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Hi Everyone,

 

I found some treasures at the O scale show in Hudson, MA today and I was hoping some of the knowledgeable people here could give me some more info on these items since I know very little about 2 rail engines, especially earlier ones.

 

First up is what I was told was a Varney brass Engine and tender. I think it's from 1947, but I'm not positive. Can people tell me a little about it or ID it if it's something different? Also it's approximate year would be great.

 

Second is what I was told was a Lobaugh brass engine and tender. Not sure of it's year. Same questions as above.

 

Lastly is an F3 AB unit. I was told they were All Nation. Not sure of their year either. They are very heavy and appear to be diecast with brass fittings and gears. Same questions as previous two.

 

Lastly, I assume these are all DC. Could they be modified to run DCC? I'm not sure if they have can motors or not.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

 

 

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I can't tell you any years, but the mfg seem right.   I am pretty sure of the 4-6-0 and the A-B set.    I think I have seen catalogue photos of the 0-6-0 described as Lobough.

 

The 4-6-0 could be a Varney, General Models, All Nation or Babbitt.   All Nation probably produced more of them than the other 3.   That is the chronological order of the company who took over the product line.   I can't give you dates on changes.   It is not Babbitt because they converted the chassis to sprung drivers.    The F-3 A-B could be Atwater, General Models, or All Nation.   Again in chronological order of the model line owners.   All Nation was still producing them until Bill Pope died about 5 years ago.   

 

ON both of those, you might find the company name somewhere on the castings but that may not be definitive if the new owner did not rework the dies.

 

As for DCC, Yes they probably can be run easily on DCC.   the best control only decoder in my opinion for these old locos with open frame motors is the NCE D408SR.   This has a 4 amp continuous capacity and about a 10 amp stall capacity.    I have used them in many older locos.   those decoders have 6-8 functions, so you can add lights and other stuff easily also.

The 0-6-0 is a Lobaugh SP switcher.  I think I can see the insulation between the driver tires and wheel centers on the left side of the model so it appears to be a 2 rail model.

 

Lobaugh produced this model in 1/4" scale and 17/64" scale before WWII and from the shape of the driver retainers, this appears to be an early model so it could be a 17/64" model.  I don't think Lobaugh continued to produce the 17/64" models after WWII, but I am not certain about that.  The difference in size is apparent when you place it next to a 1/4" scale model of the same loco. A friend of mine purchased a 17/64" model at a TCA York meet a few years ago and was surprised when he brought it over to show it to me and sat it next to my 1/4" scale loco.  Without a comparison he could not see the difference.

 

Joe Foehrkolb

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