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Sorry, thats what I meant, the rubber vestibules/diaphrams between the cars.  I was shorted 3, do you have all 7?
 
Originally Posted by mikemike:

I just opened mine and I have no vestibules on any of the cars!!!!!!!! Just rubber diaphrams.  Charles Ro will be getting a call tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!VERY DISSAPOINTED

Do you mind telling me which cars had the vestibule? I can't read the names on the photos

 

The Blue Comet is a mythic train with a lot of history, legend and majesty behind it. I would think that given Lionel's long history of the Blue Comet such mistakes would not be made. 

 

But both manufacturers have difficulties. I have 6 MTH engines at Leesburg Hobby getting repaired. Then I have a MTH Premier Milwaukee Road corrugated auto carrier set that had malfunctioning couplers on 5 of the 6 cars also back with them. And recently I purchased the BNSF Northern Pacific SD70 Ace Heritage which I ran for the first time at the B & O Show with the National Capital Trackers. The rear coupler kept opening and I couldn't pull a train. Great sound and Legacy...but I wish the coupler worked. 

 

I think many O Gauge modelers have tolerated too much in this area. 

Originally Posted by SandJam:

Aren't the diaphragms the vestibules?

No, they're different things. Vestibules are small enclosed rooms at the end of the passenger cars, a part of the car body under the roof. Usually this is the area that passengers first enter when they climb the steps to enter the car. On one end of the vestibule is the opening to which is attached the flexible diaphragm which is attached to the next car, and on the other end of the vestibule is the entrance door to the passenger car interior itself. The steps up to the car, and the outside doors, are on each side of the vestibule.

 

There are lots of variations in car designs, though, and location or even existence of vestibules varies. Often they are only on one end of the car. In any case, the vestibule and diaphragm are two different things.

Last edited by breezinup

Hi Sean,

 

Sorry to hear about the missing diaphragms.  I'm sure Mike R. will take care of you ASAP.

 

I noticed a nice touch that Lionel included on these cars.  The floor of the observation platform is painted with a parquet pattern.  The real Blue Comet rolling stock was also outfitted with white and black linoleum flooring tiles. The tile size is larger than the prototype and I'm not sure the tiles were used on the observation platform, but it is really cool that they painted the floor of the cars.  An excellent case of competition raising the bar.

Ok Thank you for enlightening me.  So to MikeMike, there are no vestibules in this set just the diaphrams.  So sounds like your set is OK.  I just happen to get one where the factory worker was tired I guess.  hahah. 
 
Originally Posted by breezinup:
Originally Posted by SandJam:

Aren't the diaphragms the vestibules?

No, they're different things. Vestibules are small enclosed rooms at the end of the passenger cars, a part of the car body under the roof. Usually this is the area that passengers first enter when they climb the steps to enter the car. On one end of the vestibule is the opening to which is attached the flexible diaphragm which is attached to the next car, and on the other end of the vestibule is the entrance door to the passenger car interior itself. The steps up to the car, and the outside doors, are on each side of the vestibule.

 

There are lots of variations in car designs, though, and location or even existence of vestibules varies. Often they are only on one end of the car. In any case, the vestibule and diaphragm are two different things.

 

Wait are you saying there are no figures in any of your cars?  All mine had figures in them.  Did I get the Twilight Zone set or something?
 
Originally Posted by pmilazzo:

My Blue Comet cars had 2 diaphragms in each box for a total of 8!  You only need 7. No people in my cars either like you have in one of the pictures.

 

 

Originally Posted by MrMuffin'sTrains:

We got 8 too. There were two in the observation. Our cars have people too. 

Right, there were 2 diaphragms packed in with the observation car which only needs one.  I probably have people but didn't notice since I was more concerned with examining the paint, lettering, and making sure nothing was broken...just didn't notice the people inside.  I'm sure I'll notice when I put the cars on the track for the first time. I wasn't expecting people to even take a careful look inside, so this is an added plus.

 

Right now, my curves  on the layout need to be enlarged, so the passenger cars are boxed up again waiting for some running room.  I believe the cars are rated for O54 curves and my widest are O48.  It's time for a layout upgrade anyway and this was the perfect catalyst.

 
 
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