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@superwarp1 posted:B&A tank engines, B&A berkshires released twice, yet no B&A caboose or passenger cars. What gives Lionel?????
Lionel did, at least, make a B&A caboose back in the 1980's for its B&A Hudson. So, if I do save up enough money, I'll get that and a B&A Berkshire as a matching pair for myself (in the future).
@GregM posted:Most likely mid July 2022 if history is any guide.
Sounds good to me.
I'd like to see a re-release of the hot metal and slag cars from a while back. I hope I don't see an Allegheny because that is not in the budget for this year and it's among my favorite steamers.
I think the summer catalog will have a lot of Union Pacific stuff for the 160th anniversary. Possibly a Vision 844. Just a guess
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I think the summer catalog will have a lot of Union Pacific stuff for the 160th anniversary. Possibly a Vision 844. Just a guess
Man, I'd love an 844, but I'm sure the price will be way out of my league.
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I think the summer catalog will have a lot of Union Pacific stuff for the 160th anniversary. Possibly a Vision 844. Just a guess
I would love an 844 vision to go with my vision big boy and double head. Will definitely look good with my mth passenger set,4141 sd70ace, and bush funeral baggage car. Couple more months away😀
A few more UP sets I would love to see are:
City Of San Francisco E6 AB superbass B set with matching 21” cars with appropriate silver trim & flat end obs.
die cast legacy M10,000
yes I’m gonna say it. Vision big boy re-release with WWII era & post-war detailing and some VL feature revisions. Force coupler, And safety or dynamo steam effects for starts. And let’s just ditch the depleting coal load feature. My highlight big boy would be a #4000 released as a WWII era set, in a freshly outshopped appearance with “big boy” chalked on it.
But in this catalog if I’m right about it being UP heavy the FEF would be a better choice. Too soon to re-release the big boy. But I would love to see it in a few years. Helloooooo 49ers big boy!! Lol
PS: the Allegheny needs the Vision treatment!
If we are getting UP locos in the next catalog, I want Legacy SD70ACe-T4s and ET44ACs (I would probably get the BNSF versions first, but the UP versions and the prototypes would be on my list, too). The 49er Big Boy is a cool idea. They also need to make a Greyhound version and the 4014 Excursion Big Boy. A UP 3-Unit "Big Blow" Gas Turbine would be an awesome Vision Line model, as would the Propane Turbine and the original 1st Generation Turbines (Lionel would need to get the tooling from MTH). I'm still hoping for a Vision Siemens Charger with multiple versions and matching passenger cars.
For rolling stock I want Vision Ethanol Tank Cars, the return of the Legacy Crane Car/Boom Car sets, and some new modern stuff (Roadrailers, Boeing fuselage trains, intermodal cars, etc.).
For accessories, I really want Lionel to add Command-Control to their Intermodal Crane (or perhaps they could make a Vision Line Scale Intermodal Crane with sounds), re-release the TMCC Gantry Crane/Crane Sounds Work House, make a Fastrack Turntable, and re-release the Rotary Coal Tipple with TMCC.
I would like Lionel to do the FEF-1 through 3 like they did the latest GS series.
Brass hybrid FEF-1 followed by the FEF-2 and FEF-3 with various tenders and paint.
-Brian
The D&H 4-8-4 or the D&H Pacific would be nice too.
@Valpac posted:I have the 3rd rail version, it maybe my favorite 4-6-6-4.
-Brian
You lucky dog! This is one of my holy grail items. 3rd rail isn’t interested in rerunning it due to low sales the first time. I’d be shocked to ever see one done again correctly. Maybe a Lionel custom run but wold likely be a UP challenger with D&H lettering
Maybe if not Lionel, some company could produce this smartphone dock and make everyone happy...
It's just some conceptual thinking. I'm sure it will need to be a smaller overall handheld but the basic idea is here. Phone mechanically docks into the controller and is used as the numeric keypad and screen. All the "major" controls are then done by the dock via BT. All the control much like video game controllers could be hard coded or assigned a function to which it would control. The 2 side "wings" where the horn / bell and train brake could possibly be swapped for left and right handed folks.
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@MartyE I wanted to 3D print this type of adapter/dock but I was going to put the phone inside under physical buttons. The topic didn't get any traction when I posted haha I was looking for ideas like what you just posted so help get the brain storming started. I think this will be the best way forward for those of us that like a physical button.
I know my idea lacks the connection and firmware (software?) but it's just an idea.
How about a nice NYC F-3 ABA Lightening stripe, gray not black, ala Postwar #2344 in Legacy (not LionChief).
Last Lionel done was in 2010 catalog as far as I know. 12 years Lionel, let's go!!
Oh, and maybe some nice scale 18' passenger cars for it.
They have yet to make the SOUTHERN Railway Pullman-Standard 60' boxcars with the slogans "SOUTHERN SERVES THE SOUTH" and "GIVES A GREEN LIGHT TO INNOVATION".
Those were common in freight trains between 1970 and 1995.
Andrew
I'd like to see some CP ES44ACs in CP red w/ the Beaver logo. This would be immensely popular and sell well.
Another run of scale autoracks would be nice, so the older runs would not get marked up too much. And fix that lousy TTX yellow Vietnamese production botched on the last run.
Geno
@72blackbird posted:I'd like to see some CP ES44ACs in CP red w/ the Beaver logo. This would be immensely popular and sell well.
Another run of scale autoracks would be nice, so the older runs would not get marked up too much. And fix that lousy TTX yellow Vietnamese production botched on the last run.
Geno
Yes to that! As well as ES44s in Central Maine and Quebec paint. The CM and Q is a subsidiary of the CP.
If we're going with GEVOs, Lionel could make the Florida East Coast ES44C4 with LNG fuel car and correct truck details. I'd also love a BNSF ES44C4.
Here's my wish for the future of Lionel, not just what's in the upcoming catalog: improved quality control.
After reading all the posts about the problems with the Acela, I decided to write to Lionel and express my concerns about the upcoming release of the Strasburg #90 Decapod, which, according to the response I just received, now has an estimated ship date of 8-29-22. The rest of the reply said, "We do not test as the products are shipped to us but we do provide a 30-day return policy on products and a 1 year warranty repair."
I would wish for the new Western Maryland Railway Mallet, C&O, being used between Cumberland and Frostburg.
A Lionel Lines PS-1 boxcar.
A Lionel Lines Legacy diesel.
The new catalog will probably drop mid July like last year
Scale and Legacy equipped RS-3's..Lehigh and Hudson River and Susquehanna would be great roadnames!
I wish for a new box car model, something no one has in O yet l! 
@SIRT posted:I wish for a new box car model, something no one has in O yet l!
A new kind of boxcar and not necessarily a new road name?
Also would like to see a continued focus on obscure and regional road names in locomotives and rolling stock. I don’t need anymore NYC or Pennsy.
@Madockawando posted:Also would like to see a continued focus on obscure and regional road names in locomotives and rolling stock. I don’t need anymore NYC or Pennsy.
I do agree that the Pennsy, NYC, UP, etc are well known railroads and rostered a large numbers of unique locomotives. At the same time, the short lines and regionals can offer a wide array of engine types and variety that our layouts often need and would benefit from.
Growing up in the Pittsburgh area, the P&LE was one of those railroads for me. I was excited to see the Aliquippa Turn set put out by Lionel a few catalogs back and I had to have it. I have now added a set of P&LE cars released by Lionel around 2016, and I have MTH cars on preorder. I think we need to see more of these unique locos and sets that will add to our layouts rather then the same old, overly known roads.
another Mid National graffiti engine but in lionchief 2.0 or legacy
more graffiti cars - keep em coming
graffiti buildings maybe giant mall place or hangout for young people that would be appropriate for the 90s / early 2000s
@Madockawando posted:A new kind of boxcar and not necessarily a new road name?
(3 new model types) Names are based on the type of these three classes of cars.
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“Traditional sized” or “semi-scale” 2-8-O. Almost all railroads had 2-8-0 engines. Roadname choices limitless. Will attract many buyers! JohnA
@SIRT posted:(3 new model types) Names are based on the type of these three classes of cars.
Sure! Let’s do it!
More demonstrator models, PLEASE!
The following diesel models made have yet to be painted in Demonstrator Colors.....
ALCo:
S2 Switcher #5
RS11
C630
EMD:
SD60MAC [Triclopse]
SD80
SD40-3MPR
GE:
U25B Both SETS : Red/Silver and Blue-Silver
FM :
H-10-44
H-16-44
Tinplate?
@th55 posted:Tinplate?
I wouldn't mind picking up a tinplate set for the Christmas tree. Especially if it has some kind of command control. That's especially appealing for me as I can sit on the couch and use it. I've been wanting a set for under the tree but struggle to pick one.
i had a dream about the catalog again . Here is what i saw
LC2.0 army GP38
daylight painted big blow turbine
LC2.0 fantasy sd90mac
halloween intermodal set with poison containers
to be honest i'm still waiting on my iCarly train set
Maybe the Western Maryland 1309
Make new road numbers for B&O C&O Chessie System GP30 locos, every year until they run out of numbers.
Andrew
@falconservice posted:Make new road numbers for B&O C&O Chessie System GP30 locos, every year until they run out of numbers.
Andrew
yeah and i would love to see Chesapeake and ohio stuff every catalog as well because the C&O is special since my mom used to work in the offices and my great grandfather was a brakeman on the C&O
i'm also still waiting for an iCarly train set with announcements by Miranda Cosgrove
Legacy version of the Santa Fe Warhorse Hudson (with full running gear).
A SW1 in PRR livery.
-Greg
If this has already been stated somewhere earlier, forgive me.
I would like to see an SD40-2 based on the recently released SD40 chassis.
There are so many railroads that use them, it would be crazy not to offer them.
@Carl Peduzzi posted:If this has already been stated somewhere earlier, forgive me.
I would like to see an SD40-2 based on the recently released SD40 chassis.
There are so many railroads that use them, it would be crazy not to offer them.
Different frames. The SD40-2 is 3'1" longer than the SD40.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:Different frames. The SD40-2 is 3'1" longer than the SD40.
Rusty
Thanks Rusty For the info.
None the less, it would be nice to see an updated SD40-2 the the same SD40 qualities. They could produce road names forever with that model.
Semi-scale 2-8-0. Most railroads had em. JohnA
EMD GP20 in PC or Conrail. Fixed pilots or at the very least kinematic pilots.
Dave
Southern F-3’s green or black would be good
Time for another release of the PRR M1a Mountain.
Pat
Scale Polar Express Berk
765 Scale Release
UP Heritage Units
VisionLine #844
@th55 posted:Tinplate?
@BillYo414 posted:I wouldn't mind picking up a tinplate set for the Christmas tree. Especially if it has some kind of command control. That's especially appealing for me as I can sit on the couch and use it. I've been wanting a set for under the tree but struggle to pick one.
A super shiny Polar Express Tinplate set (preferably O gauge) but a basic (Loco, tender, plus 2 or 3 passenger cars) Standard Gauge passenger set would sell well IMHO. Lionel and MTH should have worked out a win/win share the wealth arrangement when they still had their Lionel Corporation Tinplate licensing agreement. Unfortunately there was likely too much stubbornness by both parties.
for the 100th time....scale FL9......
My Wish List:
- Legacy New York Central Dreyfus Hudson
- Legacy Norfolk & Western Y6b or a newly tooled Y6a
- Legacy New You City Subway Sets
- Legacy PRR/LIRR G5s 4-6-0
Fairbanks Morse H20-44....
@Keystone posted:A super shiny Polar Express Tinplate set (preferably O gauge) but a basic (Loco, tender, plus 2 or 3 passenger cars) Standard Gauge passenger set would sell well IMHO. Lionel and MTH should have worked out a win/win share the wealth arrangement when they still had their Lionel Corporation Tinplate licensing agreement. Unfortunately there was likely too much stubbornness by both parties.
That could definitely be win-win and it would be something I'm interested in.
southern gp38 in LC2.0
SOUTHERN F3 LC2.0
another stab at an LC2.0 TURBINE i really want to keep my curves at 36 inches
icarly LC2.0 set
reading lc2.0 diesel
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:More demonstrator models, PLEASE!
The following diesel models made have yet to be painted in Demonstrator Colors.....
FM :
H-10-44
H-16-44
Im with you on FM Demonstrators !
Not sure how much modifications the Lionel early H16-44 would need ... some new trucks and some body mounted handrails ...
3 different H15-44 Demo schemes to chose from !
Pics from my collection ...
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Standard O scale
Plastic body
Three-bay, open-top hoppers
B&O C&O WM reporting marks and numbers
Chessie System scheme
Andrew
did the catalog get delayed why is the trainworld show in august?
@N&WGuy posted:I saw the cover of the 2022 Vol. 2 catalog from a recent email from Lionel! Looks like we’re getting some Early Union Pacific Challengers!!
good lord lionel has been killing it with all the new tooling recently
first the 90 then the class A and now early challengers. jesus christ i need a million dollars and o 72 curves these catalogs are getting crazy and i'm a little overwhelmed. large steam and obscure road names are my biggest weakness and it is getting harder for me to view these catalogs with out being a little sad that i can't bring stuff like this to the top brass of the Allegheny and Willow Point.
@N&WGuy posted:I saw the cover of the 2022 Vol. 2 catalog from a recent email from Lionel! Looks like we’re getting some Early Union Pacific Challengers!!
I was wondering what that engine is! I thought maybe Berkshires or a C&O T1 but I think I can see a second piston housing/chamber. Did MTH make early Challengers or is this new Lionel tooling? I have been under the impression that only 3rd Rail did the early Challengers.
@0-Gauge CJ posted:I was wondering what that engine is! I thought maybe Berkshires or a C&O T1 but I think I can see a second piston housing/chamber. Did MTH make early Challengers or is this new Lionel tooling? I have been under the impression that only 3rd Rail did the early Challengers.
As fair as i know, MTH has never made early challengers. The tooling is probably entirely new.
hey @N&WGuy is it okay for me to make a video talking about these for youtube yet embargo wise ?
i don't want lionel to give my channel a strike
What are the differences between early challengers and the challengers that Lionel has produced previously?
Terrance
@Terrance posted:What are the differences between early challengers and the challengers that Lionel has produced previously?
Terrance
Rusty
We’re there many physical differences between early and late challengers?
Wonder if they will have a Western Maryland challenger in this catalog?
Terrance
I want to see a Lionel Lines Challenger 😉
@paigetrain posted:hey @N&WGuy is it okay for me to make a video talking about these for youtube yet embargo wise ?
i don't want lionel to give my channel a strike
Yeah, you should be alright. This catalog cover is from a Lionel email to everyone who’s signed up for their news letters so it’s something that they’ve leaked. They won’t bother you about it!
i made this video speculating about the catalog
@irish rifle posted:Time for another release of the PRR M1a Mountain.
Pat
OH GOD... NO!
Legacy GP-38
lionchief plus 2.0 gp38
strasburg 89 and 475
more new hope and ivyland stuff
more graffiti locomotives and freight cars
@Tom Densel posted:In AC&Y paint...Sign me up for two of them
Tom
Id need 2 FM H20-44 ...
One of each Demonstrator scheme ... at the
minimum
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I hear there will be a bit of green in this catalog ....
@DaveSlie posted:I hear there will be a bit of green in this catalog ....
Pennsylvania Green or Southern Green? Unfortunately neither interests me. I am hoping for more Canadian and New England road names.
@DaveSlie posted:I hear there will be a bit of green in this catalog ....
green as in PRR green or green as in lionel is making the CP hydrogen engine or wabtec battery engine?
This is a joke to entertain so please don't take this seriously:
My wish is for the catalogue to be a blank so I am not enticed to buy something I can ill afford, which I have done on numerous occasions during the past 25 years.
This is a compliment to the major O Gauge manufacturers who make wonderful things I often find irresistible. Arnold
@Arnold D. Cribari posted:This is a joke to entertain so please don't take this seriously:
My wish is for the catalogue to be a blank so I am not enticed to buy something I can ill afford, which I have done on numerous occasions during the past 25 years.
This is a compliment to the major O Gauge manufacturers who make wonderful things I often find irresistible. Arnold
for me that catalog could contain NOTHING i asked for and i will still want something from it because its a book of model trains and i will always find something in that book irresistable even though i may be miles away from affording it. i'm still looking at you Class A and New Hope and Ivyland set.
@DETROIT posted:I'm going to ask the obvious question - Reading Green, BN Green, PC Green, PRR Green --- more money green for sure!
PC green doesn't bother me. Its the PC black that hurts my wallet.
Tom
@DETROIT posted:I'm going to ask the obvious question - Reading Green, BN Green, PC Green, PRR Green --- more money green for sure!
Is PRR green, or really DGLE (Dark Green Locomotive Enamel), really green? It is more black with a greenish sheen to it than a true green
Is PRR Green known as Brunswick Green?
I believe the green PRR GG1s were Brunswick Green which is mostly black and a little green.
Only 11 days till it comes out.
Would be nice to see a couple postwar remake offerings plus new PS-1 boxcars and PS-4 flatcars.
Terrance
@Arnold D. Cribari posted:Is PRR Green known as Brunswick Green?
I believe the green PRR GG1s were Brunswick Green which is mostly black and a little green.
The actual name was Standard Dark Green Locomotive Enamel and used by the PRR from the 1880s. Not sure how Brunswick Green got started, maybe that was a Lionel thing.
And it did not have green paint in it per most accounts. It was black paint with a copper oxide additive (or something like that-accounts vary) which gave it the green tinge. The copper oxide got greener with age.
@Terrance posted:Would be nice to see a couple postwar remake offerings plus new PS-1 boxcars and PS-4 flatcars.
Terrance
I would like to see that too. I would like to see some postwar style road names on new PS-1 boxcars and PS-4 flatcars.
New Tooling
NYC Mercury locomotive and scale length passenger cars
Scale C&O L1
NYC Commodore Vanderbilt locomotive
Stillwell scale length passenger cars
Accurate scale length Strasburg passenger cars
Scale length Amfleet
Rerun the C420's in NY Susquehanna and Western in yellow and black and the maroon and yellow paint schemes
I’m excited for the early challengers. Hoping they are brass hybrid with the standard vision challenger features. One can dream & hope they also add force coupler. My 1st choice would be D&H. But I would also reserve UP if D&H is not offered.
cheers, & Happy 4th!!
I again put in a plug for a Vision Dreyfus Hudson. That 20th Century Limited was the best looking passenger train that ever graced the rails in this country, IMHO.
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I’m excited for the early challengers. Hoping they are brass hybrid with the standard vision challenger features. One can dream & hope they also add force coupler. My 1st choice would be D&H. But I would also reserve UP if D&H is not offered.
cheers, & Happy 4th!!
i actually hope they are diecast because brass might be more expensive
but what does it matter either way i can't afford it
@DaveSlie posted:I hear there will be a bit of green in this catalog ....
Which green? SR Green? BN Green? PRR DGLE?
LNER Apple Green? 
I Love Lionel, all I’m hoping for is better Quality Control, better packaging, and more parts for their products do to parts missing when items received. They have great offerings, just need a lot closer watch on product quality control. Great thread, there will be something for everyone in this new and highly anticipated 2022 Volume two catalog. Happy Railroading Everyone
@leapinlarry posted:I Love Lionel, all I’m hoping for is better Quality Control, better packaging, and more parts for their products do to parts missing when items received. They have great offerings, just need a lot closer watch on product quality control. Great thread, there will be something for everyone in this new and highly anticipated 2022 Volume two catalog. Happy Railroading Everyone
Well said. Lionel always has great items to choose from with great features to boot. Like you said, though, they have had some bad luck with quality control. Also, cheaper prices wouldn't be so bad either.
i second that
we need higher quality control for the prices we pay
It's tricky. The Challenger has been on my wishlist but the model railroading funds are running quite low. Progress on my layout is stalled until I get some bills paid up. We'll see. These better be some unbelievable Challenger models. I don't mind finding a side hustle to fund the hobby. It just takes some good offerings.
@BillYo414 posted:It's tricky. The Challenger has been on my wishlist but the model railroading funds are running quite low. Progress on my layout is stalled until I get some bills paid up. We'll see. These better be some unbelievable Challenger models. I don't mind finding a side hustle to fund the hobby. It just takes some good offerings.
i haven't made progress on a layout in over a year. my train fund right now might only cover some second hand rolling stock. i'm really starting to lose hope. my railroad isn't nicknamed Penn Central of the west for nothing.
Keep on it man @paigetrain. Where there's a will, there's a way!
It would be cool to see some rolling stock lettered for East Broad Top (*cough* scale coal hoppers) now that they are close to running steam again.
...and yes the real EBT is narrow gauge, but Lionel has stretched the "fantasy realm" farther than that
