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I've noticed with the first issue of the SD60 (1999/2000 I believe) Lionel has it listed as an SD60MAC. Never really paid much attention to it. It's offered on the same page as a few SD70MAC's. On the real ones, the engines are almost identical except there's a difference in the trucks and the frame is slightly shorter on the SD60. I own two of the Lionel SD70MAC's but still haven't been able to get my hands on an SD60. Now, if I'm correct in what I've seen just looking at pictures, it appears they used the exact same tooling for the frame and long hood, just changed the cab. Can anyone with both of these engines confirm that? I know on the SD70MAC the frame has support for around the inside of the nose, so the frame on the SD60 might be different in that area because of the standard cab. It'd be cool to know if they have interchangeable shell parts, it could make for some interesting custom engines with minimal/no work at all.

 

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Originally Posted by tjl824:

I've noticed with the first issue of the SD60 (1999/2000 I believe) Lionel has it listed as an SD60MAC. Never really paid much attention to it. It's offered on the same page as a few SD70MAC's. On the real ones, the engines are almost identical

 

You might want to do a bit more research into that. The SD60 model had a "standard cab & nose" , while the SD60M had the same "wide nose" as the SD70MAC, however the long hood carbody structure are quite different between the SD60M and the SD70MAC, due to all the inverter cooling air intakes.

 

except there's a difference in the trucks and the frame is slightly shorter on the SD60.

 

Yes, and those obvious differences should be very obvious between an SD60/SD60M and the SD70MAC models.

 

I own two of the Lionel SD70MAC's but still haven't been able to get my hands on an SD60. Now, if I'm correct in what I've seen just looking at pictures, it appears they used the exact same tooling for the frame and long hood, just changed the cab. Can anyone with both of these engines confirm that? I know on the SD70MAC the frame has support for around the inside of the nose, so the frame on the SD60 might be different in that area because of the standard cab. It'd be cool to know if they have interchangeable shell parts, it could make for some interesting custom engines with minimal/no work at all.

 

Trevor

 

Originally Posted by tjl824:

I've noticed with the first issue of the SD60 (1999/2000 I believe) Lionel has it listed as an SD60MAC. Never really paid much attention to it. It's offered on the same page as a few SD70MAC's. On the real ones, the engines are almost identical except there's a difference in the trucks and the frame is slightly shorter on the SD60. I own two of the Lionel SD70MAC's but still haven't been able to get my hands on an SD60. Now, if I'm correct in what I've seen just looking at pictures, it appears they used the exact same tooling for the frame and long hood, just changed the cab. Can anyone with both of these engines confirm that? I know on the SD70MAC the frame has support for around the inside of the nose, so the frame on the SD60 might be different in that area because of the standard cab. It'd be cool to know if they have interchangeable shell parts, it could make for some interesting custom engines with minimal/no work at all.

 

Trevor

From my history, yes they did use the same body mold except the cab.

 

Now we need MTH and Lionel to make the newer SD60E so we can have the NS Honoring Our Veterans SD60E #6920 and NS Honoring First Responders SD60E #9-1-1 / #911.

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That's funny that you mentioned the SD60E's. That's actually something I've been considering doing for a while. If there'd be interest in it (since it's a huge undertaking) I have the capability to producing a scale Crescent cab.  As long as Lionel just "fudged" the tooling and used the same ones (except for the cab obviously) all I'd have to do is swap a few parts on the new Legacy SD70MAC, plus paint, and I could sell a few of the resulting SD60E's.......

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