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I am thinking of purchasing a VL Lionel Seaboard or N De M Centipede single A unit. While I am not very picky about "prototypical" running of locos together, I wanted to know if these have ever been run in any of the following Centipede A-A units combo's: PRR and Seaboard, PRR and N De Mexico or Seaboard and N de Mexico? 

 

Thx in Advance!

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Seaboard had 14 Centipedes (4500-4513), only 4500 was built with a steam generator (water tanks converted to hold fuel in 1949).

 

The worked mainline freights from Atlanta and Jacksonville, north to Richmond.  They were transferred to Jacksonville, working in Florida and to Montgomery AL and scrapped in 1961.

 

Of all the photos I've seen, I've only seen SAL single units.  I would expect most company photos would not show a RRs units with other RRs units.

Judging from period photos of the N de M (My gosh, was 1963 really over 50 years ago?), the N de M did use AA combinations. I'm trying to remember if they ran elephant style or back to back and am drawing a blank. The N de M also let them run solo from time to time.

 

For Mexican caboose fans: when in doubt, paint the caboose yellow.

Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:

... While I am not very picky about "prototypical" running of locos together, I wanted to know if these have ever been run in any of the following Centipede A-A units combo's: PRR and Seaboard, PRR and N De Mexico or Seaboard and N de Mexico? 

 

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Are you asking if this was ever done in the real-world?  Or are you asking if folks have run the single Lionel units in these combinations to make your own A-A?  The latter is probably technically doable -- however, in all likelihood you won't have the steroephonic echo in the Railsounds horn that comes with Lionel's factory-paired AA units.

 

David

Originally Posted by Bob Delbridge:

Seaboard had 14 Centipedes (4500-4513), only 4500 was built with a steam generator (water tanks converted to hold fuel in 1949).

 

The worked mainline freights from Atlanta and Jacksonville, north to Richmond.  They were transferred to Jacksonville, working in Florida and to Montgomery AL and scrapped in 1961.

 

Of all the photos I've seen, I've only seen SAL single units.  I would expect most company photos would not show a RRs units with other RRs units.

I grew up in Tallahassee, FL and the old timer railfans use to tell me about seeing these on the East-West main from Jacksonville to the Seaboard's connection with the L&N to the West, on through trains into New Orleans at the tail end of their career. I wasn't born until the end of the 60s, so I never got to see one.

I'd also heard rumors as a kid that one was still hidden around the area, but we've all heard stories like that. Sort of a big engine to just throw a tarp over and hope nobody notices.

Hi David; I am asking if in real life different road A units were run together.
 
I can MU two A-A units and of course as you mentioned I will not get the echo effect. For less than $500 and A unit, I can get Two different A units to run separately and/or alone... I am thinking the Seaboard is green and the PRR are green too so may be they will look OK running together back to back.
 
Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:
Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:

... While I am not very picky about "prototypical" running of locos together, I wanted to know if these have ever been run in any of the following Centipede A-A units combo's: PRR and Seaboard, PRR and N De Mexico or Seaboard and N de Mexico? 

 

...

Are you asking if this was ever done in the real-world?  Or are you asking if folks have run the single Lionel units in these combinations to make your own A-A?  The latter is probably technically doable -- however, in all likelihood you won't have the steroephonic echo in the Railsounds horn that comes with Lionel's factory-paired AA units.

 

David

 

 

Thx for the picture Bil, this color scheme looks great in black and red....

 

I may have made a good/bad  deal here....I made a ridiculously Low bid on a brand new 2007 Z-6 MTH Challenger and it got accepted!!!

 

 

MTH 4-6-6-4 Z-6 Challenger Steam Engine w/Proto-Sound 2.0 [Hi-Rail Wheels)

 

But I still want to get the Centipede A unit, most likely in the Seaboard RR, so now I will have to sell my soul to the Devil for about $465....

 

I swear this hobby is worse than addiction to drugs!!!!

 

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Those of you that bought a Centipede, how was it package?  Did it have the blue ribbons to pull it out?  I jut opened mine and it didn't have them and the windows for the cab where laying in the box. I try to run it but it would move, it makes all the sound, and i program it into my control.  Wondering if I got someone returned item. Jut didn't seem right with out the ribbons

No ribbons for mine. have not tested it yet. BUT:

 

On the box is clearly states: "NON VISION LINE" Centipede xxxxx

 

Why in the catalog it never mentions the same? Most people, including some Lionel dealers "thought" that the single unit is a VL product.

 

I am not happy knowing that the single unit is a one year warranty even though it is PRICED and built identically to the A-A unit (apart form the echo sound)

 

I bought the single unit thinking it was a 3 year warranty after one of the dealers stated this on this forum (I don't blame them,They may have made the same assumptions most of us did).

 

Anyway, I'll be contacting Lionel to get some answers after I get back to the US..

 

Sorry about your Centipede,I'd see if a local dealer can take care of you or send it back to Lionel...I do hope I will not go through this with my two units..

 

 

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I brought it from a online dealer. My local guy wouldn't touch it, if he didn't sell it.  I guess I'll be calling Lionel tomorrow.  I waited two weeks to open it, I like to reward my self by completing a project in the train room then I can't open a package.  It was a choice between that and 3rd rail train of the future. I guess I picked the wrong package.

Can your dealer refuse a Lionel product according to Lionel's policy? I am asking, I don't know.
 
Many other product's warranty is honored through its dealers...
 
Originally Posted by rboatertoo:

I brought it from a online dealer. My local guy wouldn't touch it, if he didn't sell it.  I guess I'll be calling Lionel tomorrow.  I waited two weeks to open it, I like to reward my self by completing a project in the train room then I can't open a package.  It was a choice between that and 3rd rail train of the future. I guess I picked the wrong package.

 

Originally Posted by rboatertoo:
I brought a christmas train set and they refused to service it. I had to sent it to lionel, but they sent a new one out in a week.  I look at the centipede and can't firgure out how the windows could have fell out.  I am thinking they were never put in.

LOL...They put the windows in the box to see if you are capable of doing it yourself, hence on next production they will do the same to ALL locos and save 0.02 cents per loco....

 

If you are a little mechanical, I'd open it up and fix it myself, why spend $35+ for shipping and wait weeks or months and risk shipping damage?

 

It Su*** on an $1099 MSRP loco, but C'set la vie (such is life)

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