Bring Them B-A-C-K! : Golden Gate Depot Heavyweight Passenger Cars

I'd take a Southern shadow line car.

Seaboard also had some shadowline Pullmans, plus an observation car in this scheme.

This goes way back, but I did some artwork for Scott doing shadow line painting for some other projects.  Might be worth resurrecting.  No pun intended on this holy day for many.

Just a few suggestions:

@Purplepapa posted:

Just a few suggestions:

Beautiful! Would you email these to Scott Mann?

I am probably going to order the Baltimore and Ohio sleepers and coaches. Does anyone have information on how close these are to the real B&O cars? Also, are the modernized coaches close to anything the B and O had?

@GG1 4877 posted:

This goes way back, but I did some artwork for Scott doing shadow line painting for some other projects.  Might be worth resurrecting.  No pun intended on this holy day for many.

Let me know how many orders you need to make this reservation a go and I’ll talk to my O Scale friends not here on the forum.

@sdmann posted:

Hi Folks,

Diners, Head End (Baggage / RPO / Combine), Observation Cars were made in 2019 and the tooling exists, and can all be made in a subsequent run after these. That way we can announce all the successful roads of this run in future runs. All our tooling is moving into our current car manufacturer.

In the previous run of 2019, we improved our 3R coupler assembly, and these cars will enjoy that upgrade as well. I am thinking to supply the Kadee mounts and screws in each 3R box as well.

Clerestory and Arched Roofs: These car bodies are assembled, not a one piece plastic part, the roofs are screwed on to the car from below, so I could make extras and customers could buy roofs separately and change out their Clerestory for Arched and visa versa at will.

These cars are all based on accurate PRR cars, then we offer them in a generic form for all other roads. Sometimes we will be close, sometimes not, it all depends on what you want for your layout or collection.  I think it's going to be a fun project for us and our customers.

Cheers,

Scott Mann

I’ll take 5 arched roofs, Scott. Would you be offering floors and trucks as well?

@BlueFeather posted:

Besides PRR, what other roads had arch roof heavyweight coaches with picture windows?  I can find prototype images of arch roof heavyweights but not a lot of cars with both an arch roof *and* picture windows.

For certain:  Frisco, Union Pacific

I think . . . :  Erie, Southern, NC&StL/L&N

One more Pullman paint scheme suggestion.

@Purplepapa posted:

Just a few suggestions:

I would absolutely buy this one in an undecorated Pullman version.

I think the Cuyahoga Valley Line ran one of these (along with a couple of 12-1 Heavyweights) when they were running 4070 and the ex-Pennsylvania P70's.

Can anyone verify? I'd drop some photographs to illustrate what I'm after, but it's against forum rules and regulations.

Just gonna throw this out there, anybody want a more luxurious heavyweight sleeper? I’m thinking the 6-3 (6 compartments 3 drawing rooms) or the 7 drawing room sleepers found only on a few of the most luxurious passenger trains.

12-1’s were a sectional sleeper & 8-1-2’s were a sectional/ bedroom car. Thinking an all bedroom car would be a sweet addition to the fleet.

see them here http://www.northeast.railfan.n...lassic/CARdwgs4.html

That Rebuilt 6-6 type in Pullman green is the one I'm after! Thanks DJ.

If observation cars are ever offered, would love to see one in this scheme (my picture).

www.youtube.com/trainbros89

@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

Just gonna throw this out there, anybody want a more luxurious heavyweight sleeper? I’m thinking the 6-3 (6 compartments 3 drawing rooms) or the 7 drawing room sleepers found only on a few of the most luxurious passenger trains.

12-1’s were a sectional sleeper & 8-1-2’s were a sectional/ bedroom car. Thinking an all bedroom car would be a sweet addition to the fleet.

see them here http://www.northeast.railfan.n...lassic/CARdwgs4.html

I hope everyone gets what they want.  What I want to see though are the basic cars that you would see on workaday trains rather than the top of the line equipment that tended to be reserved for the flagship trains.

Can someone please tell me more about the “Postwar” Heavyweight Passenger cars?

Kyle - A Fellow “Rail-Nerd”

@Kyle Pax Express posted:

Can someone please tell me more about the “Postwar” Heavyweight Passenger cars?

Kyle - A Fellow “Rail-Nerd”

This thread discussion is all about Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot SCALE heavyweight passenger equipment, i.e. generally 21" long cars. The "postwar" cars you are asking about would all be Lionel non-scale pieces, generally referred to as "Madison Cars".

@Hot Water posted:

This thread discussion is all about Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot SCALE heavyweight passenger equipment, i.e. generally 21" long cars. The "postwar" cars you are asking about would all be Lionel non-scale pieces, generally referred to as "Madison Cars".

Did you look at the golden gate websight? There is a “postwar” coach offering in many road names.

@Kyle Pax Express posted:

Can someone please tell me more about the “Postwar” Heavyweight Passenger cars?

Kyle - A Fellow “Rail-Nerd”

They are modernized heavyweight cars. Round roof & modified windows. I believe they will have 4 wheel or 6 wheel trucks per the prototype

@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

Did you look at the golden gate websight? There is a “postwar” coach offering in many road names.

Sorry but, there is NOTHING "postwar" about Golden Gate Depot SCALE heavyweight passenger cars! I must have had a dozen or more of their SCALE passenger cars, over the years.

@Hot Water posted:

Sorry but, there is NOTHING "postwar" about Golden Gate Depot SCALE heavyweight passenger cars! I must have had a dozen or more of their SCALE passenger cars, over the years.

I have a lot of their scale plastic & aluminum cars too and this is not the first time Golden gate depot has used the term postwar. Meaning a scale replica of a train car made or modernized post WWII. You remember the pre and postwar Broadway limited offering?

If you’re referring to Lionel’s postwar products, yes it’s a completely different product. And I’m only referring to what’s on the golden gate depot websight so maybe relax & enjoy the thread…..

@Hot Water posted:

Sorry but, there is NOTHING "postwar" about Golden Gate Depot SCALE heavyweight passenger cars! I must have had a dozen or more of their SCALE passenger cars, over the years.

Yes postwar is referring to a scale model of Pullman built heavyweight cars as they appeared in the postwar years after they had been converted to sealed windows with air conditioning.

The top car is what GGD is referring to as a prewar car with the clerestory roof and small windows, while the car on bottom is a modernized "postwar" car with the rounded roof to accommodate air conditioning ducts and to better match streamlined equipment as well as large picture windows. Both cars were built in the 19teens but the green car would've been modernized in the 30s or 40s.

NOTE:  pictures removed due to possible copyright infringement per the OGR TOS.