2019 Flyer (Lionel) Catalog On Line

I gave everything a look.  I will probably order the new tooled items of a kitchen car and a bunk car.  I have a lot of Union Pacific stuff, but those light green cars are not very attractive.

Notice the U33's say "Build to Order."  I have 2 of the older ones so these are not on my purchase list.

The custom car page is a good idea, but no prices are listed.  Good for Clubs that want custom cars.  Our club used American Models for ours a few years ago.

I am just glad Lionel is issuing more Flyer and new tooled items.  If you look at the O Gauge stuff in the front of the catalog it would be great if the made that stuff is S also.

Lucky for my wallet that there are no MKT items offered that I could see in either S or O scale. I spent  some $$ on a variety of 2018 volume 1 offerings so I need to let the melted CC firm up again.

I liked the addition of videos in the catalog (ex.==Pg 4 top right) maybe they have offered that in prior catalogs but I don't remember it. It's helpful to learn more about the products being offered. Well done Lionel.

I was amused by the inclusion of the Auto carriers in both S and O scale. Lionel mentions that if you want to add different car #'s to your fleet you can buy the O gauge cars and add S gauge trucks (available from customer service). I like the fact that they now offer the trucks for separate sale. For the "not too particular" group (like me) I wonder if the modified "S" trucks would fit the Lionel Maxi-stack cars and allow the coupler to clear the end sill of the car? By the way the auto carrier price jumped $5.00/car.

The red ATSF coil car with covers is a beauty. I'll have to put that one on the back burner.

I did like mention of club car availability but the "Minimum 100 quantity..." seemed like it was only for Lionscale and "Made in USA" O gauge cars.

The new graphics on the tank cars look good. The kitchen/bunk car thing is a welcome addition to the line-up of Flyer offerings but ...not today.

The varied road name offerings on the U33C will generate a wider group of buyers.

All in all the offerings show Lionel is continuing their interest in our scale.

Mark

Another thing to take note of. It seems that the # system is changing for some items in both O and S scale.

The 6-4XXX used for Flyer items may become a thing of the past:

However the new bunk/kitchen cars retain the old system:

OH BOY! That's gonna throw skimming vendor ads for the 6-4XXXX numbers out the window.

Mark

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Overall, the Flyer offerings in this round are pretty nice. Good stuff for the Flyer Folks.

The Gibson Wine tank car kinda had me wondering, but lo and behold:

Tank Car Gibson Wine 66719

I was thinking about getting the Santa Fe U33C's, but at 600 bucks a pop (I know, Ro and the others will have it for less...) the cost is more than the Flyer Legacy Berk, more than their O Gauge counterparts, plus whatever the added cost of scale wheels are nowadays, so I'll have to pass on them.

Rusty

 

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Like the Legacy Berkshires last year, the release of these U33c's keeps hope alive for continued Legacy offerings in S.  

I am very happy to see that these are now DCC unlike previous releases and that scale wheels are again available. Those two aspects open the door to a few more buyers, but in a niche scale like this we need all the buyers we can get in order to keep new products coming.   

I looked at the new catalog again.  The O gauge bunk and kitchen cars have lights and a chimney.  The kitchen car has sounds too.  I wish the the S Gauge cars had the same features.  Yes, the O gauge cars are more expensive, but the added features would make them a real addition to layout operation.  

Roundhouse Bill posted:

I looked at the new catalog again.  The O gauge bunk and kitchen cars have lights and a chimney.  The kitchen car has sounds too.  I wish the the S Gauge cars had the same features.  Yes, the O gauge cars are more expensive, but the added features would make them a real addition to layout operation.  

I know that I swore NOT to buy any more Lionel Flyer, but those bunk cars and kitchen cars are tempting!  If I get them, they're NOT to be left "stock",  I'll illuminate both of them and they'll make a good companions to the tool car I ginned up since I didn't get one when they were available back in the day.  And adding a chimney is easy.  Making it smoke might not be, but it's not all THAT hard.

 

 

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traindavid posted:

I didn't see ANY track supplies in the catalog, nor any PE sets??

There's no track or PE sets on the O Gauge side of the catalog either. 

Lionel appears to be using Volume 2 primarily as a supplement and not regurgitate what's in "The Big Book" Volume 1.  I expect track and such will show up again in 2019 Volume 1.

Rusty

Quick Casey posted:

In an earlier offering, Lionel offered the U33s with two different numbers. One was hi-Rail, the other had scale wheels.

These look like two different cab numbers, all Hi-Rail.

The catalog mentions scale wheels are available now for the U33C's (probably until existing stock from the last production runs out.)

Rusty

traindavid posted:

I didn't see ANY track supplies in the catalog, nor any PE sets??

David:  track is found only in the "Track & Power" catalog Lionel now prints only every other year.  You can find it under "catalogs" on www.lionel.com.  I think the Polar Express S set was in the 2018 Vol. I Catalog, with other Christmas items.  You can also find it under "catalogs" on www.lionel.com.   

RadioRon posted:
traindavid posted:

I didn't see ANY track supplies in the catalog, nor any PE sets??

David:  track is found only in the "Track & Power" catalog Lionel now prints only every other year.  You can find it under "catalogs" on www.lionel.com.  I think the Polar Express S set was in the 2018 Vol. I Catalog, with other Christmas items.  You can also find it under "catalogs" on www.lionel.com.   

Ron, there is AF track shown in the 2018 Big Book catalog. See the shortcut here. You can also look it up in the 2018 Big Book.

Mark

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