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Ok guys,  I need some advice on this.  I'm getting my new house this week (YAY) with a 20x14 train room.  Below is the layout I'm going to build.  Now the electrical question.  I have MTH bricks, a few Z1000 and Z750 also.  Notice the inner line with a four track staging yard.... will a Z1000 be enough to power this all by itself?  I'll only be running one train at a time on this line, but if I apply power to the yard it will have two passenger trains (they are LED converts but the cabeese aren't) along with 4 cabeese and engines.  

 

The layout lighting and accessories will probably be an a Lionel CW-80.  But are the MTH bricks powerful enough or do I need to get a Lionel 180 Powerhouse?  

 

Thanks for the input guys!  I appreciate it!

 

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It appears that you have 3 "mainlines",a blue line w/long spur, green line w/staging yard and the elevated gray line. First, just as info, are you controlling via DCS, TMCC or Conventional or a combination? I also appears that none of your mains are interconnected via crossovers.

 

Are you anticipating having each of the mains, plus adjoining spur or staging tracks, as a separate power district[3 total] with of course its own transformer or separate throttle power supply? What load of engine motors and lights do you plan for each district? You can toggle selected staging tracks and or the spur for disconnect which when not in use will isolate cabooses and parked engines.

 

You have 75 and 100 watt transformers so whether they will suffice depends on the train load of motors and lights they supply in their respective districts. You have led-ed passenger cars which is a big plus. If you have engines with modern motors that is also a plus load wise. Consider that even a modern engine with a single motor can pull 25-35 watts depending on consist load and speed. So the answer to your transformer question is to assess the makeup of the equipment that you will be running in each district and its estimated electrical load.

 

For example, if you were running an AA combination of 1993 Weaver E8s with four motors, forget the small transformers. I used to run that combination with 5 incandescent lighted passenger cars in tow and it is a big load wattage-wise. I note this to indicate the difference in modern and older engines.

 

As long as you have secure track connections and have ample railpower feeders to avoid voltage drop, the length of track will have only minimum affect on the electrical demand--its all about the train load.

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Yes those are three separate mainlines.  The Large outer line with spur will run either a twin engine stack train or a Challenger led passenger train with LEDs.  

 

The inner loop and yard will house single engine trains of various type from a modern Amtrak Superliner to a steam powered beer train of Atlas cars.  

 

The upper will be a logging run with a military train staged or vice/versa.  

 

The layout will have three separate lines each being powered by a brick and DCS channel.

Nice looking layout!

 

My opinion, and there are many on here, nobody's wrong. Just my opinion. I never know what I'm going to run or what else should have power, ie. shutting off blocks or certain areas. I prefer to have the extra power provided by the 180 brick. !000's are fine but it cuts out at 7.5 amps I think. The 180 gives you 10 amps, a little more to work with. Nassau, a sponsor here, has some in stock. (just a pound for pound observation that I prefer for the money.)

I rely on the 180 PoHos entirely except for the DC needs. INMHO it is the single best power supply for those who operate from a handheld remote. Also, it has a very fast circuit breaker and by linking to a TPC I can run Conventional from the handheld remote.

 

For folks who love to operate with throttles it is hard to beat the Z4K @ 180 watts per main throttle or even a fully renovated pw ZW for about 190 watts in total.

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Originally Posted by Dewey Trogdon:

I rely on the 180 PoHos entirely except for the DC needs. INMHO it is the single best power supply for those who operate from a handheld remote. Also, it has a very fast circuit breaker and by linking to a TPC I can run Conventional from the handheld remote.

 

For folks who love to operate with throttles it is hard to beat the Z4K @ 180 watts per main throttle or even a fully renovated pw ZW for about 190 watts in total.

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Ok I see what all you've done, which is how I do it except with the MTH bricks.  Except for the silver boxes...... what are those?  Conditioners?

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