Buy/Make Anything Cool Lately (Tinplate Version)

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Nice to see your work George, very well done !

I have repainted my Lionel 763e, not a perfect match but it will work for me.  Still have to find a matching tender, 2263w.

Daniel

Thank you for the kind words Daniel, Dennis and Dave.

Daniel, that looks really nice. These engines look too realistic for tinplate.

After painting, how did you do the lettering on the back of the cab? It looks rubber stamped. Also, does this engine require T-rail track due to the scale flanged wheels? 

George

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Nice to see your work George, very well done !

I have repainted my Lionel 763e, not a perfect match but it will work for me.  Still have to find a matching tender, 2263w.

Daniel

That looks very good Daniel. The nice thing is I think the 2263 is less costly than the 2226 diecast tender.  Just curious, have you been able to locate a Scalecraft tender for your orher Hudson yet?

This bridge just arrived today.

Joe Lyons posted:

This bridge just arrived today.

That’s Sunset Trains and Toys I’m guessing.

Steve

Steve,

You are correct.

Joe

Neat " 'lectric Pea" (PRR-P class )

Gives new meaning to being a Broadway Limted 

(RMT?)

George S posted:

Thank you for the kind words Daniel, Dennis and Dave.

Daniel, that looks really nice. These engines look too realistic for tinplate.

After painting, how did you do the lettering on the back of the cab? It looks rubber stamped. Also, does this engine require T-rail track due to the scale flanged wheels? 

George

Thank you George,

The lettering is the original one I preserved and just masked before painting, of course there is a small difference of color but not too bad.

The engine runs very well on tinplate tracks but 072 curves are needed, the center wheel is flanged on the 763e.

Maybe too realistic for tinplate but Lionel sold it with 2800 tinplate freight and also 2600 passenger cars and with the vanderbilt tender.

Dennis Holler posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

 

Nice to see your work George, very well done !

I have repainted my Lionel 763e, not a perfect match but it will work for me.  Still have to find a matching tender, 2263w.

Daniel

That looks very good Daniel. The nice thing is I think the 2263 is less costly than the 2226 diecast tender.  Just curious, have you been able to locate a Scalecraft tender for your orher Hudson yet?

Thanks Dennis, I will certainly find the tender on eBay or elsewhere and I prefer the 2263W for this engine, it will look nice with 2800 serie freight cars.

Still searching the Scale Craft tender.... i missed one on the bay recently, it will be certainly very hard to find one unfortunately. I tested the loco, it runs extremely smoothly, a great engine in regard of the manufacturing year, 1937. I just founded an original Scale Craft catalog recently, i would be happy to find some more pieces.

Any progress with you nice Marklin Pacific ?

Daniel

Joe Lyons posted:

This bridge just arrived today.

Very nice - what train is that on the bridge?

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

 

Nice to see your work George, very well done !

I have repainted my Lionel 763e, not a perfect match but it will work for me.  Still have to find a matching tender, 2263w.

Daniel

That looks very good Daniel. The nice thing is I think the 2263 is less costly than the 2226 diecast tender.  Just curious, have you been able to locate a Scalecraft tender for your orher Hudson yet?

Thanks Dennis, I will certainly find the tender on eBay or elsewhere and I prefer the 2263W for this engine, it will look nice with 2800 serie freight cars.

Still searching the Scale Craft tender.... i missed one on the bay recently, it will be certainly very hard to find one unfortunately. I tested the loco, it runs extremely smoothly, a great engine in regard of the manufacturing year, 1937. I just founded an original Scale Craft catalog recently, i would be happy to find some more pieces.

Any progress with you nice Marklin Pacific ?

Daniel

I regret that the Marklin has been sitting for a while.  Honestly, I have so many open projects that I am struggling to close a few.  But I will keep at it.  Eventually, I will get to the Marklin.  Maybe part of my problem is that I need to decide to either clean it up or completely restore it!..

The train on the bridge is made up of a shorty GG-1 which was made by John Daniels and presented as a gift to Bob McCoy.  You can't see it in the picture, but on one said it says "McCoy" and on the other "Daniels".  I picked this up from Bonnie McCoy a few years ago and recently got it running with a motor from Ira Keeler.  It is basically a cut down version of the Daniels GG-1 with the same motor and same problems.

The baggage (Beaver Falls) and passenger cars (Linden Falls, Spruce Falls, Aspen Falls) are the MTH Tinplate Traditions 330 series PRR trains named after the waterfalls.  The catalog#s for the set and the extra coach are 10-1212-1  and 10-5023.  The baggage car # is 10-5080.

Joe - thanks for the info. I wrongly assumed it was O gauge.

Very cool bridge and GG-1!

Bob Nelson

Dennis Holler posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

 

Thanks Dennis, I will certainly find the tender on eBay or elsewhere and I prefer the 2263W for this engine, it will look nice with 2800 serie freight cars.

Still searching the Scale Craft tender.... i missed one on the bay recently, it will be certainly very hard to find one unfortunately. I tested the loco, it runs extremely smoothly, a great engine in regard of the manufacturing year, 1937. I just founded an original Scale Craft catalog recently, i would be happy to find some more pieces.

Any progress with you nice Marklin Pacific ?

Daniel

I regret that the Marklin has been sitting for a while.  Honestly, I have so many open projects that I am struggling to close a few.  But I will keep at it.  Eventually, I will get to the Marklin.  Maybe part of my problem is that I need to decide to either clean it up or completely restore it!..

clean it up....glad I could help........

Well, another lot of cars and parts on the way.  11 bucks.  I just can never guess what will get bid on and what won't..  Good 261t, couple of 530's and a 629?? I might have the numbers reversed.  I had a 252 frame needing a cab so good there.....

you Da Man Dennis

Nice! When the parts arrive take a hard look at the blue 150 series cab, kinda curious if that's the original color??

John H. Shetler posted:

Nice! When the parts arrive take a hard look at the blue 150 series cab, kinda curious if that's the original color??

Can do. I was assuming a repaint. Was there a version like this?

The 152 came in peacock and Mohave but never saw any originals up close to compare. Not sure but think a rare version of 150 in peacock with handrails was made? Too bad no carriages to help ID

Joe Lyons posted:

This bridge just arrived today.

Another guy who's picking up some of Arno's stuff! 

Cool shorty GG1 too (or maybe closer to a P5A Modified)

Jim

Joe Lyons posted:

The train on the bridge is made up of a shorty GG-1 which was made by John Daniels and presented as a gift to Bob McCoy.  You can't see it in the picture, but on one said it says "McCoy" and on the other "Daniels".  I picked this up from Bonnie McCoy a few years ago and recently got it running with a motor from Ira Keeler.  It is basically a cut down version of the Daniels GG-1 with the same motor and same problems.

The baggage (Beaver Falls) and passenger cars (Linden Falls, Spruce Falls, Aspen Falls) are the MTH Tinplate Traditions 330 series PRR trains named after the waterfalls.  The catalog#s for the set and the extra coach are 10-1212-1  and 10-5023.  The baggage car # is 10-5080.

 

I noticed it started life out as a Daniels, but really cool to know that it involved both Daniels and Bob McCoy. I remotored mine recently (still with two motors), adapting a couple of NWSL G gauge units and a Dallee reversing unit. Glides down the track.  But looks scared when next to my Gold Standard GG1 (which is about twice as long and an inch taller)!

Jim

Jim,

I wish I had your skillset to get my Daniels GG-1 running as well.  One day.

Jim Waterman posted:

Joe Lyons posted:

This bridge just arrived today.

Another guy who's picking up some of Arno's stuff! 

Cool shorty GG1 too (or maybe closer to a P5A Modified)

Jim

I looked it up...unless I made a mistake it would be a P by wheel/axle count.

Hence the " 'lectric Pea" .

Pa5 might be closer than GG1 here but there were a bunch of similar shaped, but smaller prototypes that never made a second production.

OK, An ersatz P5a. Driver size is a little small. One of these days I want to build a more substantial one, but will probably stick with the Boxcab version.

Jim

Found these yesterday with original boxes ...

Got a mojave Lionel 318E with coaches as an early Birthday present.

Karl Bub O gauge clockwork 4-4-0 American Type steam loco. Missing the headlight, but runs great. These Karl Bub pieces seem to be very underappreciated, I think they're quite nice (and they seem to sell for modest prices compared to Marklin and Bing). I wonder what year this would have been from- is there a KBN book out there? Also attached is a picture of what I believe my missing headlight looks like- it has two pins that mount it into a pair of corresponding holes on the boiler. Doesn't look too hard to make, would be a good 3D print piece.

nice!

This arrived yesterday to enhance the enjoyment of my weekend.  All of my pre-war tinplate is either Lionel or Marklin, and I’ve never been greatly excited by Hornby.  However here in Australia Hornby dominated the market, so there’s lots available.  I saw this signal box / switch tower and just had to have it!  It’s actually closer to a local prototype.

I managed to straighten a few corners that were bent.  It looks like the roof has been removed at some point as one of the tabs is not inserted into the slot.  Now I have to decide whether to risk removing the roof again to fix the loose chimney and clean the inside.

Guy

John Smatlak posted:

Karl Bub O gauge clockwork 4-4-0 American Type steam loco. Missing the headlight, but runs great. These Karl Bub pieces seem to be very underappreciated, I think they're quite nice (and they seem to sell for modest prices compared to Marklin and Bing). I wonder what year this would have been from- is there a KBN book out there?

There is a catalog on Bub in the Schiffmann (German) series: http://www.schiffmann-verlag.d...erkataloge/Band9.php. I assume your locomotive is from around 1925, here is a simpler version: https://www.historytoy.com/Bub...w-catcher-locomotive.

Regards

Fred

O Gauge Guy posted:

This arrived yesterday to enhance the enjoyment of my weekend.  All of my pre-war tinplate is either Lionel or Marklin, and I’ve never been greatly excited by Hornby.  However here in Australia Hornby dominated the market, so there’s lots available.  I saw this signal box / switch tower and just had to have it!  It’s actually closer to a local prototype.

 

I managed to straighten a few corners that were bent.  It looks like the roof has been removed at some point as one of the tabs is not inserted into the slot.  Now I have to decide whether to risk removing the roof again to fix the loose chimney and clean the inside.

 

Guy

Since it does not have a hinged roof this looks not like a prewar version (No 2E Signal Cabin), but like a postwar version (No 2 Signal Cabin) which was made with this orange roof colour from 1955-57. It is a nice accessory anyway, but as you can see on my (green roofed) version it does not like the sun.

Regards

Fred

sncf231e posted:

O Gauge Guy posted:

This arrived yesterday to enhance the enjoyment of my weekend.  All of my pre-war tinplate is either Lionel or Marklin, and I’ve never been greatly excited by Hornby.  However here in Australia Hornby dominated the market, so there’s lots available.  I saw this signal box / switch tower and just had to have it!  It’s actually closer to a local prototype.

 

I managed to straighten a few corners that were bent.  It looks like the roof has been removed at some point as one of the tabs is not inserted into the slot.  Now I have to decide whether to risk removing the roof again to fix the loose chimney and clean the inside.

 

Guy

Since it does not have a hinged roof this looks not like a prewar version (No 2E Signal Cabin), but like a postwar version (No 2 Signal Cabin) which was made with this orange roof colour from 1955-57. It is a nice accessory anyway, but as you can see on my (green roofed) version it does not like the sun.

Regards

Fred

Thank you for this helpful information Fred.  Yes, the sun is doing some damage.  I've seen these with a red roof, a green roof and a blue roof - also an aqua-cyan roof, although maybe this one was faded.  From a 1935 and 1956 catalogue:

I. Bought a D224 Lionel display la6out

Is that the one from the Stout auction?   Your a madman!!!!!!!!!!   can't wait to see that one too.

Yep although I did not think I would get it 

Dennis Holler posted:

Is that the one from the Stout auction?   Your a madman!!!!!!!!!!   can't wait to see that one too.

I watched the prices from the stout auctions, particularly the Saturday one.  Too rich for my blood right now.  I but in a handful of low ball offers hoping something would stick but no luck.  It seemed like almost everything was selling way above estimate, especially the paper items.  The 763E's available looked great, but right now one of the cars I drive is worth less than the selling price!

Interesting to review history of some of these items as they are unique enough to see a history of selling. This layout at one time had the original box and sold around $3600and then another one sold for $4800. I felt the high estimate of $1200 was LOW, as were many presale estimates but that is part of the auction psychology. If pre sale estimate too high then why bid. O feel what I paid was fair especially as the auction is close enough for me to drive up and pick up my self, and this is another one that will need some refurbishment!

Tunnel is challenge here but I am thinking about making an internal support out of Celastic to reestablish strength and allow patching of felt. These later mountains are a much simpler coloration of primarily a dark brown with some green paint and grass. Will clean track in tunnel through access hole and portals and get it back up and running!! 

jhz563 posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

Is that the one from the Stout auction?   Your a madman!!!!!!!!!!   can't wait to see that one too.

I watched the prices from the stout auctions, particularly the Saturday one.  Too rich for my blood right now.  I but in a handful of low ball offers hoping something would stick but no luck.  It seemed like almost everything was selling way above estimate, especially the paper items.  The 763E's available looked great, but right now one of the cars I drive is worth less than the selling price!

I have won items in three Stout auctions this year. Yes, the prices seem a little high, but I am buying items that don't show up on eBay very often. Sometimes you need to pay for rarity or condition. Also, I figure, this being an auction, that the item was worth about what I was willing to pay, or maybe the bid amount just before mine. 

I'll post pictures of my recent winnings when they arrive.

George

Daughter and son in law ordered this on Zulily. Came on sat in a huge box. About the size of a train set. When they opened the box  They were just as surprised as I was because when my daughter ordered it she thought it was gonna be a little tiny thing and it's about the size of a regular street sign and it actually is a little rustic it's pretty cool look in. I wanna do pay them for it and she said dad don't worry about it it was only 8 bucks! Score!!

Joe Gozzo

Trainlover160 posted:

Daughter and son in law ordered this on Zulily. Came on sat in a huge box. About the size of a train set. When they opened the box  They were just as surprised as I was because when my daughter ordered it she thought it was gonna be a little tiny thing and it's about the size of a regular street sign and it actually is a little rustic it's pretty cool look in. I wanna do pay them for it and she said dad don't worry about it it was only 8 bucks! Score!!

Joe Gozzo

Cool, Joe.  Looks legit!

George S posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Nice to see your work George, very well done !

I have repainted my Lionel 763e, not a perfect match but it will work for me.  Still have to find a matching tender, 2263w.

Daniel

Thank you for the kind words Daniel, Dennis and Dave.

Daniel, that looks really nice. These engines look too realistic for tinplate.

After painting, how did you do the lettering on the back of the cab? It looks rubber stamped. Also, does this engine require T-rail track due to the scale flanged wheels? 

George

George,

 What a beautiful job on the engine.  I was just getting use the idea that you made the door for the Box car that came out really nice.

 I have always wanted to get one of these what is it happy running on 54 or 0 72?

Joe Gozzo

Hi Joe, it if's like the modern 783/785's it'll run on 042 if you swap the front truck for the later non scale version otherwise Lionel would say 072.  I do remember reading an article in CTT where a modeler did some experimentation and determined he could get his to run on something like 063 ..... but that is not verified.

The large front wheels are one of the main problems though.

I managed to find this American flyer 510 Prewar diecast  MP stock car on ebay in the n scale listings. I assume because of where I found it, I was lucky to get it for 8.99 as it looks to be in pretty good shape.  This is normally  a pretty tough car to find in good shape.  The funny part is that it was listed as an Atlas  MP 510 stock car.

A work in process, but it will be a super smooth Unique Art Litho Rock Island diesel set when done. For now I’ll live with a rather large height difference between the power unit and the dummy. UA used drivers about the size of 200 series wheels.

Steve

didn't know Flyer did die cast cars, nice find Dennis

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

A work in process, but it will be a super smooth Unique Art Litho Rock Island diesel set when done. For now I’ll live with a rather large height difference between the power unit and the dummy. UA used drivers about the size of 200 series wheels.

Steve

 

Great idea, Steve, maybe power both units!
Jim

Was $40 too much?  2035, 2055, 249E... junk stuff  but hey...  I'll be curious to see if they pack this mess carefully enough to keep from breaking any of those perfect marker lights on the postwar locos....

Dennis Holler posted:

Was $40 too much?  2035, 2055, 249E... junk stuff  but hey...  I'll be curious to see if they pack this mess carefully enough to keep from breaking any of those perfect marker lights on the postwar locos....

Hey Dennis, I would be interested in that  squared off tender if the shell is in good shape

John

POC914NUT posted:

Steve, looks like we need to get the 084 out again soon! Very nice!

Eric, are you setting up next week at SW?

Steve

Dennis I gave $30 for a box of 2025/2035 stuff at a show last winter. I had one together and running an hour after I got home. The other had a couple damaged drivers, and some missing rods, but otherwise complete. I'd say you got the shaft..........

Steamer posted:

Dennis I gave $30 for a box of 2025/2035 stuff at a show last winter. I had one together and running an hour after I got home. The other had a couple damaged drivers, and some missing rods, but otherwise complete. I'd say you got the shaft..........

I figured that would be the case. 😂 that’ll be the benchmark. If two locos will work, maybe I win 😎

well the 675 type shells go for $20 on da bay....so I'd say you did well. When I saw that Marx tank car..I thought" hope it only has one end.." since I have one like that already.

This is a Marx 35461 Pacific Fruit Express tinplate car I picked up earlier this year at local Hobby shop for $8.  I needed another Marx car for my Marx 999 tinplate set that had more color than my plain brown box car that came with the set.

Charlie

Choo Choo Charlie posted:

 

This is a Marx 35461 Pacific Fruit Express tinplate car I picked up earlier this year at local Hobby shop for $8.  I needed another Marx car for my Marx 999 tinplate set that had more color than my plane brown box car that came with the set.

Charlie

 

It’s not like I really like those, only have 20 of them. 

Steve

20???? no wonder I can't find one around here!

$8 Charlie? you was robbed! I'll be right over and give you your money back! 

Thats like me and 2454 PRR boxcars or 3659 dump cars...... I just woke up one day and had a bunch of them... I don’t know how it happened.... honest...

Dennis Holler posted:

Thats like me and 2454 PRR boxcars or 3659 dump cars...... I just woke up one day and had a bunch of them... I don’t know how it happened.... honest...

🤣

Steamer posted:

20???? no wonder I can't find one around here!

Now I’m trying to corner all the 9100 UP Challengers.

Steve

An update on my recently arrived Lionel standard gauge "Baby State" set- I successfully changed out the two bad wheels on the locomotive using my Home Depot wheel puller for removing the warped wheels (acquired thanks to a tip here on the forum https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...d-gauge-wheel-puller) and finished cleaning it up- it runs and looks great. The most interesting thing about it for me is the construction of the 318E locomotive; it is one of the "Build-a-Loco" family and has a bus bar that connects the lights to the power chassis- no wires, very neat. The spring-loaded pin that makes the connection between the bus bar and the power unit is also incorporated into the pickup plate, an arrangement that proved troublesome for Lionel (and was replaced) as heat degraded the spring over time and the contact became flaky- I have a steam loco that had this problem until I replaced the pickup plate assembly).

Videos:

Steve,

I was watching one of your older YouTube videos the other day and it looks like you also have the market cornered on Marx 6 inch Red Bogota and Montclair coaches. 

Joe Lyons posted:

Steve,

I was watching one of your older YouTube videos the other day and it looks like you also have the market cornered on Marx 6 inch Red Bogota and Montclair coaches. 

 

I pulled those from a number of sets for that video. Being as they are four wheel, all those sets are gone. CP Bob bought the last set.

Steve

O Gauge Guy posted:

sncf231e posted:

O Gauge Guy posted:

This arrived yesterday to enhance the enjoyment of my weekend.  All of my pre-war tinplate is either Lionel or Marklin, and I’ve never been greatly excited by Hornby.  However here in Australia Hornby dominated the market, so there’s lots available.  I saw this signal box / switch tower and just had to have it!  It’s actually closer to a local prototype.

 

I managed to straighten a few corners that were bent.  It looks like the roof has been removed at some point as one of the tabs is not inserted into the slot.  Now I have to decide whether to risk removing the roof again to fix the loose chimney and clean the inside.

 

Guy

Since it does not have a hinged roof this looks not like a prewar version (No 2E Signal Cabin), but like a postwar version (No 2 Signal Cabin) which was made with this orange roof colour from 1955-57. It is a nice accessory anyway, but as you can see on my (green roofed) version it does not like the sun.

Regards

Fred

Thank you for this helpful information Fred.  Yes, the sun is doing some damage.  I've seen these with a red roof, a green roof and a blue roof - also an aqua-cyan roof, although maybe this one was faded.  From a 1935 and 1956 catalogue:

The holiday weekend provided some time to check another project off the list- adding a light to my Hornby Signal Cabin. Not sure if Hornby ever did this with this particular accessory, but the lever frame inside needed lighting! The socket and wire were secured in place with bits of hot glue, so it is easily reversible should a future owner of the piece not want to have it. For more details on the lever frame inside, see my post of 8/7/18: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...16#80551019625758116 Now I just need to find the tower operator figure to go inside!

Got some 337/338 STD Pullman cars on the way... $25 plus shipping.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

A work in process, but it will be a super smooth Unique Art Litho Rock Island diesel set when done. For now I’ll live with a rather large height difference between the power unit and the dummy. UA used drivers about the size of 200 series wheels.

Steve

 

The transplant is done. 

Well Dave was right although I didn’t realize it myselfe at the time. Daniel and I made a trade, Scale craft K4 and some cars for the Erector Hudson. This forum really is great. Neither of us mentioned $$ once. It was simple, Daniel saw my interest in it and offered it up. I remembered he had mentioned he’d like to find a Scalecraft K4 and so I offered one back and the deal was done simple as that. Here it is after I opened it up. It’s a big project to be sure, but man is it cool. 😁 we new it was missing a few parts, a big one is the firebox wrapper but I think I can make one from brass or sheet metal for now. I may start a thread for this since I’ve never seen one on here as well. Couldn’t happen without Daniel’s generosity, I hope we can meet some day face to face. I promiss I’ll get the K4 in shape and over to you as quickly as I can.

I'll be watching for my commission then.........

that would make a cool display at an engine house of a steamer getting major work until you get to it

Dennis Holler posted:

 

 

Well Dave was right although I didn’t realize it myselfe at the time. Daniel and I made a trade, Scale craft K4 and some cars for the Erector Hudson. This forum really is great. Neither of us mentioned $$ once. It was simple, Daniel saw my interest in it and offered it up. I remembered he had mentioned he’d like to find a Scalecraft K4 and so I offered one back and the deal was done simple as that. Here it is after I opened it up. It’s a big project to be sure, but man is it cool. 😁 we new it was missing a few parts, a big one is the firebox wrapper but I think I can make one from brass or sheet metal for now. I may start a thread for this since I’ve never seen one on here as well. Couldn’t happen without Daniel’s generosity, I hope we can meet some day face to face. I promiss I’ll get the K4 in shape and over to you as quickly as I can.

 

Hi Dennis, 

Nice to see it at home now and very pleased you like it. Shipping has been fast, just a week to arrive from France to USA is fine.

You will have a lot of work to do on that baby but i think it is one more great project.... It will need some time to do it but it is relatively simple i think. Please post a trade it would be great to see the progress on the restoration.

Now ...... you will have to talk to Dave about his commission,  0+0 = 0   No money, sorry for you.

For the K4, no urgency at all i have also some projects running, more or less fast ....

Enjoy the return in your country of that hudson, and next trip in USA maybe i will do a visit...

All my best wishes,  Daniel

who needs money Daniel...I work for rusty trains!

That would be great Daniel, I might get to France as well you never know! This will be a fun one I think.

Steamer posted:

who needs money Daniel...I work for rusty trains!

and you know I have a couple of those....a couple here, a couple there... well you know...

Steamer posted:

who needs money Daniel...I work for rusty trains!

Rusty trains are rusty gold for us Dave  

Daniel

vines are much more believable as scale timber than tree branches.
i also hate seeing empty tenders...

the only other material needed is white glue and a business card for the base.
also good for backyard log piles.

cheers...gary

overlandflyer posted:

vines are much more believable as scale timber than tree branches.
i also hate seeing empty tenders...

the only other material needed is white glue and a business card for the base.
also good for backyard log piles.

cheers...gary

great idea!

My newly arrived American Flyer O gauge Hudson (2-6-4). Posing alongside is a Flyer 1686/4629-729 Type XXI streamlined 2-4-4 steam loco. Looking the Hudson up in the Greenburg American Flyer prewar book, it appears to match the photo on page 59 of a 1936-39 1680/4680 Type XII locomotive (B) with 1620 Type XI tender. However, it has a vertical firebox light (as opposed to a horizontal one), so perhaps it is another closely related variant. These engines have many of the interesting Flyer O gauge steam loco features such as a front coupler, and a very long tender drawbar that is attaches to a pin on the engine's trailing truck (instead of a pin under the back of the cab). Also the rear truck on the engine only has one wheelset in it, although it's made to look like it has two. The tender has a whistle, but it's designed to actuate off Flyer's 5-rail whistle track section so I haven't tried it yet.

The engine is original with some minor touch-ups, and the motor runs and reverses great. The front truck is somewhat troublesome (it likes to derail), but overall it's a sharp looking engine. Also, something's up with the front headlight- although I installed a tested working bulb, it won't come on.  Now I need to find some Flyer heavyweight Pullmans to go with it! 

John Smatlak posted:

My newly arrived American Flyer O gauge Hudson (2-6-4). Posing alongside is a Flyer 1686/4629-729 Type XXI streamlined 2-4-4 steam loco. Looking the Hudson up in the Greenburg American Flyer prewar book, it appears to match the photo on page 59 of a 1936-39 1680/4680 Type XII locomotive (B) with 1620 Type XI tender. However, it has a vertical firebox light (as opposed to a horizontal one), so perhaps it is another closely related variant. These engines have many of the interesting Flyer O gauge steam loco features such as a front coupler, and a very long tender drawbar that is attaches to a pin on the engine's trailing truck (instead of a pin under the back of the cab). Also the rear truck on the engine only has one wheelset in it, although it's made to look like it has two. The tender has a whistle, but it's designed to actuate off Flyer's 5-rail whistle track section so I haven't tried it yet.

The engine is original with some minor touch-ups, and the motor runs and reverses great. The front truck is somewhat troublesome (it likes to derail), but overall it's a sharp looking engine. Also, something's up with the front headlight- although I installed a tested working bulb, it won't come on.  Now I need to find some Flyer heavyweight Pullmans to go with it! 

love these ,I have two,,,this and a later one with cast tender,,,yes the bugger like to derail, I bought a new truck ,same,and I run it on af oguage 40" ,will have to try it back on the fastrack I totally love af ogauge !

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

Better go pick it up!

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

Beautiful!!  Steve this is my holy Grail piece congratulations I hope someday I can find one as nice hope you enjoy it

Joe Gozzo

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

I was watching that and thinking the same. Almost pulled the trigger... Glad it's going to a good home!

George

George S posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

I was watching that and thinking the same. Almost pulled the trigger... Glad it's going to a good home!

George

I was surprised there wasn't more action. Wasn't cheap, but far less than some have gone for.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

George S posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

 

I was watching that and thinking the same. Almost pulled the trigger... Glad it's going to a good home!

George

I was surprised there wasn't more action. Wasn't cheap, but far less than some have gone for.

Steve

Yes, it was a more than reasonable price in such great condition. I think the guy said it went for almost twice that much when it was new. I have just depleted my train funds lately. I'm sitting on a bunch of stuff I need to sell, but I'm waiting for the Summer doldrums of the train market to end.

George

Another project, a set of Ives 141/142 Pullman cars.  Think missing one roof but should be a nice set some day.  Maybe match my 1122 lol  Have to figure out what color to make em! $22.27 no one wanted em?

 Excellent  Dennis, another project to work on.  I hope you will find the missing roof, wheels are not a problem.

Daniel

Thanks Daniel, Can't work on em till I get a certain K4 done though .  Think I finally figured out how I can fix the insulated wheels that came apart.  Long story, I'll send you an email later this weekend hopefully.

I woulda bid if I had seen them....I think some guy from Indiana has me blocked.....just as well...was out cutting grass and the mower died...think a connecting rod broke.

those will be nice Dennis...

The market must just be down, or what I thought was a good deal isn't that great anymore lol, There are some nicer cars on right now too for 3 times as much with a few days left...  I think I've seen loose roofs lately, of course, now that I want one probably won't be as easy!

well after you've pulled you're hair out looking for a roof I'll make you an offer.....

I would think a Lionel roof would work too?

who knows, They might end up in Ohio... seems to be a magnet over there somewhere

Next time, I'll go ahead and win that 615 baggage car for you and send it your way

Kidding, kidding

kidding heck...shoulda let you get it...then got it from you.

Wife just got home with a late birthday present...not tinplate, but for a tinplate layout. Dodge L600 auto transport. came with a '66 Hemi Charger. I added The King and Doc Hudson.

That is way cool Dave, who makes it? Looks like a really nice  model. Diecast I'm guessing?

M2 Machines...available at you local Wally World. I've got several cars made by them. "50s to '60s stuff. Nice detail, about $5 or a little less for a car. You can see a couple parked by the Church and Post Office.

Steamer posted:

kidding heck...shoulda let you get it...then got it from you.

Wife just got home with a late birthday present...not tinplate, but for a tinplate layout. Dodge L600 auto transport. came with a '66 Hemi Charger. I added The King and Doc Hudson.

 

Happy belated birthday Dave!

George

Dennis Holler posted:

The market must just be down, or what I thought was a good deal isn't that great anymore lol, There are some nicer cars on right now too for 3 times as much with a few days left...  I think I've seen loose roofs lately, of course, now that I want one probably won't be as easy!

I think Hennings might even have them for those cars. They should look nice when redone.

George

Here's an item for you guys to buy... In Stout's auction next weekend in Indiana, there is a Lionel Tuscan 813 rubber stamped lettering with the original box! I read that there are only 12 of these in existence. Although, I happened to see 4 of them on eBay one year.

Go get it guys! This one could go for over $2,000! I won't be bidding sadly.

George

P.S. Remember that if you buy online and pay with a credit card, your buyer's fee will be $400 if the car sells for $2,000. 

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

And the answer is no. Very poorly packed.

Steve

dang I hate that. It's not rocket science to properly pack stuff.

Arrrrrggggh! 

Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's very uncool.  Due to poor packing or just extreme poor luck in shipment?

That's terrible! You'd think for $45 in shipping the seller would have packed it better. I thought the legs would be the hardest to protect, but there's no excuse for the base. The damage under the roof is odd, since the roof seems fine itself. 

So sorry Steve.

George

If you decide to keep it, You can probably straighten the tin on the cab with pliers. Tape the area with electrical tape to protect the paint and gently bend. Not sure about the legs. You can glue the base with JB Weld, but you will see the crack and touch up paint. 

George

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

And the answer is no. Very poorly packed.

Steve

Steve,

So sorry to hear. My guess he did not wrap and pack due to higher shipping costs. I would open a case with PayPal. They will make sure he sends you a call tag for a full refund.

Joe Gozzo

  That's sad.

   Two weeks ago I saw a FedEx joker throwing boxes on a hand cart with his hand guiding and slamming them home from above; like they were basketballs being dribbled. 

  And this was after he used his truck's shadow, motor revs, and tailgating, to intimidate all the old ladies out of the circle drive so he could park at the foot of the handicap ramp to the main entrance at the medical center. He was there for twenty minutes, making folks that couldn't hobble down have to wait on him.  

  Had my big mouth not been to the dentist, I sure would have loved using it that day.  The whole time I was thinking of the last Dorfan copy I saw damaged in shipping here.  People really suck sometimes 

Steve,

Thats too bad.

“...oh, the humanity....”

Sorry to see that.  I am convinced that package deliverers intentionally try to damage packages.

Looks like it’s crying.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

And the answer is no. Very poorly packed.

Steve

The guy had 0 feedback score so is new to Ebay.

He charged $45.00  shipping, his actual cost was $66.00. He said he paid extra for special handling. Fragile stickers all over the box.

I got it at a really good price so I will keep it and repair. It works, just won't be quite as pristine.

He has filed a claim with the USPS.

He is offering a $100.00 refund. Hopefully he does it.

The box has some minor damage, not too bad so it was not abused excessivly. The box was literally the same length as the crane so the base and roof were wedged against the box ends. He did wrap it well, but with the tight fit in the box, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

Steve

If you change your mind and want to find a more perfect one, I will take it off your hands for what you paid less the $100 refund. 

George

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big question is will it get here unbroken.

Steve

And the answer is no. Very poorly packed.

Steve

The guy had 0 feedback score so is new to Ebay.

He charged $45.00  shipping, his actual cost was $66.00. He said he paid extra for special handling. Fragile stickers all over the box.

I got it at a really good price so I will keep it and repair. It works, just won't be quite as pristine.

He has filed a claim with the USPS.

He is offering a $100.00 refund. Hopefully he does it.

The box has some minor damage, not too bad so it was not abused excessivly. The box was literally the same length as the crane so the base and roof were wedged against the box ends. He did wrap it well, but with the tight fit in the box, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

Steve

 

I wish people would learn how to box things and ship them. I want to Linal train said I need a want to have a little he just threw the trains in a box with some scraps of Styrofoam in their answer is just file a claim. I was lucky enough to get the door fan crane and first offered by TReproductions and he came wrapped very nicely and package the Styrofoam however even with that over the years one of the legs is cracked

Serious junk.. 19 inch long  1928 Bing No1 gauge Pullmans.  Two of them, one missing it's top.  I think the numbers are 10/529 or 10/530...  Do I have any other 1 gauge stuff??? ..... No.... not yet....

Not sure how tough these cars are to find, but I've only seen them in auction pictures and such.  I will restore these.

Steve, I'm glad it's sort of working out for you.  I've been in that situation too, 

what the heck do people do with passenger car roofs? seems like there is always some car with MIA roofs.

Dennis Holler posted:

.  Do I have any other 1 gauge stuff??? ..... No.... not yet....

 

nice find Dennis

Dennis Holler posted:

Serious junk.. 19 inch long  1928 Bing No1 gauge Pullmans.  Two of them, one missing it's top.  I think the numbers are 10/529 or 10/530...  Do I have any other 1 gauge stuff??? ..... No.... not yet....

Not sure how tough these cars are to find, but I've only seen them in auction pictures and such.  I will restore these.

I have some track and an LGB transformer. Bring it up and we'll run some trains! I have some engines to pull those too, but not the right era...

George

Now if I can only find the correct Bing engine.... and afford it.

Dennis Holler posted:

Serious junk.. 19 inch long  1928 Bing No1 gauge Pullmans.  Two of them, one missing it's top.  I think the numbers are 10/529 or 10/530...  Do I have any other 1 gauge stuff??? ..... No.... not yet....

 

Not sure how tough these cars are to find, but I've only seen them in auction pictures and such.  I will restore these.

 

Hi Dennis.

Based on this catalog page and my rusty German, what you have is the 10/538/1 - the Speisewagen (trip or tour coach).  The 10/539/X is the Schlaffwagen (Sleeping coach).  Based on your length of 19" I assign the /1 designation because the /0 is 13.75" long.  I converted the metric descriptions in the catalog.

Nice find.  Have fun cleaning them up and restoring them.  I'm betting with your skills you can cut/stamp/replicate your own roof based on a template from the one you have.

Good luck with that locomotive <smile>.

U the man Dennis!  Keep us posted on the search for the engine!  Not nearly as rare but still a nice rescue from the rust bucket/bin of used stuff- had to paint the bases of the telegraph poles but the rest cleaned up pretty good. Probably paid too much at $20 but got some parts along with.

Dennis Holler posted:

Now if I can only find the correct Bing engine.... and afford it.

Dennis take a look on eBay in Germany, there is some Bing gauge one, but be carefull the pieces offered are sometime not so good..... the best ones are for sale in large auction houses.

And after Bing there is Marklin..... gauge one is great but may be very expensive. Some nice sets are affordables as this one from Marklin in 1928-29.

Daniel

Thanks guys!  I know they are in junk condition, but I'm excited, I think in good condition, these are way above my pay grade! I managed to find them on ebay and those are the auction pictures,,,, made an offer of $50 and he took it.  They had actually been listed several times, and I just finally said go for it since I knew what they were. 

John, I love those signs! 

Daniel, That Marklin is great as well.  I think I just saw a similar passenger car here on US ebay, will have to take another look.

Thanks Byrdie, I'll do my best.... my project mountain is still growing!!

George, You never know, might get up there some time!

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

Now if I can only find the correct Bing engine.... and afford it.

Dennis take a look on eBay in Germany, there is some Bing gauge one, but be carefull the pieces offered are sometime not so good..... the best ones are for sale in large auction houses.

And after Bing there is Marklin..... gauge one is great but may be very expensive. Some nice sets are affordables as this one from Marklin in 1928-29.

Daniel

Hi Daniel,

Is the three rail gauge one track the same width as the LGB two-rail? I forgot that Bing and Marklin ran gauge one on three rail track. Is it hard to find the track? Is there a modern manufacturer?

Kind Regards,

George

Here you go Dennis... If you can't find Bing, you can go with Accucraft. 

https://www.accucraftestore.co...arly-emblem-electric

It might set you back a little...

George

George S posted

 

Daniel

Hi Daniel,

Is the three rail gauge one track the same width as the LGB two-rail? I forgot that Bing and Marklin ran gauge one on three rail track. Is it hard to find the track? Is there a modern manufacturer?

Kind Regards,

George

Hello George,  

Yes the original Marklin tracks have the same width as LGB and you can run old gauge one cars on them. The tracks by themselves are not always easy to find especially the Marklin progress ones, illustrated on the pictures, they sell for 10-15 € each in good condition. You can find modern tracks in Germany, i have never seen them on eBay but they are also expensives;  same price as the old original ones or  even more. Electro switches also command high prices, must be around a hundred each.

Very best,   Daniel

Here's a billboard I made for my standard gauge floor layout.  I made the frame in my shop one afternoon and used some leftover radiator screen to add some bling to it.  I finally got around to taking a screen saver shot for the photo,  had it printed 5x7 and secured it in place with 4 window glazing points.

George S posted:

Here you go Dennis... If you can't find Bing, you can go with Accucraft. 

https://www.accucraftestore.co...arly-emblem-electric

It might set you back a little...

George

Oh, I've never posted my live steam projects here lol...

JohnnieWalker posted:

Here's a billboard I made for my standard gauge floor layout.  I made the frame in my shop one afternoon and used some leftover radiator screen to add some bling to it.  I finally got around to taking a screen saver shot for the photo,  had it printed 5x7 and secured it in place with 4 window glazing points.

Love it!!!!

Not really a tinplate train, but it could have carried them back in the day...

Plus it matches my Dorfan

quite some time ago i picked up a few bags of various O scale ties at a train show that were on sale and every so often when i'm watching a video or just enjoying a sunny day on the patio, i'll break out the white glue & an X-acto knife and make a crate or a pallet.  the barrels are just a collection odd lots over the years...

background clutter for pictures or flatcar/ gondola loads to add some life to a train.

fun stuff! ... gary

went to my first estate sale today. Took The Boss, and we both had a great time. And she spent more than I did, so that's good . The only train stuff I didn't get was some Prewar Lionel, with boxes, that I already had. There was a train board, that had a Circus set up on, with a straight section of track, included a 671 and tender, Marx 999 no tender, a couple Postwar Lionel cars, and a Postwar Flyer car. The bidding quickly went for more than  i was interested in, so I left before it sold. Got enough track for storage lines, a Marx PRR 3/16 Gondola I didn't have,some other Marx 3/16 cars I already have, a 999 and tender, a couple Prewar Lionel cars,some MPC stuff, and a neat home made or kit car with Lionel trucks. There were several box lots of Tootsie Toy,Midge, and other cars and trucks. I won one box. There was a lot of interest in these. I'll be posting the stuff I don't want in the for sale forum. Sorry for the crappy pics, I didn't want to wait to go downstairs to go thru everything.

Way cool Dave!!  Nice haul!  And to be able to involve the boss and have her happy too, well that's just priceless!

The loving wife got me a set of Lionel 18, 19, and 190 coaches in green, pretty good shape. Now I have to figure out what loco t look for to pull them.

Picked this up yesterday from The Imperial Train Company. 

I think it will go well with this...

MartyE posted:

Picked this up yesterday from The Imperial Train Company. 

I think it will go well with this...

Awe some Marty! Were cars separate from loco? Can't remember. Did you work with Regis on set. He is great to work with!

Joe Gozzo

The 263E was separate sale from the passenger cars. 

The 255E was issued about 8 years ago and most of the cars were DAP cars.

i was the 263 in the last catalog and Regis got it for me.

Did they hit the same hue of Orange on the new loco?  Just curious as I bought some 1685/6/7 Pullmans and the Red was darn near Pink....  It really surprised me as I swear I had seen plenty of those MTH cars and nice red. It really caught me off guard.  I assume it must have just been a poor batch of paint or something.  Anyway, not really related, but I'm curious as to how consistent they have been on all those short run Orange cars.

Thanks,

Recent ebay find.  Looks like the same motor  used in a postwar 221 Dreyfus.  A real screamer (high speed-low drag). Need to find some cars now.   Fendermain

Dennis Holler posted:

Did they hit the same hue of Orange on the new loco?  Just curious as I bought some 1685/6/7 Pullmans and the Red was darn near Pink....  It really surprised me as I swear I had seen plenty of those MTH cars and nice red. It really caught me off guard.  I assume it must have just been a poor batch of paint or something.  Anyway, not really related, but I'm curious as to how consistent they have been on all those short run Orange cars.

 

Thanks,

To me the 2 sets definitely share the same orange.

My newest large tinplate structure. Metttoy Emergency Ward 10 Hospital. Needs some work, but I picked it up on the cheap considering these can go for a do do load of $$$$. Need to use the lower tower to make a copy for the missing top tower.

Steve

That's nice Steve.  I've always thought that was a really cool piece.

Finishing up repro of d187

Interesting Marklin British wagon... 2875

Will have to make some doors and add some wheels, but the price was right!

O Gauge Dennis?

I think.  Hard to tell by the auction.   Nothing to judge the length by. I think they made it both ways.  I'm pretty sure it is the O version, the couplers are pretty good size.  We'll see when it gets here. Price was good enough I didn't care and no one else bid again????!!

I finally managed to buy a McCoy Black Diamond Short Line set. It came with a version of the log car that I have never seen. Now all I have to find is the correct engine to go with the cars.

POC914NUT posted:

I finally managed to buy a McCoy Black Diamond Short Line set. It came with a version of the log car that I have never seen. Now all I have to find is the correct engine to go with the cars.

Sold my spare to Bob a few months ago.

Steve

No.652 gondola with barrels- lovingly played with but not abused. Just the way I like them.  Ebay find-1st car to go with the torpedo. It is getting an inspection before going into service.       Fendermain

The big brown truck just came with gifts from Stout. A couple of Collector Classics Dorfan Repro crocodiles and a original 3920. The 3920 is the only original std Gauge Dorfan I have that runs with the original motor and wheels. Howls like crazy but I’m sure oil and grease will fix that.

Steve

Joe Lyons posted:

Steve, What color Dorfans did you get?

Joe, the crocs are a red and a orange. The orange is actually a duplicate and may fall victim of being repainted. The 3920 is orange. I’ve oiled it and it quieted right down. Still need to grease the gears. I’ll take to Sunday’s SW meet and give it a good test.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big brown truck just came with gifts from Stout. A couple of Collector Classics Dorfan Repro crocodiles and a original 3920. The 3920 is the only original std Gauge Dorfan I have that runs with the original motor and wheels. Howls like crazy but I’m sure oil and grease will fix that.

Steve

Hi Steve, I assume that was the PA auction. I somehow missed that one. I think it was parent weekend at college.

It looks like there were some nice deals. I missed out on a couple of repro 840 power stations. Did Lionel have smoke in their repro station like MTH? If so, did Lionel or MTH smoke better than the other?

George

George S posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The big brown truck just came with gifts from Stout. A couple of Collector Classics Dorfan Repro crocodiles and a original 3920. The 3920 is the only original std Gauge Dorfan I have that runs with the original motor and wheels. Howls like crazy but I’m sure oil and grease will fix that.

Steve

Hi Steve, I assume that was the PA auction. I somehow missed that one. I think it was parent weekend at college.

It looks like there were some nice deals. I missed out on a couple of repro 840 power stations. Did Lionel have smoke in their repro station like MTH? If so, did Lionel or MTH smoke better than the other?

George

George, it was the Terry Witherall Indiana auction back in August.