I am very happy to hear the news about Atlas acquiring the tooling from MTH and am glad to see that the Protosound system will still be around.I wonder about the molds MTH used to make the Premier Line GG-1's and E-44's if someone will purchase those? I like this purchase by Atlas though.
Awesomeness! Maybe as time progresses other items will be added. This also leaves room for other manufacturers to come in and pick up some of the other stuff. 2-4 manufacturers creates competition and can help with better support on the wallet. Either way, this is wonderful news for the O Scale community.
Dave
now, if we could get Atlas to make the hand-held remotes and tiu's without that crappy wi-fi ....i will be a happy dcs train operater again....
@GenesisFan99 posted:As an Amtrak modeler, I am super excited that Atlas picked up the P42 molds. Perhaps the new Amtrak heritage units will be produced in O after all.
Seconded!
It would be a great way to start off this new Atlas era. Throw in some Phase V Amfleets and then we are talking!
I do hope to find out they're going to make some MTH steamers but I'm glad to hear this news in general because I become a bigger fan of Atlas every time I buy something from them. I hope it works out for them!
It will be very interesting to see what happens with DCS and TMCC.
Good to see some movement on this issue. Hope that Atlas can do a better job delivering product.
The slow pace of news (until now) had me concerned that either Mike Wolf had an unrealistic idea of the value of the assets or that other manufacturers were bearish about the future prospects of the hobby.
Hopefully some of the panic buying of MTH stuff will taper off.
I’m way too optimistic, but if they got a really good price for the dcs/tooling, could we see new six axle diesels for a preorder at or about $400? I doubt it, but it’s definitely possible, and would give Lionel a run for their money. PS, maybe the current mth brand turns into railking with Mike wolf limited runs or catalogs 1-2x a year? If something like this happens, the hobby is in excellent shape.
I doubt Mike Wolf will be making limited runs of anything he's getting out of the business. I could see Lionel possibly picking up the Railking line and putting Lionchief in them for separate sale locomotives and RTR train sets but they won't have PS-3 in them for sure.
@Chris Lonero posted:I doubt Mike Wolf will be making limited runs of anything he's getting out of the business. I could see Lionel possibly picking up the Railking line and putting Lionchief in them for separate sale locomotives and RTR train sets but they won't have PS-3 in them for sure.
Yes, this is too bad for those of us running smaller layouts with 031 track. Much of RailKing fit nicely there, was great value for the money. I hope some of the Premiere tooling will allow for 031-036. I know some of it does now, but much does not.
But it's GREAT news about P3 and DCS being supported. That really helps me feel better about owning MTH trains right now.
@Csxcellent posted:I’m way too optimistic, but if they got a really good price for the dcs/tooling, could we see new six axle diesels for a preorder at or about $400? I doubt it, but it’s definitely possible, and would give Lionel a run for their money. PS, maybe the current mth brand turns into railking with Mike wolf limited runs or catalogs 1-2x a year? If something like this happens, the hobby is in excellent shape.
I'd be shocked!! Atlas O 'conventional' diesels approach the $400 mark. A whole new line of product? Probably bigger than their $500 TMCC locomotives.
@pdxtrains posted:Yes, this is too bad for those of us running smaller layouts with 031 track. Much of RailKing fit nicely there, was great value for the money. I hope some of the Premiere tooling will allow for 031-036. I know some of it does now, but much does not.
But it's GREAT news about P3 and DCS being supported. That really helps me feel better about owning MTH trains right now.
I agree with you, I will miss Rail King a lot, but hey, we can't have everything. At least our investment in DCS appears to be better protected going forward. That's peace of mind.
This move acquiring Premier but not Rail King adds further support to my belief that the middle of the hobby is getting reduced. Just not enough of us running semi/O27 scale that want the goodies that Lionmaster and Rail King Imperial offer. .
I understand it and respect the business side of that equation. Heck, I realize I'm part of the problem. I have about 25 engines.....9 conventional, 6 DCS, 1 LC, 1 LC+, and 8 TMCC. I don't need another engine. In fact, I'm planning on giving 3 of my TMCC engines to my daughter and soon-to-be-son-in-law this Christmas to get the hobby going further in the family.
Plus that makes room for an LC+2 K4.
Wow! Great news! I'm very excited. I've had some small doubts about moving forward with building a 2-rail layout when I heard MTH was going out of business. This makes it all better! Of course, this assumes they still offer the 2-rail versions which seems very likely. Sure, I would like to see them do steam as well, but we can't get greedy here.
What would be better is if they offered their own 2-rail models with PS3. I'm hoping to run all PS3 if possible, and DCC only when needed (on the new 2-rail layout). I haven't bought Atlas in the past because I don't buy floating pilots, TMCC and I couldn't run 2-rail with DCC (or didn't want to). If they install PS3 in their 2-rail models I'm sure I will be buying some especially the ones MTH did not make.
It would be great to see Andy, Rich and others from the MTH team be part of the acquisition.
Thank you Atlas!
Awesome news. Now we can wait 24 months for an even wider range of products to cross the Pacific.
@mike.caruso posted:Awesome news. Now we can wait 24 months for an even wider range of products to cross the Pacific.
LOL that's my concern. I'm sure we'll have a lot of questions for them at the next trains show.
Wonderful news.Finally something great news after a horrible year.God bless everyone.
Awesome news and I too, hope they continue with the 2-rail models!!!
This is great news for lots of reasons, to include keeping some competition for Lionel and maybe keeping DCS alive. But with only 2 first generation diesels, minimal older style freight cars, no steam, no R50, and one steel caboose (?), there is nothing that currently interests me. Hopefully other companies are picking up the rest of the tooling.
However, I don't think Atlas will be too upset when I don't buy these. My freight fleet is already over 50% Atlas, and that percentage is growing.
What about the C30-7? It's the only O gauge C30-7 out there.
The SD50 & SD45T-2 were 2nd generation Premier models (they have the convertible trucks to change to scale wheels).
Too bad about the FP45
Glad the SD45 will live on....Hopefully in SP Red/Gray
@raising4daughters posted:I agree with you, I will miss Rail King a lot, but hey, we can't have everything. At least our investment in DCS appears to be better protected going forward. That's peace of mind.
This move acquiring Premier but not Rail King adds further support to my belief that the middle of the hobby is getting reduced. Just not enough of us running semi/O27 scale that want the goodies that Lionmaster and Rail King Imperial offer. .
I understand it and respect the business side of that equation. Heck, I realize I'm part of the problem. I have about 25 engines.....9 conventional, 6 DCS, 1 LC, 1 LC+, and 8 TMCC. I don't need another engine. In fact, I'm planning on giving 3 of my TMCC engines to my daughter and soon-to-be-son-in-law this Christmas to get the hobby going further in the family.
Plus that makes room for an LC+2 K4.
I hear you. I think I may have one last MTH RailKing I'll buy while I can, and a set of passenger cars. But then it's LC+. I'm also a toy train guy and not a modeler, so there are certain LC Starter Sets that knock me out and I buy, particularly passenger sets. That Blue Comet Lionchief set from a bit back was a real winner, as was the Santa Fe set.
I can only add a belief here. Atlas has both 3 rail and 2 rail track. I could not believe that they would not keep offering 2 rail models to go with their line-up.
I have no info on their intentions here. So I have to guess.
Just going by past offerings.