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It seems like every time I do some more research, I run across another really cool locomotive that I inevitably want to add to my collection, but unfortunately it's too odd or obscure for the major manufacturers to produce. Case in point: one of the seven Baldwin-built 2-6-6-4's for the Pittsburgh & West Virginia. Seriously, these things are really cool. pwv1101P&WV 1102 Rook Yard, PA 1951 William Poellot photoHistoryPh4webPWV 2_6_6_4 1106 frbwPWV_JY_2-6-6-4They've got some very interesting details, like the Belpaire firebox, the booster engine on the rear tender truck with counterweights and side rods, smokebox-mounted air pumps, and the relatively tall twin stacks. This got me wondering, what about some of you guys? What unique locomotives would you love to add to your collections that are too obscure for the manufacturers? Let's see some pictures. 

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JonnyAce posted:

It seems like every time I do some more research, I run across another really cool locomotive that I inevitably want to add to my collection, but unfortunately it's too odd or obscure for the major manufacturers to produce. Case in point: one of the seven Baldwin-built 2-6-6-4's for the Pittsburgh & West Virginia. Seriously, these things are really cool. They've got some very interesting details, like the Belpaire firebox, the booster engine on the rear tender truck with counterweights and side rods,

Only the J1 class were built with tender truck boosters, which wound up being a maintenance headache, and were removed. The J2 class locomotives were not even built with the tender booster.  

smokebox-mounted air pumps, and the relatively tall twin stacks. This got me wondering, what about some of you guys? What unique locomotives would you love to add to your collections that are too obscure for the manufacturers? Let's see some pictures. 

 

One of the members of the Youngstown Model Railroad Association has that locomotive in O scale 2 rail. It was built by a builder by the name of Kloppenberg. It pulled a 60 car train at a recent open house it a fantastic piece. I will see of we can get some photos of it. No its not for sale, I already asked.

Custom Brass did a NE2 2 6 6 2 they did about 40 of them in 2 rail and came with a factory Kleinschmidt drive. 

Although certainly not "obscure", I have never understood why neither Lionel nor MTH have offered either the NYC H5b series 2-8-2 locomotives, nor the C&O K3a 2-8-2 series steam locomotives. Back when Sunset/3rd Rail announced both of these models, they could never get enough orders/reservations to produce either, in highly detailed brass.

Thus, the odds of ANYONE producing a model of such an "obscure" locomotive as the P&WV 2-6-6-4, is surely slim to none!

Hot Water posted:

Although certainly not "obscure", I have never understood why neither Lionel nor MTH have offered either the NYC H5b series 2-8-2 locomotives, nor the C&O K3a 2-8-2 series steam locomotives. Back when Sunset/3rd Rail announced both of these models, they could never get enough orders/reservations to produce either, in highly detailed brass.

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The B&O would seem to fit in the second rank of favorite locos. Yet 3rd Rail has done several. The secret is for a bunch of us to pester Scott and promise to buy the loco of the moment--the Q4b, the T3, the P7 and P7d (plus the gorgeous Cincinnatian train set) etc.

So, I surmise that NYC and C&O fans just aren't motivated.

rex desilets posted:
Hot Water posted:

Although certainly not "obscure", I have never understood why neither Lionel nor MTH have offered either the NYC H5b series 2-8-2 locomotives, nor the C&O K3a 2-8-2 series steam locomotives. Back when Sunset/3rd Rail announced both of these models, they could never get enough orders/reservations to produce either, in highly detailed brass.

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The B&O would seem to fit in the second rank of favorite locos. Yet 3rd Rail has done several. The secret is for a bunch of us to pester Scott and promise to buy the loco of the moment--the Q4b, the T3, the P7 and P7d (plus the gorgeous Cincinnatian train set) etc.

So, I surmise that NYC and C&O fans just aren't motivated.

And there, in my opinion, lies the difference between the "toy train" folks, and the "scale modelers", in our hobby.

 

mark s posted:

Good news:      Believe NJ Intl did the NYC 2-6-6-2 about 25-30 years ago. SP 2-8-2 and Russian Decapod done by Sunset 3rd Rail.  C&O/N&W 0-8-0 done by Precision Scale.

I remember Sunset Models doing a 2-rail O-scale Russian Decapod way back when (1980's?) but not Sunset 3rd Rail. 

And as I mentioned earlier, MTH did two production runs and totally ignored the Frisco, yet released the same Santa Fe number (the only ex-KCNM&O "Americanized") twice.

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NYC NE2 2-6-6-2 - yes!

As stated above, it's relatively "small".  So - it could be a scale Mallet that could dip down into some RK and Lionmaster curve territory, at least on the upper end. Thsis is actually prototypical, as the NYC did have some trackage that was fairly twisty, and needed some real power, but the big Mike and the Mohawk freighters were not comfortable there.

It would also give us NYC fans who also like articulateds a chance to have it both ways, and for others something unusual in a road name that doesn't call Mallets to mind. And, it's a nice-looking machine.

These should not actually be "obscure" - the NYC had over 60 2-6-6-2's, most of them like this one.

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