quote:Here's an idea: Open the Orange, Purple, and Brown Halls at 10 a.m. and leave the other halls locked up until noon. Those three halls are almost entirely dealer halls (or should/could be), and most everybody in those halls should be ready to go by 10.
There are plenty of collector trains in the dealer halls too. It isn't all vendors of new / recently made merchandise. And what about the recent production bargain hunters?
My proposal is to keep the noon opening on Thursday, but all dealer and member halls will remain open until noon on Sunday. Table holders will be required to remain at their tables until noon on Sunday (under armed surveillance).
The Meet would open to the public at 8am on Sunday to satisfy all those members who frequently request it. They will be required to pay the Pa. tax man for all Sunday sales.
This way, if I can't sleep I can put on my shoes and head to the Fairgrounds at 3am if I so desire to do some shopping. After all, it's all about me, right? 
is there a prize for getting there first? and why would the kosher bbq be canceled if the show started early? can't you walk out of the show and eat and chat with friends and then go back in?
Yes. I can think of a few neat things I've bought within the first half-hour of opening that I doubt would have been there much longer. I'm sure some others could make the same claim.
You expect Mike to sit in the parking lot all morning waiting for you to pick up a free hot dog?
This thread is getting to be B**L S**T.
Bowl Spit?
Ball Soot?
Jerry
This thread is getting to be B**L S**T.
Maintain your cool, Eddie! Just a friendly little discussion among friends, and of no real consequence.
This needs to be restated for the people who missed all the similar comments:
quote:Yes. I can think of a few neat things I've bought within the first half-hour of opening that I doubt would have been there much longer. I'm sure some others could make the same claim.
This needs to be restated for the people who missed all the similar comments:
quote:Yes. I can think of a few neat things I've bought within the first half-hour of opening that I doubt would have been there much longer. I'm sure some others could make the same claim.
Agreed.
To put it in the minds of those who "don't collect", lets say there's a Milwaukee Road S-3 on someone's table for near or slightly below original issue price.
Assuming it s not beat to death and it runs, it will be gone within the 1st hour, if not sooner.
The same applies to many items, and they weren't all made before 1969 either! 
While we obviously all aren't going to get such a find every time, enough different such situations pop up that it pays to be the early bird.
-Dave
Precisely what Andy and I were trying to say earlier, guess all these folks still pushing for earlier start times just ignored it? 
At the last York I scooped up a major deal from Vince's trains within the first hour. It was Golden Gate Depot's 5-car articulated Daylight set brand new in the box, a scarce item by now and below original MSRP to boot. There were a number of people already looking it up and down when I got there, basically had to shout I'll take it while they were still deciding. Would have absolutely been gone in the next hour had I not caught it.
Okay, so let's assume that you absolutely, definitely, must be there when the doors open to snag those elusive/rare/etc. items that will otherwise be scarfed-up by equally eager others. So what does that have to do with the opening time for the meet, at least as it affects the majority of attendees?
Meet opens at noon; you get there at 11:45. Opens at 10; you get there at 9:45. You go to sleep two hours earlier the night before; get up two hours earlier on Thursday morning; and haul your butt to the York fairgrounds. The meet isn't just about YOU, after all; it's about some 12,000 other folks as well.
I have noticed, though, that the throng of folks chomping at the bit waiting to charge into the halls has been somewhat diminished in recent years. There still are groups assembled outside the hall entrances, of course, but their numbers are much smaller than I remember from back in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
[Just an attempt to keep "York fever" going. I do love a good non-consequential controversy. ]
Funny thing is there's no controversy to speak of. Thursday opening time was not on the questionnaire, so changing it ain't gonna happen anyway. Problem solved!
quote:Meet opens at noon; you get there at 11:45. Opens at 10; you get there at 9:45. You go to sleep two hours earlier the night before; get up two hours earlier on Thursday morning; and haul your butt to the York fairgrounds. The meet isn't just about YOU, after all; it's about some 12,000 other folks as well.
The same applies for the few folks here who complain about the noon opening hours.
The meet just isn't about YOU EITHER.
ok its settled NO CHANGES. I agree with current arrangement Thursday is my drive time so noon suits me fine
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