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nw2124 posted:

He would do that because there were some later with yellow handrails. That's why. Do your research! ! ! ! ! !

Stephen

Do you have better reference then Bowers's and Brewer's "Cabooses of the Norfolk And Western"?  If so what is it?

Let us see the dated pictures.  Was steam still in revenue service?

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PRRronbh posted:
nw2124 posted:

He would do that because there were some later with yellow handrails. That's why. Do your research! ! ! ! ! !

Stephen

Do you have better reference then Bowers's and Brewer's "Cabooses of the Norfolk And Western"?  If so what is it?

Let us see the dated pictures.  Was steam still in revenue service?

The book does not show all paint schemes of the 19+ versions of the N&W caboose. It's called photo research. That's why there are staff versions of the CF cabooses in the 70's. I am one of the original 75 members of the NWHS, and I have been collecting, photographing, and researching N&W over 50+ years. How about you?

Stephen

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nw2124 posted:
PRRronbh posted:
nw2124 posted:

He would do that because there were some later with yellow handrails. That's why. Do your research! ! ! ! ! !

Stephen

Do you have better reference then Bowers's and Brewer's "Cabooses of the Norfolk And Western"?  If so what is it?

Let us see the dated pictures.  Was steam still in revenue service?

The book does not show all paint schemes of the 19+ versions of the N&W caboose. It's called photo research. That's why there are staff versions of the CF cabooses in the 70's. I am one of the original 75 members of the NWHS, and I have been collecting, photographing, and researching N&W over 50+ years. How about you?

Stephen

Then again show us a dated picture of a CF with yellow handrails and grabirons.

Brother_Love posted:

Stephen,

Let me rephrase my reply. I am painting the handrails to match the photos I have for the 50-60's and they are all black handrails. I do have some photos with yellow handrails from a later era.

Thanks for the help. Malcolm

Malcom: You doing the handrails in black is for the era that is most popular. If I were doing that cabooses I would follow your lead also. It's just that there are soooo many versions I was just wondering how you were handling the Project.

You stated that the cabooses are out of the paint shop and decaled. Do you normally paint the handrails last? Anyone would be proud to own one of your cabooses. I am a little jealous of your talent.

Stephen

nw2124 posted:
Brother_Love posted:

Stephen,

Let me rephrase my reply. I am painting the handrails to match the photos I have for the 50-60's and they are all black handrails. I do have some photos with yellow handrails from a later era.

Thanks for the help. Malcolm

Malcom: You doing the handrails in black is for the era that is most popular. If I were doing that cabooses I would follow your lead also. It's just that there are soooo many versions I was just wondering how you were handling the Project.

You stated that the cabooses are out of the paint shop and decaled. Do you normally paint the handrails last? Anyone would be proud to own one of your cabooses. I am a little jealous of your talent.

Stephen

Stephen Jealous  hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

The old N&W mainline between Roanoke and Norfolk cuts my farm in half, so growing up I watched mainly Class A, K and Y engines go by.  I own and am restoring the house that Willis Vail, head engineer,  photographer and my great great uncle by marriage, lived in while he directed the building of the Lynchburg Belt Line for the N&W.  Any information I share is based on pictures and documents. I know the "old" N&W historical society distributed lots of bad info that is being corrected by the current N&W Historical Society's archives.  We are so lucky to have all this information being made available.

I come here to enjoy the fantastic work fellow modelers are doing and to share whatever information I may have that may help other modelers. 

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VGN64 posted:

The old N&W mainline between Roanoke and Norfolk cuts my farm in half, so growing up I watched mainly Class A, K and Y engines go by.  I own and am restoring the house that Willis Vail, head engineer,  photographer and my great great uncle by marriage, lived in while he directed the building of the Lynchburg Belt Line for the N&W.  Any information I share is based on pictures and documents. I know the "old" N&W historical society distributed lots of bad info that is being corrected by the current N&W Historical Society's archives.  We are so lucky to have all this information being made available.

I come here to enjoy the fantastic work fellow modelers are doing and to share whatever information I may have that may help other modelers. 

I also try to share and correct misinformation. That is why Malcolm changed the caboose. There are those who lack information like the CF cabooses which had many many versions believing those in the know make up such thing. I grew up along the Peavine having photos of the S1a K, Jawn Henry, etc. in Clare yard and riding the local power there. Clare was my second home. Like you  I have N&W in my blood coming from a railroad family.

Stephen

 

VGN64 posted:

Here is a CF with staff brake stand.  I enlarged it and in my humble opinion it has metal roof, metal roof walk, and hamburger paint scheme.  When it comes to CFs I think any combination of brake stand, roof, and paint can be prototypical.

N&W CF #518315 with Abram Burnett at Payne, Va DS02154

VGN64, thank you so much for posting this picture of a CF in scheme 1H (adopted Jan. 1964) still having a brake staff.  This provided prototypical evidence that the 518315 did exist in scheme 1F/1G and still retain a brake staff.

AND many thanks to Malcolm for creating this handcrafted piece!

Ron

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