Within the last two days the screen on my iMac started a slight twitch going up and then down every 2-3 seconds. This just happens on the ORG website only. Any ideas as to why this occurs?
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Try adding or disabling any ad blocker software.
What web browser are you using ?
I use firefox on my macs , If they get too slow I have to reboot them.
It has been doing it to me as well!
Me too, on a Windows XP machine, hardwired. Annoying.
totrainyard posted:Try adding or disabling any ad blocker software.
What web browser are you using ?
I use firefox on my macs , If they get too slow I have to reboot them.
I use Safari. I will try using firefox and see if that helps.
Ok, "Big brother" must be listening, because the jumping has now stopped. (at least for now) I still think I will add firefox to my web browser list though.
They rarely admit to any problems on the ogr site.
Their site was off center sometime last week and I posted the problem like the op here.
Btw I was using my iPad and no other web site had this problem.
Of course I was told it could not be them (OGR). It finally cleared up later that day, hmm!!!
DAVID1, I get a little tired of your accusations about how we choose to handle the moderation and management of this site. What possible reason could we have for lying about the solution to problems here? That would do NO ONE any good and would never solve anything!
- I saw the thread about things being off center and could not duplicate it here on four different PCs, a Mac Pro and two Ipads. I asked Hoopla Tech Support about this and they assured me nothing had changed. They had not published any changes to the software that runs this forum and had no reports of this issue from anyone else. So what am I supposed to do at that point?
- - I have never seen the screen twitch up and down for 2-3 seconds either. Again, I tested this on several PCs, my Mac Pro and my iPad. Rock solid everywhere. If I can't duplicate the problem, I can't solve it or report it.
- - Experience with moderating this forum for the last decade has shown me that 99% of the problems people encounter are either user error and something wrong with the member's computer. It is rarely a problem with this site or its underlying software. You may think I'm lying about this, but facts are facts.
As large as this forum is, we are a SMALL client with the folks at Social Strata, the company that invented the Hoopla platform and supports it. Big companies like Bose, Dun & Bradstreet, The National Council on Aging, Monster, Pinterest, Pepsico and scores of other clients that are MUCH bigger than we are, use this Hoopla forum for their web site and on-line presence. With Fortune 500 clients like that, if there was a problem with the software running this forum, Social Strata would have hundreds of complaints about and it and would be all over it in MINUTES!
"Big Brother" (me) didn't see this thread until a few moments ago, so that conspiracy theory won't fly either. 
Rich, It seems to just be a problem using Safari web browser. I am now using Google Chrome and everything is steady. By the way on Safari the problem I thought stopped, started again just like before.
So it's a BROWSER problem! Well...how about that. Are you listening, DAVID1?
Safari is to the MAC what Internet Exploder is to Windows. It's prone to problems and is not a very good browser.
Firefox is my browser of choice on both the MAC and the PC.
Is there a FireFox for iOS? FF on Win 7, Windows 10, and Android here. uBlock Origin on all of them. If something needs Flash, I use Chrome (and uBlock Origin).
David1 & N5C Johnny,
I use my Mac Safari here on the OGR all the time, the twitching problem has something to due with your provider, not the OGR forum or Safari. I am on Comcast here in Churchill and on Blue Ridge out of NY at the Log Cabin in Potter/Tioga County. I have no problems in either places using Safari to access the OGR sight.
If you have an older Computer make sure you are fully up to date with your Computer Upgrades or there can have problems with some providers.
PCRR/Dave
FWIW I use an iPad exclusively. iOSv 10.3.2 Safari browser. Never had a problem.
illinoiscentral posted:Is there a FireFox for iOS?
Yes, check the App Store.
I think David has a twitch.
Don
I noticed threads with a bunch of picture's does the twitching and wonder if photobucket changed something causing it.
Agreed. It's the pages with photos that's doing it.
I have the same problem on both my Mac & iPhone using Safari. One might be able to shoehorn the Mac into a fringe platform, but I really don't think you can do that to iOS...
It started happening yesterday, and it seems to be specific to those pages which have the 'OGR Forum' ad flipping between the OGR forum online and the Barret's backshop, positioned between the title and the 'featured topics' box. For instance, this page which I'm replying to does not have the ad and is not flipping and does not have the ad.
chessie1971 posted:I noticed threads with a bunch of picture's does the twitching and wonder if photobucket changed something causing it.
Last week, Photobucket changed their usage by disabling hot linking photos in your library unless you sign up for a $400 account. No warning, either. I got caught up in it on another forum.
On a national touring musicians forum, anyone who used Photobucket to share pics and profile pictures (avatars) had them disappear, and our site did similar "twitching" as it tried to find the links that no longer existed from Photo Bucket.
With that being said, I have not experienced this here on OGR on my iPad or my MacBook Pro
I'm using Firefox, and I didn't think had this problem, but then I started typing a post with photos attached, and the jumping started. Maybe that will help narrow it down for you Rich.
BTW, this post steady as a rock, no pics. Regarding Photobucket, could it be that if anyone on a given page used them to host images, it would affect everyone posting to that page?
I added a picture. Is it shaking?
I still have not seen this shaking on three different PCs, a MAC and my iPad.
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Who knows but jeez everyone sure quoted all those videos enough to give you a headache.
The Barrett/Digital Subscription ad has never been run in this forum.
The twitching also started on my system some time over the past week. I believe Mark (Banjoflyer) has it right:
Pages with this ad box: [The Barrett/Digital Subscription ad] alternate with the Jim Barrett ad box and sometimes do the twitchy thing but not always.
I can confirm that this is the problem, not just on Macs (I'm also using Google Chrome on Vista), and I think I know the reason for the "sometimes not always" behavior.
When a page with this ad first loads, the ad images have not yet been cached. When that graphic refreshes, it takes a perceivable amount of time for the image to refresh when it's loaded from the OGR server. By perceivable, I mean something like a quarter to half a second. While the image is reloading, there's no image in its place and the page height changes which causes the twitching. After a few refreshes, both versions of the a image are cached by the browser, the image swapping becomes instant, and the twitching stops. You can easily re-start the twitching again by simply refreshing the page.
One thing is occurring that I've never seen on a web page before and that is that the non-cached swapping will continue to occur as long as the two images are not in focus. For example, if you come to a page because you've clicked a link to a specific reply, the twitching will occur until you scroll to the top of the page and allow for 2 full cycles of the ad refresh (i.e., until the images are both cached). After that, the twitching stops because the page isn't downloading that ad image from the server anymore, the browser is simply reading a local copy. For anyone who's got the twitching, scroll to the top of the page, let the ad cycle a few times, and you should find that the twitching stops.
Rich Melvin: If you'd like me to demonstrate this behavior via a webex where you look at my screen, I'm happy to help.
Steven J. Serenska
P.S. For your reference, the Workbench thread demonstrates this behavior consistently.
Steven, I think you may be on to something. Your description of what's going on may have merit. I saw this ONCE last night on my iPad running the Dolphin browser. However, the screen only moved vertically once and I wasn't sure if it was related to the banner ads or not.
This gives me something to go on. I'll get Hoopla Tech Support involved in this now and see what they can tell me.
Since the issue is still happening, I decided to take a quick look at the pages having the issue inside the Javascript consoles, even though I am not a web programmer (do other programming, though). Although not seeing any specific error that seems directly related to the issue, there are two items that probably could use fixing. The errors pasted are from Firefox on the Mac (which is not bouncing), but I see them as well with Safari.
1) Loading mixed (insecure) display content “http://img.adpeepshosted.com/101842_1011978_875318_436238.jpg” on a secure page
Loading mixed (insecure) display content “http://img.adpeepshosted.com/101842_1011978_875317_422004.jpg” on a secure page
- modern web browsers have gotten into the habit of making sure that if a page is loaded via HTTPS, all the components are as well. Sometimes they refuse to load altogether (based on website configuration), but in this case it's throwing an error and proceeding to load the image anyways. The errors are synced with the page bounce. Even if these aren't the issue, they will eventually stop working as web security continues to advance, so fixing them is probably a good idea. If a switch to HTTPS for these images could be made and the problem goes away, that makes something concrete that can be brought back to Apple to fix...
2) There is a file type mismatch that is throwing an error as well:
The stylesheet https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...responsive_style.css was not loaded because its MIME type, “text/html”, is not “text/css”.
For reference, I have not seen the twitching since the OGR ad was replaced with the Todd Architectural ad.
