Consist Corner

Ever since I saw the original "Silver Streak" movie on TV in the late 1950's:

and this one runs a close second:

Rusty

I'm embarrassed (but will still) ask how the word "consist" is pronounced with regards to trains.  Is the same as the other use of the word, or is the accent on the first syllable?  Thanks.

BwanaBob posted:

I'm embarrassed (but will still) ask how the word "consist" is pronounced with regards to trains.  Is the same as the other use of the word, or is the accent on the first syllable?  Thanks.

My understanding has been that, for railroading, it is pronounced as you suspected, with the accent on the first syllable: CON' sist.

For example, my thinking is that one could say, "That CONsist conSISTs of only boxcars.

P.S. I had to look-up what a consist actually was, wondering if it were synonymous with train , meaning it included the locomotive , or if a consist meant only every RR-car that follows and is connected to the locomotive. This I have once again asked myself, but still am not certain (!) I'm confessing that, here and now, because your candor inspired me to do so, BwanaBob.

When I searched "railroad consist," I found that the terms train and consist seemed to be used interchangeably, synonymously. In fact, at one of the search sites I went to, this .......was one of the photos presented in explanation, which did not seen to precisely distinguish between train and consist, at least, not to me (unless I'm having a slow day?)

FrankM

Lately I've been enamoured with the look of my Pennsy K4 pulling boxcars and Jersey Central Pacific with postwar semi scale passenger cars, which are both shown in the short video below:

Arnold

Moonson posted:

What is your favorite consist/train, freight or passenger, on your railroad (or in real-life, too) ? Share some nice shots here?

For me, it's two: coal drags and boxcar-tankcar combo consists...

I also like just a steam locomotive and a caboose right behind the tender.

FrankM

Very nice topic, Frank, and beautiful trains and scenes as usual.

Arnold

Moonson posted:

BwanaBob posted:

I'm embarrassed (but will still) ask how the word "consist" is pronounced with regards to trains.  Is the same as the other use of the word, or is the accent on the first syllable?  Thanks.

My understanding has been that, for railroading, it is pronounced as you suspected, with the accent on the first syllable: CON' sist.

For example, my thinking is that one could say, "That CONsist conSISTs of only boxcars.

FrankM

Frank, what you mention above is very important in writing good lyrics for songs. It is called scansion. It may also apply to poetry.

Lyrics scan well when the accents in the words are correct. The example you give is excellent for demonstrating good scansion. 

Here is another example. In the first line of the chorus of my song, Who Am I (Rollin' By), the lyrics are: I'm a MASter MOdel RAILroader,  ROllin' down the LINE . . ."

It's not masTER moDEL railROADer,  which is bad scansion in a song.

Seems obvious, but sometimes I notice bad scansion in the hymnal at church. One famous hymn said jeSUS, which is a mistake. Correct scansion is JEsus.

Since your profile shows you are a Rennaissance man of sorts, I thought you might be interested in this.

Arnold

The LOTS Santa Fe series.  Santa Fe has always been my favorite line.  I think these are some of the best looking cars ever made.  These seven cars are at the end of a 20 car consist, pulled by an MTH SF F-3 ABA.  There is an eighth, not shown......

Here is the 8th car.  Notice anything funny about it??

Lionel delivered the gondolas to LOTS, before Christmas, with black trucks.  The replacement silver trucks came yesterday.  One of them is no good.  After 2 hours of experimenting with all the normal fixes, I'm left with this arrangement.   Called Paula at LOTS.  She was her usual friendly and funny self and another replacement is in the works.  Of course, I'm not the only one with this problem.  Fortunately, there are tons of great people in this hobby and Paula is one of them.

BTW, I have two trucks for sale real cheap, hahaha.

Jerry

Moonson posted:

What is your favorite consist/train, freight or passenger, on your railroad (or in real-life, too) ? Share some nice shots here?

For me, it's two: coal drags and boxcar-tankcar combo consists...

I also like just a steam locomotive and a caboose right behind the tender.

FrankM

I don't know if this is your layout, but those are the best, most realistic figures I've seen in O-Gauge.  Nicely done!

SORD/Steve, It is part of my layout. Thanks very much for such a nice comment.

Those are Preiser figures.

FrankM

Freights regularly ply the rails here, but when pressed for a favorite consist type I prefer the stuff that cheats the wind.  I even go outside a preset time frame for it.

Bruce

My PRR G5s Ten-Wheeler #5740, an MTH Premier PS1 model, is one of my favorite locomotives and has been run frequently over the past 15 years. It has great chuffing sounds, whistle and bell. I like running short consists on my smaller layout and usually run this engine with just a Pennsy caboose, in this case an N6A #981133 brass model by Weaver.

MELGAR

Probably these two, at least for stuff I own.

MELGAR posted:

My PRR G5s Ten-Wheeler #5740, an MTH Premier PS1 model, is one of my favorite locomotives and has been run frequently over the past 15 years. It has great chuffing sounds, whistle and bell. I like running short consists on my smaller layout and usually run this engine with just a Pennsy caboose, in this case an N6A #981133 brass model by Weaver.

MELGAR

That one sure is a beauty, Melgar, and you have given it a beautiful home.

My CONsist

Wonderful idea for a thread Frank!!

trumptrain posted:

My CONsist

Fabulous, loved your video of your consist, Patrick.

Here's another favorite consist of mine: K Line Chessie System Diesel pulling boxcars with about 4 minutes and 45 seconds of the first movement of Beethoven's 6th Symphony known as The Pastoral Symphony:

I would love to someday run this train through a layout with beautiful scenery like that of Phil Klopp, Frank and/or Patrick, and several others featured on our Forum. Then, I would make a video of it and have Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony playing in the background!

Arnold

Today's grouping...

At Christmas, all of my Christmas cars including Polar Railroad and Polar Express.

And my all time favorite, the "Train of Sin".

Here is Link to two of my favorite consists. The Virginian pulling a coal drag and the C&O pulling reefers and other freight , all weathered. enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFC7V5CJqc

MOONSON,

   You got to have more Tin Plate consists mixed in here!

PCRR/Dave

Here are two of my favorite passenger trains passing each other:

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

MOONSON,

   You got to have more Tin Plate consists mixed in here!

PCRR/Dave

Delightful.

I have a tie between two right now. I like my Lionel SP JC Penny MU Car pulling my SP Mail Boxcar, Daylight Boxcar, and TCA Mint Car with a caboose on the end but I have also been very enamored by MTH DT&I GP38-2 and GP-9 in a lash-up pulling a classic Southeast Michigan DTE coal drag.

Arnold,

   Thanks buddy!

PCRR/Dave

Here's another.  " Short Ma & Pa freight "

Short, slow consists with short railcars. See 15" cars on rear track behind #1380 Ps-4  4-6-2 , The "Tennessean".

I like longggg consists, I fell in love with Lionel's catalogs of the 50's with the background images of long consists of all hoppers, box cars and the different ones they used. My problem is that I have no layout yet and my consists keep getting longer, I guess that is why I have no room for a layout. The last long consists I rang was many years ago on a public layout, this one was my one of my SP cab forward pulling mostly PFE reefers. I have quit a few favorites but most have never seen the tracks, like my BNSF Ice Cold Express with 26 reefers and 6 53' roadrailers.

paulp posted:

I like longggg consists, I fell in love with Lionel's catalogs of the 50's with the background images of long consists of all hoppers, box cars and the different ones they used. My problem is that I have no layout yet and my consists keep getting longer, I guess that is why I have no room for a layout. The last long consists I rang was many years ago on a public layout, this one was my one of my SP cab forward pulling mostly PFE reefers. I have quit a few favorites but most have never seen the tracks, like my BNSF Ice Cold Express with 26 reefers and 6 53' roadrailers.

I do remember a video of Bob Weaver's layout in PA that had a train/consist with 98 cars.

That  was impressive!

(All Weaver, of course.    )

Here's mine with only 79 cars, plus caboose.

https://youtu.be/Zl7_MSigPlw

https://youtu.be/UDpJxbWUM_4

I run a Long Island Railroad passenger consist that is always on my 12-by-8 layout. The engine is an MTH Premier LIRR G5s #21, the Sunrise Special. The three passenger cars are K-line 18-inch heavyweights.

MELGAR

Coming from Long Island New York I started with I LOVE New York boxcar. Since I now live in Mass and for awhile in Vermont I collected all the New England States....They make a nice colorful train.

Another favorite consist.

So new to the hobby the consist I’m running seems to be my favorite.   Here’s a “considerate” engineer on a late night run on the outskirts of town.

One of the only full sets I own and since its my local RR it is tops on my list.

Success on the replacement of the defective replacement truck!

From my earlier post on the LOTS Santa Fe series, the gondola came with black trucks.  One of the silver replacement trucks was defective.  I am happy to report that thanks to the good work of Paula at LOTS and Lionel, the problem was solved in only 3 days.  Really fast, in my experience.  People should know about such good things.

Here are individual shots of the 8 cars in that series that are on my overhead layout.

Jerry

This short consist is my new Sunset/3rd Rail New Haven Railroad ALCO PA #0771 in the original green and gold livery pulling a Weaver Hunter Green "American Flyer" car and a Pullman Green MTH heavyweight car. I usually run two more cars in this consist.

MELGAR

TedW posted:

So new to the hobby the consist I’m running seems to be my favorite.   Here’s a “considerate” engineer on a late night run on the outskirts of town.

 

Very nice Ted, and it sure looks and sounds like a diesel freight train to me.

trumptrain posted:

Another favorite consist.

Watch out, don't get hit by a speeding train! LOL

Very nice, Pat, as usual.

Arnold

         maybe  intermodal...

Grain train...

Pipe train...

Tom

This New Haven passenger consist, pulled by EP-5 electric motor #371 with PS1 by MTH, is always on my 12-by-8 layout. The three passenger cars are a McGinnis-era fluted-side stainless steel car #8701 by MTH, a 1937 “American Flyer” car #8227 by Weaver Models, and the “Flying Cloud” parlor car built by Pullman for service on The Yankee Clipper in 1930 - model by MTH.

MELGAR

trumptrain posted:

My CONsist

I know this is probably old news but is "Patsburg" a play on words with your name and that wonderful city in Pennsylvania?

Dave

luvindemtrains posted:

trumptrain posted:

My CONsist

I know this is probably old news but is "Patsburg" a play on words with your name and that wonderful city in Pennsylvania?

Dave

Dave - yes the name is a play on my name and that famous city in Pennsylvania ...  just as you guessed. 

Here's  a consist for today.  " Western Maryland Fast Mail"

MELGAR posted:

This New Haven passenger consist, pulled by EP-5 electric motor #371 with PS1 by MTH, is always on my 12-by-8 layout. The three passenger cars are a McGinnis-era fluted-side stainless steel car #8701 by MTH, a 1937 “American Flyer” car #8227 by Weaver Models, and the “Flying Cloud” parlor car built by Pullman for service on The Yankee Clipper in 1930 - model by MTH.

MELGAR

McGinnis is my all time favorite train livery.

trumptrain posted:

Here's  a consist for today.  " Western Maryland Fast Mail"

Fast mail!

"Signed, sealed and delivered, here I am." Stevie Wonder

My all time favorite would be the Santa Fe Black Bonnet consist, grew up loving the original silver series, but that red on black combo sure is sharp!!!