Williams Trains Lubricants?

The MTH kit should work very well.

Williams don't want you to run the engines dry, that's the bottom line there.

Maybe I am wrong but I have been using a 3 in 1 oil or similar light oil, Labell's # 107.

Lee F.

I use Marvel Air Tool Oil for light oil, Lucas Air Tool Oil for medium, and 10W-30 motor oil for gear lube.

Pete

I use the oil & grease supplied in the Lionel service kit on all of my locomotives. It seems to work very well. 

I been using Labelle lubricants for years with no problems.

Ditto on Labelle products. Get yourself one of their multi-packs with light oil for axles and pick-ups and the white lithium grease for the gears.

It's all I've used for years for all my hobby needs.

That's one of the things that has me perplexed...on my MTH engines it says to use the grease for the gears, but on Williams it says the heavy oil.

I would think that the advice to use a heavy oil, rather than grease has more to do with expected use than any specific lubrication requirement. Many people tend to over-lubricate, and too much grease will tend to pick up fluff and other debris more than oil will. If you are going to use the locomotive on a carpet-central, then oil may be a better choice. But if you are careful and don't use huge gobs of grease, then grease will perform admirably. All you need is a thin film of lubricant. The trick is to remember to lubricate regularly, and to clean the area before lubricating. 

I wonder if I should use the MTH grease on the gears then instead of the heavy oil?

As I am on a perm layout.

I been using Labelle 106 teflon now PTFE whatever that is for years and it is very light grease and plastic compatible without any problems. Careful using some lubricants which will attack plastic. 

"Teflon" is the DuPont registered trade mark for PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene). PTFE is a synthetic flouropolymer of tetraflouroehylene. It is hydrophobic and has one of the lowest coefficients of friction of any solid. This makes it perfect for use as a water repelling and non-stick coating. It is also extremely good for use in bearings and seals.

I just used the MTH Oil and grease, and it worked like a charm.

It seems to me that the big answer is to at least use something.

Alan

Probably most any good grease and oil will work. I use Labelle 107 oil and the 106 teflon grease, along with Lucas Red and Tacky grease. I would NOT recommend 3 in1 oil. Lionel always said to stay away from it.

Rob

I have used the white motor assembly lube on my gears for years with no problems. A large tube from the auto parts store will last a very long time. It has the consistincy of mayonasie, maybe a tad thicker but close.

One more vote for Lucas Red and Tacky grease.

Went to my local Hobby Shop on the way to work....they wanted $15 for EACH of the 3 types of "Bachmann" oil!

I will stick with using MTH Grease for the gears and oil for the rollers and pivot points.

Any good brand will work fine but whatever you use always check for compatibility to plastic and careful it doesn't attack paint. You can always experiment on a junker shell. Extra careful on MPC era Lionel, I had some of the stripes attacked on a Pennsy F-3 when some lionel oil accidently came in contact with it many years ago. 

There is this stuff called Everstart on the pick-up rollers, Labell on the axels, and Lucas Red and tacky on the gears.

hello guys and gals.........

For williams trains and others with metal gears, red & Tacky and "GUNK" liquid wrench mult-purpose super oil(premium machine household oil) that's what i will use.  I will use that on my Santa Fe #5021 Sunset 3rd engine.

the woman who loves the S.F.#5021

Tiffany

I always wondered if oiling the pick up rollers would make it harder for the current to pass from the roller to the roller axle. I'm sure it would be best to use a lub that can conduct electricity. Will teflon lub conduct?

Teflon is a no no on rollers.

The Williams Maintenance sheet said to avoid teflon based oil when it comes to the rollers.

Thankfully, the MTH oil I have is conductive.