GGG posted:Jim Harrington posted:Unfortunately these engines have neither...
What are you talking about? The 0-4-0 that I was posting about has both. G
The 2-10-0, which was the topic of the original post and subject of my question...
Jim Harrington posted:GGG posted:Jim Harrington posted:Unfortunately these engines have neither...
What are you talking about? The 0-4-0 that I was posting about has both. G
The 2-10-0, which was the topic of the original post and subject of my question...
Which was back in August and over with. Someone decided to use your post in Dec about switchers. That is what was addressed. G
Thank you for your flippant and erroneous response.
My post/question on 12/20/17 was about the 2-10-0 and lack of pick-up rollers, and the responses were about pick-up rollers, using the switchers as an example.
Merry Christmas.
Thanks Jim, Merry Christmas to you too, I missed that you resurrected a 4 month old post to question pick up rollers. So I addressed the specific 0-4-0 post. Have you bought the engine yet? Regardless, my post informs why some don't have pickups on the engine, rather than your disconcerting questioning of the product engineering. If the spacing of the pickup rollers on the engine are as short as a tender would it matter where they were? 
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I'm not debating whether they should be on either the locomotive or the tender. All my TMCC steam locomotives have four - two rollers on the loco AND two on the tender.
My MTH FT-Units have four - two on each truck.
If there is room (and there seems to be), why wouldn't MTH put them on both the loco and tender for better reliability? (Loaded question - probably "value engineering"). 
I have an MTH scale wheel 0-6-0 that did not like Ross turnouts, so I had Stockyard Express put a roller in the empty hole in the Locomotive, and tie all the grounds together (probably never run it in 2 rail mode). Know most reliable small engine I have. Also a lot better smoke output.
Jim Harrington posted:I'm not debating whether they should be on either the locomotive or the tender. All my TMCC steam locomotives have four - two rollers on the loco AND two on the tender.
My MTH FT-Units have four - two on each truck.
If there is room (and there seems to be), why wouldn't MTH put them on both the loco and tender for better reliability? (Loaded question - probably "value engineering").
TMCC has to have 4 especially when IR sensor used otherwise the tender has no power for the boards. TMCC has boards in engine and tender. MTH has main board in one location. Even early TMCC with 4 wire harness had same issue. 3 of the 4 used up for serial data, coupler and reverse light. SO they tied AC ground between units and used pickups on tender to power RS. It is not about reliability. It is why sometimes sounds go out on TMCC engine over switches. Tender and engine do not power each other.
In general only minimum necessary are used. Does your FT have 2 individual pickups per truck or a single double roller type.
You seem to be implying some defect in engineering, yet plenty of models are done this way and seem to work fine with out reliability issues. No body in the train industries does redundancy, which is really what your talking about. Not reliability. Some one early on posted it ran fine with no issues. G
So I picked up a new 20-3638-1 and am having some problems, and started another post.
https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...89#77452619067897089
Input is appreciated...
Thanks,
Jim
