GG1 Relics in New York

I think these are PRR #s 4909 and 4917. I had no idea that trees had grown up alongside them since this was taken:

I am no fan of the GG1's, but being a fan of RR's and History, that is a sad site.  Does anyone know the story with these?  How they got there?  Is this an abandoned spur or siding?  Private or RR property? 

The line looks definitely abandoned.  The house is the back of Lee's photo is still there with a Caboose set next to it.  There are a couple pullmans and boxcars rotting away behind the GG1s there too.

Where exactly is that?

Thanks

Jim

From what I remember, which isn't much lately, these engines were donated to the "Leatherstocking Group" in Cooperstown, NY in the early 80s. They were to be cosmetically restored by that group. I don't know what happen to them. They're probably not scrapped because the of "PCB" cancer causing agents GG1s had in their traction motors which has to be properly removed, if I remember correctly.  

Oneonta NY

PAUL ROMANO posted:

From what I remember, which isn't much lately, these engines were donated to the "Leatherstocking Group" in Cooperstown, NY in the early 80s. They were to be cosmetically restored by that group. I don't know what happen to them. They're probably not scrapped because the of "PCB" cancer causing agents GG1s had in their traction motors which has to be properly removed, if I remember correctly.  

It's not the traction motors, it's the transformers in the locomotives.  All transformers were supposed to be removed and the bodies flushed out before any GG1 was disposed of.

Rusty

What a shame. Is there any hope for these two locomotives? Can anything be done to save them?

In November of 2014 the gg1s at Cooperstown junction were moved away from the Delaware and Hudson main due to the ns takeover of the line from cp. here are some pictures of the first day of the move. 

This also marks the first time a train operated from Milford to Cooperstown jct on the Cooperstown branch In years.  

GG1s are, I think, oversaved, if such a thing is possible. Many of them exist today and several are rusting away at the hands of museums. The most famous of those is the one that crashed into the depot at DC on that famous runaway train. The B&O museum has it, rusting away on a spur nobody but commuters ever get to see...

All that said, others are held by small museums and well cared for, such as this one at United Railroad Historical Society of New Jersey. I saw this one in September and it's wedged between other rolling stock and you'd never know it was there if you drove by where it's kept.

The only time you can get a glimpse of the equipment is when the leaves are off the trees driving by on RT. 287 in Boonton, NJ. It is recommended you be the passenger while trying to take a look at 65 mph. 

I had no idea GG1's were so heavily represented/preserved.  However, that red Power Wagon is fantastic.  I just saw that Tom Selleck's is going on the auction block.  I love those old power wagons.

Even Old Rivets is not in good shape.

This site has lots of information about GG1's, including a list of where a bunch of them are located:
The GG1 Homepage

Thanks TMACK.....love those gg's.....glad so many are preserved...wish New Haven and NYC had saved some.....EP's and P-2's....all the best....joe

     I had visited those two GG-1's in May. My brother-in-law took me to see them since they are a few minutes from his house.

    His understanding is that they are available to a club or other group that would want to restore them. A club or group could even just restore the exteriors.

   Along with the GG-1's at that site are two box cars plus a very old wood sided box car. In addition there is an RPO (?) and another passenger car, if memory serves me.

   I believe the numbers were 4917 and 4934. (Lionel is going to release the sparking GG-1 later this year as 4935. Here is the actual 4934!)

John Knapp

There is a video on You Tube of the GG-1's being moved from Cooperstown Junction but I can't seem to find the link for it. It was quite interesting! 

TMACK

  I was in Cooperstown last week also.  What team were you with ?  My son is on the Colorado RV Mustangs.  We found an old rusting Delaware & Hudson Jordan spreader at that Milton train station. I'm still not home yet so I can't post pictures at this time.

Mike,

We were at Allstar Village.  You guys must have been at Dreams Park? We are the Simi Black Sox.  Some of us are talking about a U13 trip to Omaha next summer.

Ted