Got my Vision Line Big Boy today, fantastic engine but I did have a couple of questions.  The area of the blow down effect, should there be any kind of insert there like the whistle the goes on top of the whistle steam effect or is it just a hole straight through?  Also, the deck plate that goes from the engine cab to the tender, is it suppose to lift up?  Mine appears to be wedged under the engine cab.  Any input would be appreciated.  Thanks

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I have one on its way and I hope it will work out of the Carton....However, If it does not, Lionel will take good care of it. I buy Lionel for the Service, After the Sale, and have been, for over 55 Years...I wish I had a Lionel Repair Station near Nashville, Tennessee, but I do not... This is one Popular Locomotive...Happy Railroading..

I had the same exact deck plate problem with my Legacy Big Boy.It was jammed down.I put a small cloth over it and forced it up with angled needle nosed pliers.I bought the locomotive used.I would not try this with a brand new VL.Lionel will make good on it.Nick

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Originally Posted by oscalien:

I don't own a vision line big boy yet,but trust me if I just paid 2700 or more dollars for one,the only person I want giving me advice on one is a highly experience lionel technician.no fun intended,it is what it is my friend.

I do not believe anyone here paid any where close to what you stated above.

 

mine was even under 2k.

$1995.00 at my favorite train store and he only has 1 left.

Saw one running tonight at a club members house. About 45 minutes worth. It is one amazing machine. If anyone finds fault with this piece of art they don't deserve to be in the toy train hobby.

Jim

 

Originally Posted by Captaincog:
Originally Posted by Jim 1939:

 If anyone finds fault with this piece of art they don't deserve to be in the toy train hobby.

Jim

Um, it is to big for my layout.

 

So, does that mean I have to give up all of my stuff and leave now?

 

No it just means Jim really liked the engine.

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Originally Posted by sinclair:

I don't remember seeing a deck plate on mine.  But then I had no problem connecting the tender to it.  I guess I better look at it tonight.

There is definitely a deck plate, which tends to drop/swing down out of sight. The idea is to swing the deck plate upwards, couple the tender to the engine, and then allow the deck plate to drop back down onto the front apron of the tender (just like the real one).

Picked up 2 of these. A 4004 and a 4014. Beau, no there is no additional hardware for the blowdown tubes like as with the whistle and these tubes are a good distance ahead of the movable deck plate so even if it is stuck, it should have no effect on your blowdown tubes. The deckplate does have a plastic anti scratch guard that is glued to the bottom side to prevent scratching your tender. If the glue that attached this passed beyond the deck plate and glued the deck plate to the back side of the loco, be careful and it may be able to be worked away with some patience and persistence, good luck. there are other blowdown issues to be aware of and I hope you don't have to deal with these. I haven't broke the seal on the 4004 box yet but have run the 4014 a bit. Alex M. in the forum has some great pics of one of these vision line big boy engines and tenders with the bodies off and thank you sir for that as it was a big help seeing that. This Legacy and Vision Line stuff is nice but I have had my share of being bit by quality issues. It does happen. This first Big Boy seems okay. In the product video you'll notice they cut the video to address the smoke issue on the whistle and the cylinder blowdown. My 4014 has intermittent whistle smoke and no blowdown smoke at the side of the cab but does under the dome at the fill bore when the dome is removed. so the fans and heaters work, it's an air fiscule bubble problem. I'm going to use a swizzle straw to place down into the fill bore and gently pass air into the bore to try and help the smoke oil populate the heater and fan area correctly so those feature work as intended as the typical blowing air down the hole trick has not worked. Has anyone else here had to exercise a tough air fiscule from one of these Big Boys? Quite a bit of plumbing where a problematic air bubble could take up residency under the body there. If no rock solid how to's come of this I'll report back with what works but I thought I'd try to see what might be known here first. Pretty cool little locomotive though I gotta admit.
 
Originally Posted by Beau W.:

Got my Vision Line Big Boy today, fantastic engine but I did have a couple of questions.  The area of the blow down effect, should there be any kind of insert there like the whistle the goes on top of the whistle steam effect or is it just a hole straight through?  Also, the deck plate that goes from the engine cab to the tender, is it suppose to lift up?  Mine appears to be wedged under the engine cab.  Any input would be appreciated.  Thanks

 

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by sinclair:

I don't remember seeing a deck plate on mine.  But then I had no problem connecting the tender to it.  I guess I better look at it tonight.

There is definitely a deck plate, which tends to drop/swing down out of sight. The idea is to swing the deck plate upwards, couple the tender to the engine, and then allow the deck plate to drop back down onto the front apron of the tender (just like the real one).

I found it and it's a nice feature.

We have a few 4014s left and under $2000 with free shipping.

Thanks.

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