Very nice, Pat! That black one is a curious beast. It looks to have a flatter finish than the regular tuscan or green examples. Never being a fan of the factory applied locomotive sheen, I've seriously thought about giving my early MTH scale GG1 ( tuscan 4876 ) a coat of glossy lacquer.
Enjoy those beauties,Pat!
Hi Pat, I also have that MTH 4829. When I posted pictures of my engine one of the forum members said it was not painted that way. BUT the fact IS nobody knows for sure. Another forum member contacted me. He was involved in a GG1 research project looking through the Heritage Society's records. He stated he/they could find NO information on 4829.
THe only picture I have found is published in "Pennsy Power III" taken May 22, 1937. They also included an enlargement of just the Motor.
I have been taking and developing film since I was 5-years old(am an original Baby-Boomer). Have looked at all the GG1 pictures in this volume. The stripes have a greater specularity then the other images. And the GG! body has a darker grey scale tone. BUT again nobody knows for sure!
A few years ago there was an article on the Pennsy in one f the real RR magazines. The writer quoted some fellows that had indeed seen 4829. They stated that the stripes were silver and body dark. (what is dark?)
Somewhere have a published picture taken not long after the 1937 picture with full gold stripes and appearing lighter grey scale tone of body.
BUT nobody knows,
Ron
crood58 posted:I also got this Weaver City of Altoona Fire Department Tank Car off the ebay over the weekend. Since, I'm a firefighter I had to have it and got it for a pretty good price. The mean reason I purchased it was I thought it would go good with my SD60E first responder diesel that should arrive this summer.
Chris
That's cool and will look great with your First Responders locomotive. MTH is also offering an Altoona Works fire truck (30-50091), in case you weren't aware.
Michigan and Ohio Lines,
Thanks! I love the tank car. Yes, I did see that MTH is offering the Fire Truck. I didn't preorder it, so will have to keep an eye out for it. I also think I'm going to order the First Responder GP MTH is going to make.
Chris
Just paid for this American Flyer trestle Bridge on the evilBay. Sure hope it is wide enough to fit a piece of Std. Gauge track!
Probably wide enough, I question the height. 
gunrunnerjohn posted:Probably wide enough, I question the height.
thanks, its was really the width that concerns me more than anything else right now.
atlayank posted:Hi, I recently bought the same bridge. The inside dimensions are 4 1/4" wide and 4 3/4" high.
Yours has a different roof on it than mine does. I wonder which one is correct?
He said it did not have a roof and he found one that works. I'm not a purist, and frankly I wouldn't know the difference anyway- it looks okay to me
Can you fit Std. Gauge engines under the top of it okay?
Pat Kn posted:I just received these two GG1s I bought on line.
The black one may not be prototypical (I think the prototype was brunswick green, which looked black in some light, with gold stripes.) but I think it is striking and I love it. 4829 was the only GG1 to get that type of stripping. I bought the green 5 stripe because I don't have a green 5 stripe and the price was right. Here is a picture of my 4 scale MTH GG1s (I also have a scale Williams GG1)
GG1's are my favorite engines. I remember seeing them run through Levittown, Bristol and Croydon Pa.
Can you fit Std. Gauge engines under the top of it okay?
I do not run STD Gauge but if they are 4 1/2" inches high or lower you should be okay.
PRRronbh posted:Hi Pat, I also have that MTH 4829. When I posted pictures of my engine one of the forum members said it was not painted that way. BUT the fact IS nobody knows for sure. Another forum member contacted me. He was involved in a GG1 research project looking through the Heritage Society's records. He stated he/they could find NO information on 4829.
THe only picture I have found is published in "Pennsy Power III" taken May 22, 1937. They also included an enlargement of just the Motor.
I have been taking and developing film since I was 5-years old(am an original Baby-Boomer). Have looked at all the GG1 pictures in this volume. The stripes have a greater specularity then the other images. And the GG! body has a darker grey scale tone. BUT again nobody knows for sure!
A few years ago there was an article on the Pennsy in one f the real RR magazines. The writer quoted some fellows that had indeed seen 4829. They stated that the stripes were silver and body dark. (what is dark?)
Somewhere have a published picture taken not long after the 1937 picture with full gold stripes and appearing lighter grey scale tone of body.
BUT nobody knows,
Ron
The book I have, "The Remarkable GG1" shows #4829 was built June 1935 by Baldwin / PRR / West, retired April 1967.
PRRronbh posted:Hi Pat, I also have that MTH 4829. When I posted pictures of my engine one of the forum members said it was not painted that way. BUT the fact IS nobody knows for sure. Another forum member contacted me. He was involved in a GG1 research project looking through the Heritage Society's records. He stated he/they could find NO information on 4829.
THe only picture I have found is published in "Pennsy Power III" taken May 22, 1937. They also included an enlargement of just the Motor.
I have been taking and developing film since I was 5-years old(am an original Baby-Boomer). Have looked at all the GG1 pictures in this volume. The stripes have a greater specularity then the other images. And the GG! body has a darker grey scale tone. BUT again nobody knows for sure!
A few years ago there was an article on the Pennsy in one f the real RR magazines. The writer quoted some fellows that had indeed seen 4829. They stated that the stripes were silver and body dark. (what is dark?)
Somewhere have a published picture taken not long after the 1937 picture with full gold stripes and appearing lighter grey scale tone of body.
BUT nobody knows,
Ron
Ron,
Thanks for the information. I had heard there was a controversy but everything I found had it listed as green. I have Pennsy Power II but to my knowledge there has never been a color picture of 4829. I agree with your "what is dark?" comment. DGLE is dark. So is black. I just assumed the color was DGLE which can be mistaken for black and the model was colored wrong. Regardless, although I like to be prototypically correct, the engine looks cool and I had to have it in my collection. 
Pat, I just received 2 powered trucks for a Williams non powered GG1 I want to power. You may have seen him at shows but I purchased many Williams parts from Charles Phillips.I will give his email if anyone needs items. kc97trainsmto@aol.com. He sends items out fast.
shurlock1 posted:Pat, I just received 2 powered trucks for a Williams non powered GG1 I want to power. You may have seen him at shows but I purchased many Williams parts from Charles Phillips.I will give his email if anyone needs items. kc97trainsmto@aol.com. He sends items out fast.
Thanks. I don't have a non-powered GG1. It's a shame that no one has used the tooling left behind by Williams for their scale GG1. The Williams Scale GG1 was a great engine. I have one and a past member of our club had one. They look great and don't require O-72 curves. They also run at a slower pace and do not have the jackrabbit starts of a lot of Williams engines. A great running and great looking scale classic engine with a big following for a reasonable price and nobody wants to (or can) make it. What a shame.
Pat when I get home from work I am going to see if MTH motors and gears will fit into trucks. Both companies must have used the same dies because everything looks so close next to each other. I am going to put a Mth Ps 1 system in it that I have from another engine I kitbashed.
SHURLOCK1, GRJ has put TMCC into a Williams GG1 he owns. I think he has put DCS in a Williams GG1 for a client and claims that both upgrades are fairly simple.
Carey TeaRose posted:Can you fit Std. Gauge engines under the top of it okay?
Remember, you need to fit the height of the track and engine. I'm thinking that 4 3/4" pretty low for Std Gauge. We have issues with 5" tunnel clearances for O-gauge!
A couple weeks late, but finally got around to filming the new Wheeling & Lake Erie steam I got to pull my rolling stock. Both the 2-6-6-2 Mallet (found new online) and 2-8-2 Mikado (from Pat) run well & are fairly good smokers, too.
I just received today a batch of old RR magazines with lots of photos and tomorrow I am going to get a big load of CTT magazines so I will have a lot of reading material. Both deals by the OGR forum.
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