Does anyone know what e unit is used on the Union Pacific 752E? Secondly, Anyone know where I can pick up a couple of the brush plates I have pictured here? Jeff at the Train Tender doesn't have any and he does not believe anyone reproduces them. Thanks.
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Can't answer your first question however the second one, Hennings used to carry them. Don't know if they still do, as the brushes themselves are becoming hard to get. If you have no luck and need just the plate drop me a line via email from my profile.
We are sold out. Tebolt had made them previously, but are sold out & shut down. Harry
@Harry Henning posted:We are sold out. Tebolt had made them previously, but are sold out & shut down. Harry
Harry, could you tell us what the price was for those brush plates. I have a bunch of locomotive carcasses from the 20's and a few have exactly that plate. It would be nice to have a value bench mark for such items.
@prdmb1957 posted:
The motor in your photo is what Greenberg classifies as a Type 4, made between 1919 and 1924. They were used in the 150 series locomotives, of which there is still a pretty large supply.
I could take the brushplate off of one of my surplus motors that I'm not likely to use in a loco restoration. Sometimes I strip them and sell for parts.
I'll take this opportunity to note that I'm always looking for junk condition 150 and 250 series engines. If you have any messed up such engine that you don't know what to do with, I'm a buyer if it's cheap enough.
I meant just the brushes and copper arms. The brushes needed to be silver soldered to the arms by the buyer. Brushes were @ $4.00 a pair, and the arms @$2.00 each. You did not have to buy sets from Tebolt. George did offer everything BUT the holder, including insulation, screws & nuts for installing on your existing holder for $15.00 as a kit. I do not know of anybody that reproduced the actual metal brush holder. Harry
To expand on Harry's note, the last brushes I got from Jeff Kane weren't really tinned and a note was included that said to super glue them in. That worked. Going forward, when I run out of brushes will probably have to make some from say #92 brush. Note sure how that'll work but have had success with it on type 2 motors
@John H. Shetler posted:To expand on Harry's note, the last brushes I got from Jeff Kane weren't really tinned and a note was included that said to super glue them in. That worked. Going forward, when I run out of brushes will probably have to make some from say #92 brush. Note sure how that'll work but have had success with it on type 2 motors
Just before I noticed this thread, I was about to inquire about the chances of somebody such as Hennings reproducing the brushes and springs for these motors as I acquired a cosmetically restored Lionel 150 locomotive that had brushes worn nearly into their spring holders which resulted in very bad operation.
I cleaned out the holders and managed to modify a couple of the skinny brushes used in Lionel's Postwar whistle tenders to do the job (there's probably a brush that would be a closer fit, but I only have the common couple of Postwar ones on hand). Not sure how long they'll last as I didn't have a great way of securing them, but so far they seem to be doing the trick. They needed to be shortened quite a bit so they wouldn't touch the "brush holder" plate when assembled. That said, I'm not much a fan of the cobbled together/questionable nature of this repair so if somebody does introduce such a product to the market again in the future I'd be in for a number of sets so that I wouldn't have to worry about it again.
Working on 100 years old motors, I'd say anything that works is welcome news even if it has to be redone later.
Thanks for the response to the brush plate for the Lionel 150's engines. As per my other question does anyone knowt the identity of the e unit for the UP 752E that was built in 1934-41? Thanks again.
It is prewar 752E-2. Since basic design remained constant, postwar 100-7 should work as a replacement. It is an E-unit with a short lever facing to the "rear" and pointing down.
Note that this also replaces 616E-10 for the Flying Yankee.