Should have posted sooner for custom runs, but how about Reading Company RDCs and Reading NW-2, preferably in Pullman Green. Thanks!
A Vision Line Phantom with matching passenger cars!
Every single variation of Pullman-Standard 50' box cars built between 1970-1980
Made out of aluminum or stainless steel that is 3D printed.
Made out of stainless steel sheets that are realistically thin that are stamped and welded together.
Box cars with distinct Pullman-Standard style doors are noticeably absent in 1:64th, 1:48th, 1:32nd scales.
Andrew
Strasburg 475 & Hello Dolly open air car.
more graffiti locomotives and freight cars
maybe some heavily tagged passenger equipment
more stuff for FAST FRIGHT SERVICE
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N&W legacy crane and boom car
A proper caboose to go with the class A
When's the catalog come out? I probably can't buy this time around but I still love to look
@falconservice posted:Every single variation of Pullman-Standard 50' box cars built between 1970-1980
MTH owns that market now. Atlas stated they no longer making those expensive models or parts to support them. We can only hope for new box car models never offer before like 40 & 50' combination door cars. Nothing else to add for the collection going forward. I have everything.
A scale PRR T1; another run of the vision line NYC hudson and a black SP GS4
lionchief plus 2.0 strasburg locomotive
anther stab at the drive in diner . i was really sad to see the christmas one cancelled even though i couldn't afford it
tier 4 christmas set
lionchief new hope and ivyland set
anybody know when in july is vol2 supposed to be out?
Reading T1's in three schemes: in service, rambles, and the 2102's "Reading and Northern" lettering.
I think we are long overdue for prototypical N&W hoppers that aren't brass.
Railking tooling E8's in Southern.
Lionchief A&WP 290 pacific.
Lionchief N&W 611, postwar tooling not railking.
Lionchief CNJ NJT heritage GP40.
O Gauge line sound box cars using 6464 tooling.
ACWR freight locomotives (SD-40-3 or GP-40-2)
Additional ACWR business train cars
More scale small steam
B&O streamlined P7D (Cincinnatian)
Finally, an absolute pipe dream: Scale electrocouplers
A "MAD" magazine train.
Four freight cars + caboose + Phantom (why not?) loc.
All appropriately decorated in the usual "MAD" style.
What? Me Worry?
@PSM posted:ACWR freight locomotives (SD-40-3 or GP-40-2)
Additional ACWR business train cars
I am really happy with my ACWR Lionel items and have more on order. I would love to see some freight.
LionChief AeroTrain Set
LionChief Plus Mercury Set
LionChief Plus Plus Forty-Niner Locomotives
North Pole Central 13-14 inch Passenger cars
When is the next catalog due out?
@rthomps posted:A MAD" magazine train.
Four freight cars + caboose + Phantom (why not?) loc.
All appropriately decorated in the usual "MAD" style.
What? Me Worry?
Hopefully, Lionel will take inspiration from Alfred E., but until then, I continue to kit bash in honor of Mr. Neuman.
Two recent examples with others in the pipeline...
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NYC/P&LE A2 Berkshire --MTH made it a long time ago--really cool steam engine
original norfolk southern F1 Berkshire
original norfolk southern 70 ton switcher
carolina and northwestern rs11
original norfolk southern midnight express passenger set
original NS AS416
original NS Tarwheel boxcar with freight sounds
Original NS diecast coal hoppers
original NS doodlebug
21 inch U.P. EXTRUDED ALUMINUM PASSENGER CARS w/FIGURES
REALLY HIDDEN COUPLER TABS
Here's my updated list of things I want to see in the next catalog or future catalogs. It's a pretty long list.
-4 Digit Addressing in all new Legacy locos
-Modern freight cars with freight sounds
-GP60, GP60M, and GP60B (Did Lionel acquire the MTH tooling for these?)
-Bring back more former K-Line tooling, especially their SD75M/SD75I with Legacy and Pacific Surfliner Passenger Cars with Stationsounds
-Legacy ET44AC; BNSF ET44C4 with correct truck details
-Legacy SD70ACe-T4
-Legacy F45/FP45 (Did Lionel acquire the tooling from MTH for these too?)
-Updated LCS system for use with Base 3; updated LCS App too
-Legacy SD45-2 Locomotive (don't know if anyone makes these in O-Scale)
-Legacy Siemens Chargers w/ matching passenger cars
-New Amtrak Superliners, ATSF El Capitan, and ATSF Super Chief passenger trains
-O84 and O96 Fastrack Remote/Command Switches
-Fastrack Turntable with Command-Control
-Command-Control Scale Intermodal Crane
-Legacy Crane Car/Boom Car Sets
-Updated Accessory Voltage Controller (AVC) for LCS
-Legacy or LC+2.0 Phantom Locomotives, matching passenger car sets, and matching freight car sets (multiple versions)
-Double Track Fastrack Truss Bridge
-Fastrack Bascule Bridge (Single and Double Track versions)
LionChief Plus Torpedo.
LionChief Illinois Central City of New Orleans set
LionChief City of Los Angeles Set
I would like Lionel to make a proper PRR C-Liner. With a four axel rear truck and a DGLE paint hop with single gold stripe.
@das boot posted:
That work is FAN-tastic, d-b!!
Great stuff. Great train!
"Vote for Alfred! He'll save the nation!"
Southern Pacific Legacy Scale Fairbanks Morse H-24-66 Train Master Diesel in the classic bloody nose red on grey. It looks like Lionel produced these at one time, but I can't find any used or new.
I remember them pulling the San Francisco Peninsula commuter trains when I was a teenager (late 60's early 70's). Boxy looking locomotive but a piece of interesting history. They were terrible things to service!!
I’d like to see an O scale version of the ALCO HH660 high hood switcher. Many railroads had them. Atlas has made an HO version for years. I’ll take mine in Boston and Maine and Maine Central liveries, please.
It has been 7 months since I posted this, but my "wish list" has not changed:
"At this stage in my life there are no items I "need", and very few I want since nearly everything is a reissue. I guess maybe:
- Burlington Northern SD40-2 in Bicentennial colors and cab #1876. I can run this with my Lionel Legacy BN U30 #1776 just like the real American Freedom Train did, pulling my AFT consist.
- Additional Friendship Train boxcars, but only if they fix the trucks. However, there are plenty of photos on the web of cars with placards that were on the FT, and many would be easy to duplicate.
- Typing the above reminded me I would like to see replacement trucks for those terrible ones that came with the FT cars and some others. (I'd use different words but I don't want this deleted).
Who knows, they may come up with something new that I may want, like the horse car they just did."
Lionel F19 after operating @john f penca jr's model. I remember flipping through the catalog on Lionel's website when in grade school and being mesmerized by the feed water heater detailing.
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The remainder of the American Freedom cars...
@booker110 posted:The remainder of the American Freedom cars...
That use to be on my wish list, but I don't think it will ever happen. Didn't want to waste a wish.
I do think a 2-pack of car #200 (Power/bunk car) and one of the storage cars (33 or 34) is doable since they have the molds. Or maybe a 3-pack with both storage cars.
They could also use their current production longest flatcar and HW baggage car for the 3 flatcars and tool car. They would be short but acceptable. The wagons for the flatcars would need to be made.
The issue is making the most important cars; the two Showcase Cars. I think a lot of folks would be happy if they just did these two. Problem is they will need new tooling and would only be useful for this application, an expensive endeavor (maybe scale mint/aquarium car?).
Anyway, I hope YOUR wish comes true.
Once again I’m going to ask that Lionel will pick up Lima’s scale length British Railways Mk-1 coaches and issue them in BR colors (although I won’t hold my breath).
i would like to see Lionel Legacy New Haven PA-1s in the new Haven’s factory-delivered orange with silver stripes and green roof or the New Haven’s Hunter Green and yellow stripes paint.
I would also be interested in seeing Lionel’s Hall class 4-6-0 in British Railways green and black with coaches either in cream and brown or maroon with gold striping. Many of us still like Harry Potter but having a 4-6-0 or coaches in standard BR colors won’t tread on Wizarding World’s copyrights. Selling a BR painted Hall class might also appeal to those with Harry Potter sets whose original HP ten-wheelers have gone toes-up as replacement engines.
I suspect that Lionel fans with tight curves might like to see a streamlined corrugated-side Railway Post Office car for their pre-Amtrak passenger trains.
I also wonder how Milwaukee Road fans would react to seeing Lionel’s post-war “Virginian” rectifier electrics in the Milwaukee Road’s orange and black freight scheme. Enough to pull out their charge cards?
Maybe the Y6 will make an appearance, or the 844. Hopefully not both at the same time, haha. I would be okay with a pass if there was nothing that interested me, but that really doesn't happen often if at all.
It would be awesome if Lionel produced a C-Liner set in Illinois Central Brown and Orange livery with Yellow line highlights sporting the IC Diamond logo.
I would definitely add those to my roster!
any idea the day of catalog release?
lionel has been really silent lately no workbench wednesday , no demos with dave
i miss the guys
Based on recent history, it should be around the middle of July. So in about 3 or 4 weeks from now.
Another run of the PRR M1a locomotives. I know they're in the queue, per Ryan, at the Amherst Train Show this year.
Pat
MP-54 MU cars in LIRR and Pennsy even PC — MTH did them maybe 8 years ago — so did Lionel but not in LIRR — 3rd rail did them best maybe 15-20 years ago but only in Tuscan scheme for LIRR
any lionchief plus 2.0 would make me happy
any legacy sets would also be stellar
Back in 1990, Lionel made a scale ATSF B40-8 Standard Cab locomotive in blue/yellow paint with conventional control in a set. I would like to see a Legacy version of the engine made. Also, Lionel could make a modernized version of the freight set with a second ATSF B40-8. The engines would look good with my Wide-Cab Santa Fe B40-8W. Other liveries could include a BNSF patched blue/yellow version, a Conrail version, a New York, Susquehanna, and Western version, a St. Louis-Southwestern (SSW) version, and a UP version, along with a GE Prototype version. There was also a single US Dept. of Energy B40-8 that was used at the Savannah River Site nuclear facility, so maybe that version could be made as well (and perhaps a set of US Dept. of Energy freight cars to go with the US DOE loco).
is there a 3 rail market for european trains?
i know mth killed theirs
I see that Lionel has updated their shipping schedule after quite some time. Oddly enough, the items I ordered back in feb 2022 are not on that list. Charles Ro still says 'back order' on them, so I really don't know when they are expected.
lionchief plus 2.0 army 44 style missile launcher and sound car two packs
lionchief new hope and ivyland set
lionchief plus 2.0 willy wonka locomotive
lionchief plus 2.0 fast fright service locomotive to go with my fast fright set that i'm getting later this year
lionel to partner with dovetail to bring official lionel equipment to Train Sim World
lionchief 2.0 GWR HST i know its a stretch but the one in TSW is so cool
lionchief plus 2.0 Unstoppable set
@paigetrain posted:is there a 3 rail market for european trains?
i know mth killed theirs
@paigetrain....
Did you look at ACE Trains? They offer 3 rail Europoean style trains. They can be found at https://www.acetrainslondon.com/
Hope this helps.
@paigetrain posted:lionchief plus 2.0 Unstoppable set
Yeah, that would be great!!!!
Since the 2023 Vol. 1 killed my wallet, my wish for the next catalog is that it doesn’t come out till next year some time
For many years, each time a new MTH catalog was released, I would cross my fingers and hope there would be a TGV set. It never happened.
Lionel has never offered any modern European train items. I think the TGV would be an awesome first European offering.
I'll probably be crossing my fingers with every new Lionel catalog until my demise.
rerun R27 subway set
How about a good old fashioned AT&SF caboose, 1940' to mid-50's vintage, in O scale, to go behind the same vintage steam and diesel front ends?
An N&W caboose to go with the class A would be nice too
@20centuryhudson posted:NYC/P&LE A2 Berkshire --MTH made it a long time ago--really cool steam engine
Mth is making a new one in .PS3 new number.
A Vision version of Norfolk &Western J-class
@Ken Gillig posted:A Vision version of Norfolk &Western J-class
i've heard that the next vision line engine is going to be completely new tooling of something never done in 3 rail o scale
Water tenders for the big boy.
I'm still hoping for modern versions of the high-rail track inspection vehicles with TMCC. Lionel did vintage 1940s-50s era versions a few years back, but my new layout is set in the present day.
More stuff for the B&LE, P&LE, P&WV, as well as the MGA would be perfect. Also hoping for a rerun of the PRR M-1a, the H-10, or the K4.
Still hoping for James Bond cars. I just noticed there is so much more in the catalog online!! What the what!
Philadelphia & Reading 4-wheel Bobber Caboose.
For each passenger car paint scheme, make a car for every body style. Example: for the small green cars with yellow lettering, add a full baggage car, dome car, full dome car, and diner.
Make a Madison style combine, RPO, coach, and diner. One of the cars should be named "Wolf", after Mike Wolf.
"One of the cars should be named "Wolf", after Mike Wolf."
Great sense of humor...How about one named after Mike Wolf's attorney?
undecorated locomotives that we can paint /letter ourselves
this would be extremely helpful to me since i run a freelance railroad
"undecorated locomotives that we can paint /letter ourselves"
Just FYI, these are rarely available in any scale these days. Little or no sales, as it turns out. Even HO manufacturers have stopped making them, mostly. My source for this comment is Jason Shron the founder and president of Rapido, one of the most successful of the newer vendors in HO and N.
@Landsteiner posted:"undecorated locomotives that we can paint /letter ourselves"
Just FYI, these are rarely available in any scale these days. Little or no sales, as it turns out. Even HO manufacturers have stopped making them, mostly. My source for this comment is Jason Shron the founder and president of Rapido, one of the most successful of the newer vendors in HO and N.
ouch
i guess i'll just have to live without an official paintscheme and just do patch jobs
i don't like painting over a good paint scheme. i just feel wrong about it no matter the scheme
Reading Company RDC
fast fright service SD70ACe
Ontario Southland GP9
@paigetrain posted:undecorated locomotives that we can paint /letter ourselves
this would be extremely helpful to me since i run a freelance railroad
They need to 3D print a wide variety of Traditional O gauge and True S scale locomotives and cars in the USA and Canada on both the East Coast and West Coast. The 3D printed railroad models can be raw, unpainted or painted and lettered through some process.
Andrew
@falconservice posted:They need to 3D print a wide variety of Traditional O gauge and True S scale locomotives and cars in the USA and Canada on both the East Coast and West Coast. The 3D printed railroad models can be raw, unpainted or painted and lettered through some process.
Andrew
i agree
3d printing would make the lionchief line EXPLODE with great stuff
I would like to see some GE U boats with the latest version of legacy. In addition, the California Zephyr made into 21” passenger cars.
@Racetrack Route Joe posted:In addition, the California Zephyr made into 21” passenger cars.
If you're patient, I'd try to get the Atlas O cars. They're much more accurate than what Lionel would be able to do with their tooling.
I got one; it's a reach but how about a Legacy Phantom set? I have all of them EXCEPT for the Batman RTR set (not interested). It was a "controversial" train then and would be quite the set with the tech of today.
Also, I'd hope that Lionel will do a version of the Avelia Liberty (new Acela) since no other "0" scale manufacturer has done a TRUE bullet train i.e TGV, Shinkansen, Eurostar, etc. unless someone knows something I don't...
Something other than a switcher with fixed pilots. Won’t happen tho.
@Will Ebbert posted:If you're patient, I'd try to get the Atlas O cars. They're much more accurate than what Lionel would be able to do with their tooling.
You're absolutely right, Will. I got into the hobby after the Atlas ones had been released, and were exorbitant then and still are as secondhand items, let alone are rarer than hens' teeth. While this isn't an Atlas or an MTH thread, Lionel's 21" Passenger cars are former K-Line tooling, and made of aluminum and not plastic like Atlas. Lionel's California Zephyr cars, however, done thus far (last ones being the 18" cars) are arguably not as detailed as the Atlas cars, but the 21" cars, that they have not *yet* ran in CZ, ones are still solid cars IMO. With the Station Sounds Diners, those are what does it for me. I would like to see their version of it though, not to mention, K-Line had a PRR thru-way sleeper done up in 21" Stainless Steel CZ livery just as the CB&Q, D&RGW, and WP. No, that sleeper wasn't quite accurate to the prototype but this is O-Scale. IF these can be re-released, it will give Atlas a run for their money assuming they do in fact re-release their CZ. This is also wishful thinking on my part, but if Lionel can make the CZ "all new tooling" just like they are doing for the 20th Century Limited from 2023 Volume I, let's just say that competition is great for the consumer, their wallet on the other hand, not so much.
halloween track inspection car that looks like a hearse
i really want vol2 of this year to be alot like 2019 vol 2 with much more traditional o gauge items as
traditional stuff is the only stuff i will probably ever buy because the high end stuff the more i look at it the more it looks intimidating and overwhelming in price size and delicacy
lionchief plus 2.0 is the right balance for me with big features but rugged play like the postwar days and i hope the lionchief line never disappears
Would like to see more steel mill related stuff. Like, the ingot buggy train, which I believe was shown in the last K-LIONEL catalog. It was never made. Perhaps a version of the "disconnect" cars could serve as an ingot buggy.
@Racetrack Route Joe posted:You're absolutely right, Will. I got into the hobby after the Atlas ones had been released, and were exorbitant then and still are as secondhand items, let alone are rarer than hens' teeth. While this isn't an Atlas or an MTH thread, Lionel's 21" Passenger cars are former K-Line tooling, and made of aluminum and not plastic like Atlas. Lionel's California Zephyr cars, however, done thus far (last ones being the 18" cars) are arguably not as detailed as the Atlas cars, but the 21" cars, that they have not *yet* ran in CZ, ones are still solid cars IMO. With the Station Sounds Diners, those are what does it for me. I would like to see their version of it though, not to mention, K-Line had a PRR thru-way sleeper done up in 21" Stainless Steel CZ livery just as the CB&Q, D&RGW, and WP. No, that sleeper wasn't quite accurate to the prototype but this is O-Scale. IF these can be re-released, it will give Atlas a run for their money assuming they do in fact re-release their CZ. This is also wishful thinking on my part, but if Lionel can make the CZ "all new tooling" just like they are doing for the 20th Century Limited from 2023 Volume I, let's just say that competition is great for the consumer, their wallet on the other hand, not so much.
The Lionel cars are not K Line tooling as those cars were made of aluminum. The Lionel cars would look a lot better if they had done the proper round windows on the dome cars instead of the flat windows. I see no reason for Lionel to do new tooling for a set that has already been done to near perfection. It's just time for Atlas to run theirs again...
@DENIS ORAVEC 110218 posted:Would like to see more steel mill related stuff. Like, the ingot buggy train, which I believe was shown in the last K-LIONEL catalog. It was never made. Perhaps a version of the "disconnect" cars could serve as an ingot buggy.
Any freight specific cars. I would like steel mill related because I model a steel mill but I think more diversity in freight cars is an unexplored avenue for Lionel. Atlas really does a great job with their modern stuff. MTH did a great job too.
@Tyler.J posted:More stuff for the .... PRR ....H-10....
A true H10 from Lionel would be great. Their current H10 is really its old molds of an H9 where they just called it an H10 to sell more of the model. As an H9, the engine is descent but with some noticeable errors. Lionel needs to get rid of the slotted passenger pilot and put on the much more common and accurate freight footboard pilot.
i had a dream last night the American flyer portion of the catalog had a huge revival and was so big it needed its own book
but alas it was just a dream
Hoping for a new Union Pacific FEF 844. I have the recent passenger cars on order, can't justify getting a big boy.
lioncheif plus 2.0 CPKC freight set
Heard from a hobby shop - the new catalog on the 12th of July.
@rrgeorge posted:Heard from a hobby shop - the new catalog on the 12th of July.
That's exciting! It's right around the corner then!
Still waiting for 21" passenger cars to match the Great Northern VistaVision Dome car from a few years ago.
more thomas characters
this is LONG overdue
E8/E9 B units.
lionchief plus 2.0 phantom military freight train
lionchief plus 2.0 GS4
lionchief plus 2.0 S2 turbine
SD90MAC but the ones that look like giant SD70ACe locomotives
This is the pipe dream to end all pipe dreams, but a Transformers train set of some kind. I have no clue how they'd do it, but it would be "ultra gear!" to quote the Transformers character "Cheetor".
@Patrick B posted:This is the pipe dream to end all pipe dreams, but a Transformers train set of some kind. I have no clue how they'd do it, but it would be "ultra gear!" to quote the Transformers character "Cheetor".
how about a lionchief 2.0 optimus prime diesel although i will say the new voice for the legacy es44 sounds kinda like prime.
but man next year is the 40th anniversary of the Transformers lionel needs to do a crossover
i want a bumblebee engine too with his radio voice
Astrotrain berkshire
i could go on forever
How about a ma and pa nw2 set? A bunch of ma and pa cars and an engine all for about $800-900.
according to something i saw on instagram the catalog will be out before the 12th
Sign me up for an Optimus Prime diesel!
plug n play Wolfe Manor complete with hospital wing on the back
a big pipe dream but Wolfe Manor is my favorite haunted location and i would love to have it in o scale comeplete with lights and sounds
I started a youtube channel in march and i just did a video about the new catalog with predictions and wishes, plus a box car that is supposed to be in the catalog. I forgot to mention in the video another prediction, Norfolk Southern heritage units, between 6 and 10.
5 more days until all is answered
I'm still hoping for more subways.
Any advance rumors or cover sightings?
Bring back the LionChief+ 2.0 Berkshires. And if there is a Lionel Lines 726, don't have the grey ashpan color like the previously produced model.
I'm really hoping for the C&O/WM 1309 and/or the Strasburg/N&W 475.
And, it's a long-shot, because I think it'll end up being a January Vision Line announcement at some point, but I'd love to see a Virginian/Erie Triplex since it sounds like Lionel has the tooling now.
I’m hoping for more 19th century locomotives to match the woodsided passenger cars, another batch of PRR E6’s, some more midwestern steam, scale K4’s (streamlined and not), and a 20th anniversary Polar Express Legacy set. All in the same catalog might be a bit much, but one can dream right?
gonna keep saying it until lionel brings it back
more hot wheels stuff perhaps a hotwheels lc2.0 engine or set
With the 6464 boxcar custom runs on the TCA and METCA websites, wondering if there will be some postwar inspired items?
Andrew
more Strasburg in the traditional line
its unfair the scale guys get all the SRC and us traditional guys get just a starter set and a few cars and BEDT 15
i hope lionel got the railking 2-6-0 tooling for a lionchief 89 and maybe use their 2-8-0 tooling for 475
i know its not accurate but its better than nothing this would also make my friend in Pennsylvania very happy as he is also a traditional guy trying to get more Strasburg as well
Realistic things I'd be interested in: (1) more subways; (2) more 19th century locomotives, especially Legacy with sound in the cars.
I-would-buy-it-but-I-doubt-Lionel-will-build-it:
(1) great British locomotives like the Flying Scotsman (which ran on American rails and which could be easily offered in several subtle variations--this year is the 100th birthday!)
(2) something in narrow gauge, taking advantage of the S or HO tracks (Durango & Silverton in Legacy with whistle steam would be amazing)
(3) Swiss locomotives like the Crocodile
(4) Orient Express.
I would also probably be in for one of the geared locomotives (Shay, Heisler, Climax) in an O-36 friendly radius with whistle steam and Legacy control.
None, see "Are Your big bucks buying days over" thread. LOL
Loads of Halloween stuff
i mean a halloween version for every engine and car in the catalog
Total fantasy here, but I’d love a modern diesel loco with an Eddie Van Halen ”frankenstrat” guitar paint scheme. Or at least a box car.
If we’re just “wishing”, I’d be in for an Alco high hood HH660. I’ll take mine in Boston and Maine and Maine Central/Portland Terminal liveries, please.
The wait is over July 12th at 10am eastern time the catalog drops
idk if i will actually order anything right off the bat i may wait awhile Unless lionel releases the lionchief 2.0 GP38 then i will immediately preorder IF i can get said GP38 for under 500 dollars at Trainworld
i need me another GP38 man
A big dome for the 21” Christmas passenger set, A Legacy PRR Q2,
re-release of the legacy Allegheny with WWII & late era details, plus 3 speaker sounds, force coupler, & an extra smoke feature like dynamo, or safety valve smoke. Brass Hybrid Blue Goose, EMD E6’s
Any rumors or cover sightings?
@20centuryhudson posted:Any rumors or cover sightings?
Via a google search, if correct, BTO UP FEF-3, UP Aux Tenders, 18' UP Passenger, PA M1 assortment...
i know its not accurate but how about a lionchief 2.0 New Hope GP38 in a set with 4 matching baby madison cars one being an announcement coach
2 more days
Confirmed union pacific FEFs. Even a 49er version, also prr m1, gp30s, sd50s
@tom21pa posted:Confirmed union pacific FEFs. Even a 49er version, also prr m1, gp30s, sd50s
where did you get this info? are you pulling my leg
@paigetrain posted:where did you get this info? are you pulling my leg
Its all true. Lionel support site, just search it by railroad and see
Holy cow there is a Western Maryland 1309 in this catalog and the UP WWII boxcars are 3 different sets of 3 packs.
just saw the lionchief 2.0 stuff and there already something i have to have
and its local to the old north state where i call home
its not Carolina Coastal but its still tarheel bred
so i need it
@Terrance posted:Holy cow there is a Western Maryland 1309 in this catalog and the UP WWII boxcars are 3 different sets of 3 packs.
Don't forget about the WM passenger consist options, as for me, the Army S2 and military "patriot sound" PS-1 boxcars caught my eye and pocketbook.
Ah yeah. The A&R Lionchief GP7 is the type of obscure southern road name I've been craving in this line. Its a must order. Hope we get A certain A&WP Pacific in the future.
If I'm reading the SKUs on the support site correctly, also SD70ACE in:
- UP
- NS Heritage (CNJ, NYC, DLW, IT, Erie)
And ALCO S2 in:
- Archer Daniels Midland
- Canadian Pacific
- SIRT
- Lehigh & New England
- NASA
- US Army
The 2-6-6-2 appears it will be in:
- Western Maryland
- NKP
- Denver & Rio Grande
- Northern Pacific
- Norfolk & Western
- Weyerhaeuser
This is all from the Lionel Support site, based off items with SKUs 24#####. There doesn't appear to be a way to search for that criteria, but you can search road name or wheel arrangement or designation (ie SD70ACE), and then sort by SKU, then find those beginning with 24.
I also see
- C&O F-19
- Consolidations
- F7
- Norfolk Southern SD40E
- The aforementioned FEF, M1, GP30, SD50
American orient express passenger cars, mow cars, Amtrak ocean view dome
FEF F19 and alco S2 in LNE for me---going to have to start selling plasma to afford all this LOL
I also saw a Reading & Northern SD50 with new paint scheme along with a dummy unit.
Looks like they pulled it all
I got a chance to see most of it. Highlights: Empire Builder F7’s & cars….. Beautiful!!!!
Christmas, & RF&P P19’s
DM&IR Consolation,
PRR M1’s. Can’t wait to see the Middle Division M1 set
@tom21pa posted:Confirmed union pacific FEFs. Even a 49er version, also prr m1, gp30s, sd50s
Nice! Do you know if the M1 was an M1a or M1b?
@Larry Mullen posted:Nice! Do you know if the M1 was an M1a or M1b?
Just M1, there’s a pinstriped version, a 1941 with a short tender, a 1955 with post war pilot & details. And several other flavors. But none of the are labeled M1a or M1b
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Just M1, there’s a pinstriped version, a 1941 with a short tender, a 1955 with post war pilot & details. And several other flavors. But none of the are labeled M1a or M1b
Thanks so much. I'm assuming the '55 version was the longer coast to coast tender and the headlight was on top of the boiler? If you don't remember, no worries; Wednesday will be here very soon.
@Larry Mullen posted:Thanks so much. I'm assuming the '55 version was the longer coast to coast tender and the headlight was on top of the boiler? If you don't remember, no worries; Wednesday will be here very soon.
Yes it has those details, it also has the antenna on the tender & it’s all green. No Tuscan roof or tender deck. Also worth mentioning The 1941 version has futura lettering.
@vash44 posted:IMO it doesn't make sense to pull it. They do this every year. Why not let those that are passionate about their products talk about and create some free PR for a few extra days.
I tend to agree with you, it creates buzz about their products.
On that note, it sounds like it's going to be another nice catalog. Bring on the SD50's!
-Brian
Looks like we're getting some cool new stuff, including some new diesels. If we're getting a new Legacy UP GP30, I'm hoping for #844 that is in the Nevada Southern RR Museum in Boulder City, Nevada (near Vegas where I live). I really want that engine! By the way, I actually got to drive the GP30 #844 at the museum. That was cool. Maybe the museum could work with Lionel to do a custom run of GP30 #844 with an accurate paint scheme (like the Scaletrains HO version) and also sell a scale museum passenger train consist, the generator boxcar with generator sounds, and a caboose (Vision one with sounds, maybe? Don't know if it will happen). When is the new catalog comming?!
@Dylan the Train Man posted:Looks like we're getting some cool new stuff, including some new diesels. If we're getting a new Legacy UP GP30, I'm hoping for #844 that is in the Nevada Southern RR Museum in Boulder City, Nevada (near Vegas where I live). I really want that engine! By the way, I actually got to drive the GP30 #844 at the museum. That was cool. Maybe the museum could work with Lionel to do a custom run of GP30 #844 with an accurate paint scheme (like the Scaletrains HO version) and also sell a scale museum passenger train consist, the generator boxcar with generator sounds, and a caboose (Vision one with sounds, maybe? Don't know if it will happen). When is the new catalog comming?!
Didn't see UP gp30s, prr, nyc, Santa Fe were there
@vash44 posted:IMO it doesn't make sense to pull it. They do this every year. Why not let those that are passionate about their products talk about and create some free PR for a few extra days.
Because IMO, not being able to know what's in the catalog ahead of time creates a bigger buzz than having leaks.
@MartyE posted:Because IMO, not being able to know what's in the catalog ahead of time creates a bigger buzz than having leaks.
its probably for the better anyway
i honestly wonder if there are NDAs
Any aux tenders for the new Big Boys?
Yes
any word on full paper copies of the catalog? if they are printing paper versions
@paigetrain posted:any word on full paper copies of the catalog? if they are printing paper versions
Paper catalogs have shipped. I suspect many dealers already have them.
Pete
Salem Cider works storage tanks
Salem Cider Works factory
1 MORE DAY. Question is, what won't we see?
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:1 MORE DAY. Question is, what won't we see?
Not much NYC from what I saw.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:1 MORE DAY. Question is, what won't we see?
prices 90% of us can afford.
@superwarp1 posted:prices 90% of us can afford.
But yet there will be a ton of folks saying what they are getting. Dealer discounts are worth the effort to find them. I'm not sure your 90% is accurate based solely on who says what they are buying when the catalog goes live.
@PSM posted:Not much NYC from what I saw.
Well that is good news, as well as expected. I need to hold onto some money at some point now don't I?
As far as prices, well, this tune has been played before by the manufacturers. Who can say if they will ease down a bit or not. Either way, people will do what they want, but or not.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:1 MORE DAY. Question is, what won't we see?
New rolling stock I bet. I feel like Lionel has been slacking on rolling stock. Maybe that's just my perception though.
Always excited for a new catalog from any manufacturer though!
really hoping for a nice plug n play accesory i can add
i don't have any accesories
Fillable tank cars would be cool too
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I got a chance to see most of it. Highlights: Empire Builder F7’s & cars….. Beautiful!!!!
Christmas, & RF&P P19’s
DM&IR Consolation,
PRR M1’s. Can’t wait to see the Middle Division M1 set
What other consolidation roadnames and is it the Harriman 2-8-0 tooling or something else?
@Brian DeFazio posted:What other consolidation roadnames and is it the Harriman 2-8-0 tooling or something else?
They have Seaboard with a green boiler, Colorado & southern, Lehigh valley…. Can’t remember the rest. It’s USRA tooling
@PSM posted:Not much NYC from what I saw.
What about Conrail and the mighty PRR?
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:What about Conrail and the mighty PRR?
There is Conrail.
any legacy sets this time?
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:What about Conrail and the mighty PRR?
PRR gets the M1, I don't recall seeing any Conrail.
What about Amtrak?
12 hours to go
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:What about Amtrak?
Just Amtrak station sounds dome ocean view. In phase 3
@tom21pa posted:Just Amtrak station sounds dome ocean view. In phase 3
Bet it doesn't look as nice as the GGD brass one with the correct extrusions!
The Pullman-Standard double-door 60' box cars built in the 1960's for
Canadian National
Chicago & North Western
Grand Trunk Western
will not be produced until 2024.
Andrew
Ryan and everyone else at LIONEL need to have new road numbers of the B&O and C&O Chessie System GP30 diesel-electric locomotives produced every year.
Andrew
2 Rail
In 1971 the Steven Spielberg movie DUEL was made.
One of the scenes in DUEL was at a Southern Pacific railroad grade crossing featuring a current day freight train.
The people at LIONEL could have every single locomotive and freight car that is seen in the movie DUEL produced all within the same year.
They would need a high-definition copy of the 1971 movie DUEL to see every single detail.
Andrew
Lionel added "TORPEDOES" (roof mounted auxiliary air reservoirs) to their GP9s in the 2018 catalog. They offered B&O (psgr), CNW, MILW, NKP, TH&B and WAB. Methinks it's time to bring back this model, adding more of the roads and paint schemes offered by the prototype roads that used them. At minimum, there are the B&O in spartan blue, BN, CP, PRR, Soo Line in three color schemes, and the one I'd most like to have: Illinois Central.
The IC used their passenger geared and steam equipped Geeps to haul their less prestigious trains such as my favorite, the Hawkeye, plus the Land-O-Corn, Governors Special, etc.
My Hawkeye has had to make do with a MTH Rail King GP9, for which I used a .22 brass casing for a steam generator stack, this in remembrance of all the times GunRunnerJohn has rescued me from imminent disaster. The .22 brass is just the right size and the rim glued on the inside of the carbody keeps it upright, stable and sturdy. Atlas has also offered an IC GP9 but it doesn't even have a boss for a steam generator and the engine numbers are all wrong.
C'mon, Lionel, I've been waiting patiently...
As Roger Rabbit once said, famously, "P-P-P-P-UHLLEEEEEEEZE!"
lionchief 2.0 norfolk southern gp38
a lionchief set themed around the videogames Horizon Forbidden west and zero dawn with Aloy themed crew talk
fortnite train set
overwatch train set
GTA 5 Go Loco GP38
Mr Beast GP9
did anyone get a straight answer of when the catalog drops?
A Rock Island light blue and white Lionchief GP38
MKT Lionchief GP38
Mopac Lionchief GP38
Illinois terminal GP38
Penn Central 40ft trailer on flat car in the Green Scheme
Sea Land 40 for trailer on flat in the early scheme
just saying , if anyone has good contacts with dealers or direct with Lionel. Been trying t get these trailers done as special ruins , but no one listens . Lol
I'm really close to having everything I could possibly want in trains which is really weird feeling!
There are a few items out of existing tooling that would still interest me.
I'd like to see the HEP car in Amtrak Phase I paint, but with an option to purchase it without the sounds. I just like the car even it if isn't totally prototypical to the actual Amtrak cars. The Amtrak ones are actually only 60' cars rebuilt from St. Louis Car Company Army Kitchen cars. I could call it close enough though.
Some additional numbers for Phase III Heritage coaches would be nice too. I found the smooth sided one loosely based on the Saint Louis Car Company prototype to be nicely done and nice change from the typical Budd built cars. The 4 car set, plus the 2 car add-on set came with two coaches total, and typically most Amtrak Heritage equipped trains ran with four or more coaches. I have scale Amfleet cars to use, but a complete Heritage fleet train would be awesome.
I'd also possibly be interested in the Reading 72' commuter cars painted in CNJ. CNJ operated this car if not a very similar one with the low sloped roof and I like the fact that Lionel has made accommodations to swap the wheels out to two rail and add Kadee couplers.
As for new tooling? I doubt Lionel used a slide tool for the 21" cars which would make this easy, but using the baggage-coach tool and shrinking the windows to squares, a proper baggage-dorm car in any number of roads would be very welcome. I'd like to see one in PC and Amtrak Phase I & III personally, but they could put any paint scheme on it and I think it could do well.
The challenge I see is that Lionel prefers to do sets over individual cars unless they command the price point of something like a station sounds diner or dome. I'm mostly past wanting passenger car sets having more than my fair share. Maybe a two-car set with a coach and a dorm car would be something Lionel would consider.
I don't have any interest in new locomotives at the moment and I have enough freight cars to fill several yards.
@GG1 4877 posted:I'm really close to having everything I could possibly want in trains which is really weird feeling!
I envy this... hope I join you in that circle someday!
@H1000 posted:I envy this... hope I join you in that circle someday!
i'm very far from that circle but may have to get closer as i'm running out of room to store my stuff
AND i may be getting a little greedy / ahead of myself
Perhaps this has already been said or even already done, I'd really like to see more TMCC or Legacy operating accessories, like the venerable milk car/platform and the ice loading station. I really love the culvert loader/unloader TMCC version, and gotta believe that the milk/ice car accessories could be along those lines.
just got a vision where i saw a white and silver phantom set with light up features called the arctic express
i also got a vision of a fantasy bantam j class in the original NS diesel scheme racing through greenville nc on a snowy night
a 49er bantam j pulling a line of freight in my character Fenix Starr's living room using marx scented smoke fluid
i've been having these visions a lot lately . maybe its OLD. (Obsessive Lionel Disorder)
Well, since this is a wish list…
Siemens Chargers (so many possibilities there)
ET44ACs
The C&O Hudson from the B&O Museum with added smoke affects. This may not be so much of a wish, but a when.
Sone SD60s based off the new tooling from the recently catalogued SD50s.
Continuation of the NS heritage ES44s.
Oh, and one last loco I would love to see would be the GE ES44AC 2010 GEVO with the charging lights. I know it would be in plastic, but would be great to see run again. Add the GE Test car with it.
Oh, those should all be scale with Legacy and Bluetooth.
Wish, Wish, Wish
@Carl Peduzzi posted:Well, since this is a wish list…
Siemens Chargers (so many possibilities there)
ET44ACs
The C&O Hudson from the B&O Museum with added smoke affects. This may not be so much of a wish, but a when.
Sone SD60s based off the new tooling from the recently catalogued SD50s.
Continuation of the NS heritage ES44s.
Oh, and one last loco I would love to see would be the GE ES44AC 2010 GEVO with the charging lights. I know it would be in plastic, but would be great to see run again. Add the GE Test car with it.
Oh, those should all be scale with Legacy and Bluetooth.
Wish, Wish, Wish
Some great ideas, Carl.
Ditto on the Siemens Chargers (especially an Amtrak ALC-42 Phase 7 unit w/ matching Superliner passenger cars), ET44ACs (also the BNSF ET44C4s with correct truck sideframe details), SD60s (Lionel said these will probably happen sometime), and the GE #2010 Hybrid/GE test car.
Lionel will most likely release more NS heritage units. Also, the Chargers need matching passenger cars.
My wishlist (not in any specific order):
-CSX Heritage ES44AH units
-BNSF/FEC ES44C4s with correct truck details
-EMD/Progress Rail SD70ACe-T4
-SD45-2 (especially the ATSF blue/yellow Warbonnet, Bicentennial ATSF, BNSF SD40-2R with 16-cylinder 645 prime mover sounds, and BNSF SD32ECO rebuilds with 12-cylinder 710 prime mover sounds)
-GP60/GP60M(-3)/GP60B
-GP38-2
-GP39-2
-GP40-2
-GP50
-SD7/SD9
-Polar Express Berkshire and matching passenger cars
-Pere Marquette and NKP Berkshires
-ATSF #3751
-SD75M/SD75I (especially ATSF SD75M and ATSF/BNSF SD75I units)
-Rebuilt power with correct cabs and radiators (for example: CSX ET23DCMs, CSX "Spongebob Cab" SD40-3s, GP40-3s, and GP38-3s, NS Admiral Cab SD40-2s, SD33ECOs, GP33ECOs, GP59Es/ECOs)
-ATSF or BNSF SD40-2s (maybe a UP SD40N rebuild, too)
-UP SD59MX rebuild
-BNSF GP39-3 rebuilds (also BN GP39E/M/V GP30 and GP35 rebuilds with correct body details)
-UP SD70Ms (multiple radiator and cab versions)
-Vision Ethanol Tank Cars
-Fastrack Turntable w/ Command-Control
-Legacy Crane Car/Boom Car Sets
-Command-Control Intermodal Cranes and Gantry Cranes with sounds
-New GE U-Boats (U28CG, U36C, U25B, U25C, U30C)
-3-Unit UP "Big Blow" Gas Turbines
-SD90MAC-H with correct body and cab details
-Correct cabs on new SD70ACU and SD70ACC rebuilds
-Phantom locomotives with matching passenger and freight car sets (new liveries and features for these)
-An engine I've really wanted for a long time: UP GP30 #844 with Legacy!
Hey @Dylan the Train Man, for a moment there I was going to quote your entire list as there is so much there that needs To be made.
The Berkshires seem to be a go as so many have talked about them being in this catalog.
Lionel needs some good GPs - especially the 38-2s and 40-2s.
i would pick up some BNSF GP60s. U30C and C30-7s would be a must for me.
You have some good generation 3 and 4 motive power there I would Love to see.
And, as a repeat of a question from @paigetrain, has anyone heard of the official catalog drop date?
A LC + 2.0 Class A with Whistle Steam would awesome!
My "right now” wishlist:
N&W 475
Strasburg open air cars, especially the Hello Dolly
Strasburg parlor, diner, 1st class coaches
My "down the road” wish list:
Rocky Mountaineer passenger set
Plated Santa Fe Super Chief passenger set with smooth sided coaches
Norfolk Southern OCS set
N&W J class 611
Disneyland / Walt Disney World scale Park train
It seems @MrMuffin'sTrains has answered my question with one of his emails. The new catalog drops on Jan 11. Just 7 days away.
@Carl Peduzzi posted:It seems @MrMuffin'sTrains has answered my question with one of his emails. The new catalog drops on Jan 11. Just 7 days away.
i can do this
just one more week
I’m pretty much done buying locomotives as we haven’t seen any all new tooling for a while now. I’d be interested in the ALCO HH660 switcher, which has never been produced in O gauge, to my knowledge. I’ll take one each in Boston and Maine and Maine Central liveries.
(Okay, I'm lazy. This is a duplication of my post on the 'Lionel 2024 Catalog' topic)
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results - Albert Einstein.
I must be going insane because I keep asking for Lionel to complete their American Freedom Train as they said they would but they never do.
We have no idea what Lionel, MTH, or Atlas will choose to make or invest in. It’s one of the reasons lists like these wake up before catalog drops and excite the forum. The masses don’t know what is in the catalog, so we hope and dream. It’s like Christmas twice a year.
Maybe we get something new. Maybe we don’t. Regardless, it’s a figurative candy store we will get to enter next Friday and see what sweet offerings will be offered.
My wish list would be some scale Berkshires, scale Polar Express, Santa Fe 2-10-4 number 5000, and Santa Fe 3460 class including the Blue Goose.
I’ve restricted myself to buying locomotives and rolling stock from the early steam to diesel era to keep myself from buying everything in sight. I’m still hoping that Lionel will release a PA-1 in one of the New Haven Railroad’s pre-McGinnis paint schemes. Not all of us are enraptured with DCS.
I also have a certain fondness for the “Harry Potter” 4-6-0. It would be nice to get one in one of post-nationalization British Railways’ green-with-black smokebox paint schemes, but I’m not going to hold my breath. Perhaps as aBuild to Order?
Speaking of 4-6-0s, I wonder how well a Denver and Salt Lake legacy 4-6-0 would sell. Build to Order, maybe?
i’m also game for an 18 inch heavyweight passenger car, but I think it’s unlikely, even in Polar Express colors
Also, if Lionel re-releases their round-roof boxcars, it would be nice of them to get the PRR colors RIGHT and with different numbers.
I personally will always wish for some more Western Maryland and B&O. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a PRR specific locomotive in the catalog, since they've done it for the past 3, and if there is one I hope its a T1. A new legacy T1 will always be on my wish list. A reissue of the GG1 would also be nice. From what I have seen so far from leaks, the first catalog of the year is shaping to be pretty nice.
@Tyler.J posted:I personally will always wish for some more Western Maryland and B&O. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a PRR specific locomotive in the catalog, since they've done it for the past 3, and if there is one I hope its a T1. A new legacy T1 will always be on my wish list. A reissue of the GG1 would also be nice. From what I have seen so far from leaks, the first catalog of the year is shaping to be pretty nice.
leaks already ? good lord
even though i'm not allowed to buy halloween stuff i hope there's a whole train load of haunted goodies that i can just admire from a distance
depending on my next doctor visit in april this may be my last catalog ever so it better be EPIC