PS3 headlight not working

when you hit the headlight on your remote does the remote say headlight on and off . it should but the display only stays on or a few seconds so you have to be watching the screen!

if the remote indicates the headlight on n the next time off should be working, at that point I would reseat all the connectors on the ps 3 board, sometimes all it takes is reseat connectors and will work again!

Alan

I have never noticed but I will try today when I get home and get back to you.

BUT.... when I do a START UP shouldn't it come on automatically?

thanks - walt

I went home and did what you suggested that I try.  I hit the HDLT button and the screen flickered for a very very short millisecond but as fast as it was I still don't think there was a message of any sorts.  I can't say this with any level of certainty but I don't remember ever seeing a message.  But since I most likely always was looking at the engine's light I can't say that there was never a message.

May I ask, if you drop back in, what does the presence or lack of a message mean?

thanks - walt

Alan Mancus posted:

if the remote indicates the headlight on n the next time off should be working, at that point I would reseat all the connectors on the ps 3 board, sometimes all it takes is reseat connectors and will work again!

I didn't see this post originally.  I am not at all comfortable touching those boards since I do know the cost of having them replaced, something I've had to do too often.  But I suppose when I take the lid off the engine to grease it I could do that.  I will buy something to ground me first though.

wonder though how anything could have come loose.  I handle that thing with kid gloves which is why I keep the engine/tender connected even in storage - to avoid having to reconnect and possibly cause an issue. 

thanks - walt

Walt, i have the same problem with a PS3 GG1.  Tried everything you have, and including reseating '.  STill no good'... First the pants stopped operating, now no Headlights front and rear???

There must a trick to this'... Hoping an experienced O-Gauger will know the secret'..........

I can test your boards in my test fixture if you would like ! as far  as the remote I explained to you, you have to be watching the screen for the message as it is only on for a second if your not watch you'll miss the message . if your not confrontable taking the engine and reseating the connectors would be glad to di it for you!  usually reseating all the connectors n doing a factory reset fixes these kind of issues !

Alan

what is the item number of your engine?

Alan, can you briefly explain how to reseat the connectors, or maybe show a photo of  the connectors...  I took my shell off and checked every wire. I  think I also checked the connectors too, but not sure.... if we are both talking about the same thing... Thanks for your help'..

The LED can be bad, the Wire to the s pin molex can have a bad solder joint under the heat shrink, the board can be bad, a wire can be broken.  If a diesel and the HL is off a contact spring they can make a poor connection.

So in the end you need to open engine and test.  If reverse light works you can swap connections.  If the HL LED works and the Reverse doesn't then the LED is fine but maybe the connection or the board.  Just logically work through it.

Steam is a little different, but if it has firebox or Cab light you can swap with that.  All the LED are the same, basically.

Either way you have to open it up.  G

I tried yesterday to open 'it' just to look until I find out how to ground myself.  BUT...  I couldn't figure out how to open up the tender - I don't see screws anywhere (I think the boards are in the tender).

I still am puzzled because as I said I keep the engine and tender connected ALL of the time, even in storage, so to me that reduces the risk of damaging the connection (pins, solder joints, etc).  I store them upright in a special padded box and when I remove them I pick BOTH of them up at the same time.  Same setting them on to the track.

As for looking at the screen, yesterday in my test I did look only at the screen.   I even tried my other remote to eliminate the remote HDLT button as the problem.  There is no message - just to compare when I hit the smoke button there is a message for a short time.

But for now I have to figure out how to get to the boards in the tender.  How to remove the shell.

Alan, I don't want to risk mailing the engine to you but thanks for the offer.  There is an authorized repair person 20  minutes from my house so I can take it there, but I don't know if they have the equipment to check a board.  I'll call.

- walt

if your board is in the tender you turn the tender upside down and usually will see 4 Philips head screws beside the trucks, you have to slightly rotate the truck to see the screws they are in the corners next to the truck but you cant see them unless you rotate the truck to spot the screws!

also sometimes the board is in the engine that's why I asked you the engine item number so we know exactly  what you have!!!!! 

tell me what state your in and I can tell you where there is a mth asc tech!

Alan

11-6036-1  (263 E)

I know of 3 that are in easy driving range.  I use Bob  Barth quite often.  I live in Pittsburgh PA.  But there is also a new asc tech in the Mars area (Hobby Express) which is close.

thanks  - walt

here is the documentation from the mth web sight on your engine. the headlight should come on on powerup takes about 15 to 20 seconds then head light should go out that lets you know super capacitor has full charged on power up then you normally can run the engine!

read the document I'm sending ok

Alan

https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...ction/11st12257i.pdf

If it is PS3 with the 6pin drawbar, the headlight is powered by the boiler board in the loco.  The shell is removed with 5 screws, one in the stack, two at the back of the cab, two under the rear truck next to the firebox bulb.  Check the connections at the boiler board and the wires going to the heat shrink tubing at the LED headlight (poor solder connections are common). The firebox bulb shares the same power source as the headlight, so check any junction of the blue (typically) wires.

The tender shell is a pain to remove, but likely not necessary. 6 screws under the trucks, two are flat-heads.  The cast front of the tender must be removed and the speaker detached, then the shell is carefully slid back over the frame.

Alan Mancus posted:

here is the documentation from the mth web sight on your engine. the headlight should come on on powerup takes about 15 to 20 seconds then head light should go out that lets you know super capacitor has full charged on power up then you normally can run the engine!

read the document I'm sending ok

Alan

https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...ction/11st12257i.pdf

 

Thanks but I have that already printed - did about 2 years ago.  I am very aware of how DCS and the equipment interact which is why I'm confused about the light not coming on.

thanks Alan - walt

Jon G posted:

If it is PS3 with the 6pin drawbar, the headlight is powered by the boiler board in the loco.  The shell is removed with 5 screws, one in the stack, two at the back of the cab, two under the rear truck next to the firebox bulb.  Check the connections at the boiler board and the wires going to the heat shrink tubing at the LED headlight (poor solder connections are common). The firebox bulb shares the same power source as the headlight, so check any junction of the blue (typically) wires.

The tender shell is a pain to remove, but likely not necessary. 6 screws under the trucks, two are flat-heads.  The cast front of the tender must be removed and the speaker detached, then the shell is carefully slid back over the frame.

WOW = what great information to read!!!!  I have taken the engine shell off before to lube gears, which MTH makes a pain in the butt to do too.

I'll have to check when I get home but as I recall the firebox glow is working so your comment "The firebox bulb shares the same power source as the headlight, so check any junction of the blue (typically) wires." concerns me.

the screws in the tender - they must be hidden!!!!  I looked underneath and only saw I think 2 screws near the center - but I figured those were holding something tight inside the tender - I've seen that before in other MTH products.  But thanks to you I don't have to get in there.

can't wait to get my workout in and get home to take the engine apart.

Thanks Jon - walt

Alan Mancus posted:

also sometimes the board is in the engine that's why I asked you the engine item number so we know exactly  what you have!!!!! 

tell me what state your in and I can tell you where there is a mth asc tech!

Alan

Alan, It is a PS-3 Steam with LEDs.  ALL PS-3 steam have tender board and boiler board.  No model number needed:-) G