2017 LIONEL SIGNATURE EDITION VOLUME 1, READY-TO-RUN, AMERICAN FLYER, & CHRISTMAS CATALOG PRE-ORDER PRICES AT PATRICK'S TRAINS, WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM Please note Lionel MAP pricing. Please call for special pricing.

Have you set the cutoff date for the preorder pricing yet?  There are some things I'd like to order, but we just had a little girl, so need to see the hospital bills first.... Thanks.

In all of the catalogs this time around, I have to say this one grabbed my attention.  Gorgeous!

Fridge56Vet posted:

Have you set the cutoff date for the preorder pricing yet?  There are some things I'd like to order, but we just had a little girl, so need to see the hospital bills first.... Thanks.

You will have till the end of Feb. 2017.

Congratulations on the birth of your baby girl.

Thanks

Pat

The Signature Edition and Christmas catalogs are now up on our site for pre-orders.  The links are posted above in the first post.

The Ready-to-Run and American Flyer catalogs are now up on our site for pre-orders.  The links are posted above in the first post.

Placed my pre-orders on your website on the 26th.  What are the most popular items so far?

lionel89 posted:

Placed my pre-orders on your website on the 26th.  What are the most popular items so far?

This image says it all.

Please note Lionel has issued MAP pricing on a lot of the new items in the catalog. Please feel free to call the store to discuss the new pricing.

Thanks

Pat

PATRICK'S TRAINS

142 29TH STREET

WHEELING WV 26003

304-232-0714

WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM

E-MAIL PATSTRAINS@AOL.COM

What does map stand for ? Manufacture adjusted pricing?

PATSTRAINS posted:

Please note Lionel has issued MAP pricing on a lot of the new items in the catalog. Please feel free to call the store to discuss the new pricing.

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Hey Pat, I'll be giving you a call tomorrow to discuss.  (I'd call tonight, but it's already 8:30PM!!!)  You had some really aggressive prices on some of the new stuff -- good enough that I thought I'd pre-order a Shay or two.  But not at the newly listed prices on your website... which are right on top of everyone else's.  If those are the new prices, I'll just take my chances on dealer sales after delivery.  Even the free shipping doesn't make up for the difference in prices you originally posted vs. Lionel's new MAP's.

Candidly speaking, Lionel lost the right to be issuing MAP guidelines across the board to its dealers, after they offloaded the risk of holding BTO inventory to their dealer/distributor network.  And if I were a dealer, I'd tell the suits at Lionel what they can do with their MAP prices.

David

jojofry posted:

What does map stand for ? Manufacture adjusted pricing?

Minimum Advertised Pricing.

See my post above as to what I think about Lionel and MAP pricing.  Technically, it doesn't mean a dealer MUST sell at that price.  (The actual sale-price is strictly between the dealer and the client.)  But MAP typically means the dealer can't advertise or post web-site prices less than MAP.

David

jojofry posted:

Wow you serious there gonna dictate everything.  ...

I've noticed a couple of dealers now posting here to "call the store" for the best pre-order prices.  So you can read into that what you will.  

However, where it reeks the most havoc is with direct online ordering.  Not all websites are equipped to handle the typical work-arounds to sell at less-than-MAP prices.  The two I'm most familiar with are:

• Items are listed at MAP, but buyers can click an "add to cart" button... after which they can view the cart to see the real sales price.
• Buyers can enter a special coupon code -- usually sent to them in an email, that then "reveals" the actual sales price when viewing the cart or upon checking out.

Failing those two routes, there's always the old-fashioned, tried-and-true method of CALLING with the telephone! 

Again, the whole idea with MAP is no given dealer gets to blatantly advertise below MAP.  But there are definitely ways a dealer can SELL products below MAP.  After all, it's THEIR business to run however they want -- not the manufacturer's or importer's.

David

Our Lionel 2017 orders are due 2-27-2017 and remember to call for the Special Pricing.

Thanks

Pat

WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM

E-MAIL PATSTRAINS@AOL.COM

PATRICK'S TRAINS

142 29TH STREET

WHEELING WV 26003

304-232-0714