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Hey everyone,

 

I know I haven't been on the forum for quite some time. College has me extremely busy since I'm looking to go to med school.

 

Anyways, I just returned recently from my first semester for winter break. I went to go run the trains for a little bit proceeded to fire up both my Legacy Conrail GP30 and my Legacy PRR E6 Lindbergh Special. 

 

I engaged both smoke units and ran them in a lashup. Suddenly while running the Conrail engine decided to take off and started to slip, flicker its lights very fast, and then the smoke output increased tremendously and then suddenly stopped. Also the engine was unresponsive to me pushing the red button on the legacy remote to stop all trains. 

 

After this I shut off power to the layout and then fired it back up but this time the GP30 was not in legacy mode but in normal transformer mode. I then proceeded to delete the engine from the roster and then re-upload it with the legacy module and set its road number using program-run. After doing so I fired it back up and it ran perfectly...until I activated the smoke unit at which point it rain for about 3 minutes and did the same thing again (sped up really fast, smoke output increased dramatically, lights flickered, and was unresponsive to legacy commands).

 

I have had quite a fair share of issues with Legacy locomotives over the past 4 years and have never seen anything like this. I've had broken chassis, smoke units, and fried railsounds boards but not something this erratic. 

 

Everytime I program the engine again it acts normal until I activate the smoke unit. 

 

Could this be a short in the locomotive related to the smoke unit? Power surge from my house?

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. My E6 shows no change in its behavior at all during this entire situation so I really have no clue what it could be. This is the first time the GP30 has done anything like this since I've owned it for now a year and a half. 

 

Thanks,

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Obviously it sounds like an issue with the smoke unit.  I would pull the top and make sure, for starters, that there isn't a smoke fluid overflow that is potentially causing some sort of short when the smoke unit is activated.  Smoke fluid is oil, and oil drenching, for example, an electronic board could cause issues.  Use a lint free cloth to gently dab off any overflow.  If you see fluid on anything electronic, I would use a bit of compressed air (air in a can) to try to clean it off.  Perhaps give it time to all dry out and then see how it does.

 

If still no dice, my sense would be you probably need a new smoke unit.  But proceed step at a time.

Sometimes when the smoke unit heats up the resistor expands and contact the smoke housing shorting it out and causing the electronics to do weird stuff/shutdown.

 

I would open the smoke unit and inspect the elements.  One may be arcing to the side if the chamber.  Reposition element carefully to center it.  There is not a lot of clearance on Lionel Smoke units from what I have seen.  G

RAL and GGG,

 

It definitely has something to do with the smoke unit because when I do not turn it on. The locomotive does not act strange. 

 

I will be the first person to admit if I caused an overflow so I will check it out. I highly doubt it was that since I only added one line full of smoke fluid using the pipette lionel provided and the engine has not been run since August. I still still check.

 

The resistor sounds like a very unique issue. Interestingly, months ago the locomotive gave 2 blinks for a smoke resistor problem. I was about to send it back but then fired it back up and noticed it worked again even though the locomotive diagnostics were telling me otherwise. 

 

I think sometime this weekend I will pull the shell off and take a look and let you guys know what I see. 

 

GGG, should I replace the resistor for a new one anyways? I have two from a friend of mine when the engine originally stated the smoke resistor problem. Apparently, the smoke resistors in these Legacy GP30s have been an issue.

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