MB/GPW from WW2 and the 151 series is that it had a somewhat similar silhouette. It's like someone who once drove a VW Karman Ghia saying they actually drove a Porsche 911...

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The National Narrow Gauge Convention officially ended Sunday, but there were tours scheduled for me and a few other layouts yesterday morning. Once the last visitor left after 2PM yesterday, I was DONE and had a great time. The only thing I was slightly disappointed at was losing in the model photo competition to someone who submitted three D&RGW themed photos and took all three prizes, but I already knew that for many of the attendees of these conventions, it’s ALL about the Rio Grande stuff and nothing else.
As for my own tours, I set up a table at the front door, manned by my friend Robert Scott, the best qualified to talk about the layout aside from myself. I had a double-sided flyer about the layout for future reference:


Inside the room, I didn’t see one look of disappointment (I thought I would as I know many people want to just see the biggest layouts they can).


My tours were for Thursday and Monday (yes, Labor Day). The last day, I was asked to have tours the morning after the official event was over so that anyone driving south could swing by on the way home. Oddly, several of the visitors weren’t doing that and were instead heading back to Tacoma afterward.

Though I wasn’t available for tours on Saturday, I was asked by some VIPs to come by and check things out. I was more than happy to oblige, so Johnny Graybeal (ET&WNC historian and author), George Riley (White River Publications) and Chris Lane (editor of the On30 Annual) came by. As for Johnny and Chris, I consider them to be THE two people outside my own family who’d best understand what I was trying to accomplish with my layout. I couldn’t have been happier to have them look things over, so naturally I had to take a photo to confirm they’d been there!


More photos are here from the venue, including several of the contest entries here:
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I just got this in the mail today, a piece of siding off ET&WNC caboose # 505. It was removed as part of the restoration effort at the Avery County museum in Newland, NC and sent to me by the gentleman who restored the caboose:


I swear I was cackling to myself with joy from the mailbox once I realized what was inside the envelope!

And here's my own model of this caboose, made from a Deerfield River Laser kit, sitting atop part of the real thing:

I also got a piece of siding off boxcar 434 recently. Yes, they're going on the wall of the layout room!

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I got ANOTHER piece of ET&WNC boxcar 434 today!

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A guy who visited the layout last month told me about the pieces that got sold at last years narrow gauge convention and he had a piece he wanted to send to me because the layout is that theme. I didn’t really think he’d go through with it and here comes a box today. It’s a cut rectangle almost exactly like the piece of the caboose fascia. Maybe I’ll put both in one large frame. I’m not sure yet exactly how I’ll display them but they’re going on the wall for sure!

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When we had our house built in 2002, one IRONCLAD condition I had was one small bedroom would be mine, for my collections of various stuff and book cases for reference books.

Since then, my wife has tried countless times to use the room for all kinds of other things. I can count the number of times I've put my foot down with her on both hands and with fingers to spare. But the room was a brick wall through which her demands never passed.

Fast forward to the pandemic, when we were told we'd be permanently working from home. I have about a decade to go and my wife a few years less as she started there about 4 years before me. We have another spare bedroom from where I've been working since. She's been working at a desk in the living room and she's never liked that. I offered to switch, but she didn't want that.

She's a middle aged woman. Anyone familiar with that knows how there's no way I could change her mind.

She started demanding my work computer goes into the layout room. The foot came down as it made no sense, as there was NO room for that. The closet was filled with my stuff and nowhere else to put it but a shed out back. She said I could move stuff to the shed, and that's taken place. I removed the doors to the closet for curtains.

So starting this week, I'll be in the layout room more than ever before. These are angles you never see in my posts...

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The stuff on hangers to the left will be back a little once I put more of that stuff in containers.

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From aa WWII Army S2 ... that IS cool! I would so love to have that on my wall.

How about this? It's from a Plymouth DDT-series four-wheel diesel switcher. Someone painted it in the past but it's either steel or iron. PM me if you're interested as it's outside the scope of my collecting, even though this is a very rare plate:

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I got ANOTHER piece of ET&WNC boxcar 434 today!

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It’s a cut rectangle almost exactly like the piece of the caboose fascia.

Maybe I’ll put both in one large frame. I’m not sure yet exactly how I’ll display them but they’re going on the wall for sure!

I put both these pieces of fascia into a frame, which went up right before Halloween.

This is what you see as you enter the room:

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This is what it looked like before the frame went on. I printed these photos of the real cars and glued them to the backing. I then drilled shallow holes and ran wood screws through the back to secure the pieces into place:

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I work from home and I'm working from the train room starting today,  with the computer in the closet for that room. If I ever mount the video camera I've been issued, THIS is what it'd see.

Lee, Looks like a great office!   You lucky guy!!   Hope you are able to take an occasional break and get some work done!!   I reference your job work!!!

Cheers, Dave

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@mike g. posted:

Lee that is an Amazing photo! How did you get such dark smoke?

Thanks, Mike.

I usually shoot greater than one minute exposures, so I can add all kinds of real-time effects. The smoke is a cone covered in cotton and spray painted black. I hovered it over the stack for about 45 seconds or so.

I talk more about such things in this NMRA video: https://youtu.be/flMlzCbfxW8

I also shot this last night:

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I was reading a thread about another model railroader who was considered to be an artist who got into the hobby, and someone commented on how few actual artists are in the hobby itself.

Well, I think I might be one of them. I don't draw nearly as much as I used to because I just don't have the time to devote to it and all the other things I need to do.

Maybe you could better call me an illustrator than an artist, but I used to do stuff like this all the time:

I tried breaking into comic books in my youth and oddly got a letter stating they liked a concept I had for a WW2 comic book about a B-17 bomber crew, about 2 years after I'd submitted something to them (and I'd forgotten about it by then).

Their timing stunk, as I was going to become an Army officer a week later. Knowing now what I do about how bad that pays, I'm glad I didn't pursue that any further.

Over the years, I've been asked to design insignia for the military and related government projects. This was my favorite; done for a team I was with at Space Camp. I actually had patches made of this:

There was a time I was experimenting with different art techniques, this was a hybrid digital and ink drawing, back when almost nobody was doing things like this:

I am also a published cartoonist/. This is one of several I did for a UK magazine devoted to historical re-enacting (based on something I did with my own WW2 Jeep on several occasions):

I'm putting together a clinic for the NMRA event in Tacoma in May, and will preview it to the Olympia group next month, about military operations on model railroads. It'll be based on the article I did on the subject for OGR last year.

I decided to include a photo of myself outfitted in a historically plausible uniform of the Battalion Commanding Officer of the fictional 796th Railway Operating Battalion, into one of my slides. Everything is correct for 1943.

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I'm putting together a clinic for the NMRA event in Tacoma in May, and will preview it to the Olympia group next month, about military operations on model railroads. It'll be based on the article I did on the subject for OGR last year.

I decided to include a photo of myself outfitted in a historically plausible uniform of the Battalion Commanding Officer of the fictional 796th Railway Operating Battalion, into one of my slides. Everything is correct for 1943.

Whiteback

waaaaay behind the line's   But a good representation

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I'm doing a clinic for a group in Olympia, WA tonight, which will be on Zoom. It'll be a presentation on military railroads, with much of the same info for the OGR article I wrote that ran in the October/November issue.

Since the mid-Nineteenth Century, the use of railroads by armies have helped win wars all over the world.

Peaking in WW2, the US Military had a massive network of railroad operations and ran trains everywhere they had troops.

Lee Bishop will present a program discussing the history of military railroad operations with an emphasis on the WW2 era. This will also cover how military railway operations can be used on any layout.

Lee will show photos historical photos and model photos from his own On30 layout and go into detail on what is likely the first-ever fictional Railway Operation unit represented within the hobby.

Time: Feb 10, 2023 07:00 PM Pacific Time:

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The Army RR clinic went well, I think. I got nothing but kudos on it, anyway.

Last night, I started the process of turning a Bachmann On30 2-6-0 tender into a water tank. I'd had the platform for it a while back, and I decided I need to get the tank done in anticipation of the 4th region NMRA convention in May.

I'm using the 'oil tank' top from one of their ten wheelers, cut down with a brass K27 tender water hatch installed to look very similar to the water car I made out of another such tender before the pandemic. On the side is a mixture of the angle from a water tank and the valve and swivel nozzle from a water column kit, both white metal from old kits found recently. On the wood platform I already have for it, it should line up perfectly with my trench engine. The nozzle will be on the opposite side from the layout viewers, the the end of nozzle folded against the tender should be just visible when it's all together.

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I'll also add a drain valve on the side facing the viewers as well as some grab irons on the back of the shell to gain access to the deck as needed.

Don't pay attention to the colors. I stripped the markings off the tender shell, and shall paint it black with a single (faded) loco number on the side and back.

I changed the water tank just a little. First, I moved the tank to where the drain hung over the end. I then placed a barrel underneath that spot and put a ladder adjacent to it. I then placed a bunch of Scenic Express super turf under the platform to represent where no people would tread and then likely affect of water dripping there over time.

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Coincidences can be so odd sometimes.
A friend of mine got stacks of paperwork from a friend, from a guy in the 40s who wrote to railroads asking for timetables. Included was a letter from the ET&WNC which mentioned a specific timetable. Turns out, I had one of those! It's one of only three original ET&WNC timetables I have.
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Thanks, Rich!

I hadn't done one of these update videos since 2020, but that's the last time I made a substantial change (at the start of the pandemic when nobody was going anywhere here) by adding a new store and some new rolling stock.
The next update, I guess, will be once I swap out one of the scratchbuilt water towers for a 3D print one of the ET&WNC tower at the Bemberg depot. I just need to figure out which one has to go, once the 3D print has been painted and weathered and details added for the chains and weights...
When I was planning a layout themed for the narrow gauge ET&WNC, I knew i couldn't do justice to the real locations, so I went with a fictional branch line, a railroad that ran near the real line and was bought out by the "Tweetsie" before WW2.
Early in the process, I wrote a detailed history of this fictional branch line and I adhered strongly to it in all aspects of planning and execution. If something wasn't explainable under this concept, out it went.
Everything has a history.  Take this water tower for example:
The Stoney Creek Southern, the company which owned this line before the Tweetsie bought it out, had a few aging 4-4-0s. When the ET&WNC brought in their ten-wheelers, out came the torches.
Here we are, in the late summer of 1943.
When the men of the 796th Railway Operating Battalion (a fictional unit, I wrote the history of that, too), they found number 3 sitting rusting away, where it'd last been used as a backup. The soldier/railroaders hoped to get it running again but found the flues and cylinders in terrible shape, along with a collapsed dry pipe. Once word came that three former WW1 'trench' engines would be regauged at the shops in Johnson City, out came the torches.
There's a low gondola filled with the rods, a few drivers and other parts. There are some wheels and axles still sitting in the weeds from #s 2 and 3, waiting to be lifted onto a car once a crane shows ups. In this timeframe, there are very few metal items rusting away, as everything has gone off to wartime scrap drives. There are even rumors that the civil war cannon barrel at the war memorial nearby will be melted down for shell casings.
The tender for #3 was in halfway decent shape and the soldiers needed a water tank.  They badly wanted the water car hauled on a platform, but the ET&WNC still had use for it. So, some metal patches were riveted in place along with a metal plate to cover the top.
They had no paint and little time, so they used the remains of a water column and quickly erected a platform from materials left over from a bridge they had just completed near Carter, TN. It worked just fine for Army # 5069.
The only other remains of the SCS's 4-4-0s is the former tender from #2, which was turned into a water tank in 1936, after the locomotive was involved in a nasty grade-crossing accident near Speedwell. It was one of the last pieces of equipment that was lettered for the SCS
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I just came home from the NMRA 4th region convention. It was a nice event, I gave a presentation on military railroad operations for model railroads.

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I also won third place overall for the photo contest. They combined the real and model photos and mine was the only model photo to place.

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@p51 posted:

I just came home from the NMRA 4th region convention. It was a nice event, I gave a presentation on military railroad operations for model railroads.

I also won third place overall for the photo contest. They combined the real and model photos and mine was the only model photo to place.
It would have scored 1st had they done a separate model category, but I'm happy anyway.

Congrats, Lee! Your modeling and creativity is superb!

@Khayden93 posted:

Would definitely buy that photo as a print if you ever released prints.

It never crossed my mind anyone would want to pay for a print of one of my photos. In all humility, I know I'm not a bad photographer, but I'd never seen anyone try to sell their shots. But then again, I miscalculated interest in the patches I'd made for my fictional army railroad unit (which sold out in less than a week), so maybe there is interest beyond yourself (and thanks for the offer to buy one, by the way, that meant a great deal to me).

I do plan on putting together a self-published book about my layout within a year or so, and if/when I do, I'll shill the heck out of it everywhere I can.

But prints? Hmmm. You've given my something to think of.

I recently acquired this Custom Dioramics resin M1934 squad tent off eBay. I'd never seen one before and though I could say I wish I could get more, I only have room for one anyway.

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My plan is to mount it on a board with strings to represent the needed ropes and blend in the scenery around it when it's done.

They still making/selling those tents? I will have to check it out. Could probably use about 8-10 of them.

I wish they were. Their site only has them in 1/35 scale. The odd thing is I can't find any record online showing they ever made them in 1/48, but I assure you I have one in the box with their label on it!

If I find any more, I'll let you know right away.

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It's been a bad couple of weeks for me and I'm just in a place where I can post about it.
My parents were both born in 1936, and well into their 30s when I was born. They had all the types of issues you expect from people past their mid-80s.
Dad got sick, went to the hospital, got COVID along the way (the hospital and the assisted living place are pointing at each other as to how he got it) and from those complications, he passed away on June 6. I find that date ironic as I've always been into military history and June 6 will never again be mainly the anniversary of the Normandy Landings in 1944..
I DO NOT want a bunch of responses to this or platitudes. I've got more of that than I could ever use at this point.
Dad was not only a great man (kind, funny, and the smartest person I've ever known), he was finest craftsman. In the 60s, he built a Civil War cannon (a M1841 6-pounder) that we re-enacted with into the 1990s.
Other than the barrel (the only thing he couldn't cast), he made every single piece of it, and anything that could be bronze, he made it as such. He couldn't bring himself to paint it after making those wheels.
He also built several cannon models, and this 1/6 scale James Rifle appeared in Finescale Modeler from this series of photos I took of it.
As for how this factors into my layout, Dad's last gun barrel is on my layout. I wanted a memorial on my layout to that unpleasantness in the 1860s (some Southerners call it, "The War of Northern Aggression,
but East Tennessee was quite pro-Union during that timeframe, something I bet they're proud of in a PC-centric world). He said he only needed to know what kind of gun barrel and scale I wanted. As I know the types, I said I wanted a 12-pounder 'Napoleon' in 1/48 scale, and it showed up in the mail about a week or so later. I jokingly said he didn't drill the vent at the back, which would be smaller than a tiny fraction of the diameter of a human hair. He thought that response was funny.
I made the pedestal, and I still can't bring myself to weather it as it'd look (all such bronze barrels outside are oxidized in green unless someone polishes them regularly).
I just wish he'd been able to see the layout. I miss you, Dad.
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