Thanks for the update Mike!

Great news Mike! 

 

Any reasonable chance the bell can be moved for the 630? 

Will they have whistle steam?

Catalog page 35 which has the Consolidations says they will. 

Mike - thank you for taking the time to make Lionel trains more scale like. This definitely will be a big improvement.

I really like the NKP version.

I would like to hear that from mike.  The Lima Berk also, stated it had whistle steam and it didn't.  I preordered it mainly because of that.  If it does I'm ordering the NKP.

I would also like to hear that from Mike.

 

There is confusion because the catalog says it, but doesn't depict it in the picture.

 

Many potential buyers on the fence about these until Whistle Steam is/isn't confirmed a feature.  More orders for Lionel if it does.

Mike:

 

Thanks for giving us an update.  I will order a Southern Railway "630" now.

 

Neal Jeter

Excellent beginning to much-needed, Lionel-to-consumer communications.  Kudos goes to Mike R. for leading this effort.  

 

David

Thank you Mike! This is great news.

Mike Reagan said that if we really want an accurate model of #630 and want to wait for them to spend money to obtain new tooling to do that, we should say so. Personally, I'd rather wait for THAT to happen. If they do that, I'm sure it'll be well worth the wait and extra money.

I still would like confirmation on whistle steam.  Thanks!

+1

 

 

Hi all,

Yes, all the Legacy 2-8-0 consolidations will be equipped with both stack smoke & whistle steam effect.

 

Thanks,

Mike

That's great news, thanks!

 

Will place my order now.

Mike, will NYC GP9 be painted as shown in catalog photo as gray with lighting stripes or cigar band paint scheme?

Thanks Mike!

 

 

Lightning stripes on all NYC GP-9's with torpedo tubes (my bad on the cigar band comment on Notch 6, sorry about that!).

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

You the man Mike! Thanks for all the detail.

WHOHOO! Time to do my train dance!

 

 

I now see a 630 in my future!  Whistle steam and the new tender made the difference for me.  I just play with trains.

After seeing this Lionel catalog, I was considering the MTH version of the 734 (or other WM #) even though I don't have DCS or intend to get it. I would need to run it in conventional mode with a TPC, or add ERR.

If your post means that there could still be design upgrades to this release, to more accurately depict the engine, I would prefer to wait - let us know.

 

Dave

 

Will they all have 4 chuffs per rev? synced with smoke.

All Legacy steam loco have 4 chuffs per revolution! (unless they are an articulated then there are 8!)

 

 

I wish you would do a T&NO / SP version of the consolidation. And, while you are at it make a model of a T&NO / SP Mikado like the #786. 

 

Hi MIKE MIKADO,

  Since you have a SD38 in Reading & Northern, are there any plans to have rolling stock with this livery?

Mr Reagan -

 

Excellent move - but it may cost me money (your plan, all along)...as the C&A (Alton) was once a Harriman road and had some Harriman 2-8-0's in the same family as your SP/UP prototype, and they had tenders more like (not just like - smaller) the ones you will actually deliver. So, your loco more truly reflects the Alton loco.

 

And I'm not afraid to re-decal anything. 

 

So thanks, I think...

 

(BTW, I have one of the "old" SP 2-8-0's - TMCC/no Odyssey - and those locos were equipped with an un-sprung leading truck - every one of the old ones that I've ever been around loves to derail that truck. Was this ever improved? I haven't seen any of the later editions. Pretty sure that I can fix mine, but never have - too many projects.)  

Thanks for the info Mike! That change defiantly seals the deal for me.  Any way you could change the bell's location?

Max

I think many modelers of the Southern would love to see the bell moved. Myself included. 

I agree move the bell if at all possible on the Southern 630.

 

Neal Jeter

Mike, moving the bell on 630 would help.  But, the Harriman Consolidations are actually much closer in accuracy to another Southern Consolidation, the 401 which is operating in Illinois.  It would be excellent if you also added the 401 (or perhaps maybe B&O 2785 to go with my B&O 2784 ), which could be easily done by moving the bell to the front (at the very edge of the top of the smokebox, instead of the top front of the smokebox like 630) and using the tender from your 2-6-0's.  But changing the tender on the ones you have mentioned might cause me to spring for a NKP...

Lionel is making an SP version.

D500 -- I had the same problem with my Consolidation back in the day. The lead truck couldn't take crossovers. I finally sold it at a loss. Hope they fixed the new ones.

That's true, but in the catalog the SP version is shown to have the silver boiler front, making the tender and the marker lights the biggest errors.  Also, compared to the UP prototype, the tender seems to be more accurate to SP (for instance the real UP 618 is a coal burner, not an oil burner as cataloged, and the tender is proportioned differently).

Now if I could just convince you to make either a Legacy F3 or FL9 in the New Haven McGinnis scheme!

Mike

I think I agree with you on that, Mikado 4501.

 

Well, that's not news.  Virtually everything I sell is at a loss, often significant. Looking at the Forum Buy/Sell, almost everything there seems to sell for substantial losses. That's how it is with most things - items sell for less on re-sale. (And of course, your engine was used.)

breezinup, yes, I agree that most things sell for a loss. You are lucky to get what you paid for something. The Consolidation was actually only run for a minute or so since it kept derailing. I took it to my service station and they tried to fix the problem but were unsuccessful, which prompted me to sell it. At a loss. I was not happy, but sometimes you just lose. Lionel should have done something to fix the problem even if it meant refunding people's money but they chose not to.