The countdown has ended 1 day till York week. I am on my way Sunday.
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I might try to attend this Spring. I'm sure you all needed to know that.....LOL
Hope you're able to make the April meet.
Is this the York show where for the first time ever either Lionel or MTH won't have their semi-annual Orange Hall display booths set up???
I'm almost sure MTH will be there. I don't know about Lionel.
Thank you Eddie!! I was starting to get those after Christmas doldrums. You picked me up!! I hope to see you there!
Sorry you didn't get to the Fall Meet. It was nice seeing the folks that did. Still up in the air whether we will make it to Spring Meet.
eddie g posted:I'm almost sure MTH will be there. I don't know about Lionel.
Last I heard, Lionel will not.
Thanks for posting this Ed. I nust confirmed my hotel reservation and I'll be there. Looking forward to it.
John
Eddie,
Thanks for the countdown update. I missed this past October one, first one in 26 years of attending but I was so sick, there was no way I could even walk those halls. I ended up saving money for April and hopefully 2019 will be a much better year for my health than 2018 was. I received the good news from the neuro-radiologist that there was no aneurysm in my head so I am all clear for April 2019.
I'll be there Thursday and Friday.
BTW EDDIE what is the weather for the week?
I'll let you know what the weather will be when I get there.
Ted Bertiger posted:Eddie,
Thanks for the countdown update. I missed this past October one, first one in 26 years of attending but I was so sick, there was no way I could even walk those halls. I ended up saving money for April and hopefully 2019 will be a much better year for my health than 2018 was. I received the good news from the neuro-radiologist that there was no aneurysm in my head so I am all clear for April 2019.
Ted
Best wishes for a Happy new year and good health !!!!
Just starting to make travel plans for 2019, Not sure about the spring meet
Got my badge 4 days after I ordered it online.
I have never attended the York show but may try to get there for this one.
I was hoping to meet Eddie G. at the Big-E show in West Springfield, Massachusetts this past weekend but I believe that he left before the OGR Forum group photo op on Saturday at 2 PM.
MELGAR
MELGAR posted:I have never attended the York show but may try to get there for this one.
Be careful, it can be habit forming.
Eddie....the weather report notwithstanding....how many pizzas is that if one consumes 3 a week? Hold the peckeroni....lol
That's 27 Pizzas.
Dan Padova posted:I might try to attend this Spring. I'm sure you all needed to know that.....LOL
You live close enough! You should definitely go - there's nothing like it!
-Greg
laz1957 posted:I'll be there Thursday and Friday.
BTW EDDIE what is the weather for the week?
The weather at York is now always just fine, thank you. Once upon a time in a long ago world where the dinosaurs roamed, there were things called bandit meets which required a lack of rain for the vendors to come out of their caves. In our modern world, these bandit meets have largely disappeared and the vendors at the York show are indoors. So the WORST that happens is taht itmay be cold, you may see a snowflake or two (VERY rare) or you may get a little wet. IMO, a small price to pay for the joys of York. So Eddie, just tell tell them its always sunny in Pennsylvania.
Gerry
gmorlitz posted:laz1957 posted:I'll be there Thursday and Friday.
BTW EDDIE what is the weather for the week?
The weather at York is now always just fine, thank you. Once upon a time in a long ago world where the dinosaurs roamed, there were things called bandit meets which required a lack of rain for the vendors to come out of their caves. In our modern world, these bandit meets have largely disappeared and the vendors at the York show are indoors. So the WORST that happens is taht itmay be cold, you may see a snowflake or two (VERY rare) or you may get a little wet. IMO, a small price to pay for the joys of York. So Eddie, just tell tell them its always sunny in Pennsylvania.
Gerry
Hey GERRY, tell me that tomorrow January 31,2019, when the mercury hits 0 or below.
got my badge yesterday,its in the car !
When is York week?
So like 66 days away
laz1957 posted:gmorlitz posted:laz1957 posted:I'll be there Thursday and Friday.
BTW EDDIE what is the weather for the week?
The weather at York is now always just fine, thank you. Once upon a time in a long ago world where the dinosaurs roamed, there were things called bandit meets which required a lack of rain for the vendors to come out of their caves. In our modern world, these bandit meets have largely disappeared and the vendors at the York show are indoors. So the WORST that happens is taht itmay be cold, you may see a snowflake or two (VERY rare) or you may get a little wet. IMO, a small price to pay for the joys of York. So Eddie, just tell tell them its always sunny in Pennsylvania.
Gerry
Hey GERRY, tell me that tomorrow January 31,2019, when the mercury hits 0 or below.
I am now a snowbird, and it will be about 70 here today. I feel for you guys, and have been through that.
Gerry
It doesn't matter what the outside temperature is. It's always 68 and sunny in my train room!!
John
Received my badge yesterday. If I make it, it will be number 17 for me; all in April by the way. October is reserved for hiking and hunting in the mountains of West, BY GOD, Virginia.
Greg Houser posted:Dan Padova posted:I might try to attend this Spring. I'm sure you all needed to know that.....LOL
You live close enough! You should definitely go - there's nothing like it!
-Greg
Greg, you're right. We have been gifted a B&B not too far from York. We have yet to book the dates. SWMBO will work on that. Friday would be the day we would attend. I've only been to the York meet twice, I believe. It is a sight to see !
My wife and I have already preregistered. This will be 14 straight. We love it. For years we wanted to go but me being a farmer would not allow because of harvest and planting always conflicting with the York dates. We have made many friends there and several have made the trip to Western Ky to visit my layout. The different manufacturers of things like turntables and bridges and buildings is where it is at for us. How to do scenery and make it realistic is where its at for me. If Lionel is not there is not a big deal. There is so much more to see and do .It's a 2 day drive for us to get to York but it's a lot of fun for us.
Wow 58 days. I cannot wait. I already have a bag packed. Badge holder, toiletries and a tool kit.
Like Ted, I've had a rough year. It's tough for us young guys to keep up with Eddie G!
No rush. On Feb. 23 I'm going to the Allentown train show. In March we are taking the Silver Meteor to Florida for 3 weeks. THEN I go to York. In May, the Cresent to New Orleans for 2 nights, then the Sunset Limited to Arizona for a visit with my daughter's family.
Ah, retirement.
Joe Hohmann posted:No rush. On Feb. 23 I'm going to the Allentown train show. In March we are taking the Silver Meteor to Florida for 3 weeks. THEN I go to York. In May, the Cresent to New Orleans for 2 nights, then the Sunset Limited to Arizona for a visit with my daughter's family.
Ah, retirement.
Sounds like you're living the rail-fan's dream, Joe.
Going on a motorcar ride on the loops in Tenn. April 7, TVRR museum April 8 & 9. Then York April 11 - 13. Practicing for my retirement May 3, 2019! WooHooo!
Ordered my badge tonight. Next is the flight, hotel and rental car. Then off to our cruise to the Bahamas the end of this month.
This may be a low purchase trip. Most future funds will be going towards the new Train Palace and Mianne bench work. Well, almost most of the funds. Trains always find me at York!
Hey Eddie G!!!!!!!!!! At 52 days to wait..........enough about how many Pizzas is that; instead, how many Hot Pockets rolls is that? With Peckerroni or without....your choice (lol)
Traindiesel posted:...This may be a low purchase trip...
I wish I had a bunch of trains for every time I've said that about going to York. Oh wait, I do...
49 days till York? If my my math is correct, my scrapple supply may last until then. Whew !🙄
Joe Hohmann posted:No rush. On Feb. 23 I'm going to the Allentown train show. In March we are taking the Silver Meteor to Florida for 3 weeks. THEN I go to York. In May, the Cresent to New Orleans for 2 nights, then the Sunset Limited to Arizona for a visit with my daughter's family.
Ah, retirement.
Awesome Joe! Hope you you and your wife have a blast.
Pat
This is the meet new and different manufacturers will be set up with new and different prototypes, right?
colorado hirailer posted:This is the meet new and different manufacturers will be set up with new and different prototypes, right?
If you are referring to Allentown, it's the second best train show in the southeast PA area compared to York. I have no idea if the dealers are at York or not (some are), but it's a fun way to spend a cold day in February. Getting together with 15-20 OGR members for breakfast is a fun "plus" (at least we laugh a lot). Since you live 500 miles from Allentown, I wonder why you are asking (no it's not worth the 16 hour round trip drive).
Purchase badge - check!
Book hotel - check!
Make shopping list - check!
Get more maple syrup - check!
Get money to buy everything - hmmmm
If PA is having the kind of winter we are having in Maine, There may still be snow on the ground the week of York.
Well, we have snow right now.
gunrunnerjohn posted:Well, we have snow right now.
Whether it's cold,
or whether it's hot,
we'll always have weather,
whether or not!
Oops! Did my hotel late (signed up yesterday), and needed to go somewhere different this time. Not a huge deal, but I was a bit surprised, as the place I stay up near Harrisburg is normally not as packed as it used to be when York had higher attendance in the past. (It used to be I would see tons of train people there each meet, now it's probably a lot less of the hotel capacity). Maybe we are overlapping with something else this meet? (Carlisle Cars, etc.)
The relative early date this spring may have screwed me up (and I also may have just been sidetracked with other things and forgotten to do it... "What do you mean it's March already? didn't we just finish Christmas?" ).
-Dave
eddie g posted:If PA is having the kind of winter we are having in Maine, There may still be snow on the ground the week of York.
Say it ain't so .....
eddie g posted:If PA is having the kind of winter we are having in Maine, There may still be snow on the ground the week of York.
I thought you were in Key West.
Dave45681 posted:Oops! Did my hotel late (signed up yesterday), and needed to go somewhere different this time. Not a huge deal, but I was a bit surprised, as the place I stay up near Harrisburg is normally not as packed as it used to be when York had higher attendance in the past. (It used to be I would see tons of train people there each meet, now it's probably a lot less of the hotel capacity). Maybe we are overlapping with something else this meet? (Carlisle Cars, etc.)
The relative early date this spring may have screwed me up (and I also may have just been sidetracked with other things and forgotten to do it... "What do you mean it's March already? didn't we just finish Christmas?" ).
-Dave
I just did some research. Carlisle Car show is April 24th. Here are some Harrisburg events:
APR 11 2019
Demo Event 2
Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex & Expo Center , 2300 North Cameron Street, Harrisburg, United States
07:00 pm to 10:00 pm
APR 12 2019
Beyond Leadership Spring 2019
Dixon University Center , 2986 N. Second Street, Harrisburg, United States
09:00 am to 04:30 pm
The 2019 Artisan Guitar Show - VIP Package
Best Western Premier The Central Hotel & Conference Center , 800 East Park Drive, Harrisburg, United States
Wines Of The World
Hilton Harrisburg Hotel , 1 N 2nd St, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17101, Harrisburg, United States
APR 13 2019
The 2019 Artisan Guitar Show - General Admission – Weekend Pass – Advance Price
Best Western Premier The Central Hotel & Conference Center , 800 East Park Drive, Harrisburg, United States
717 Armory 2nd Annual Spring Fling Charity Ride
717 Armory , 7500 Derry Street, Harrisburg, United States
10:00 am to 04:00 pm
Mike McCutcheon posted:Dave45681 posted:Oops! Did my hotel late (signed up yesterday), and needed to go somewhere different this time. Not a huge deal, but I was a bit surprised, as the place I stay up near Harrisburg is normally not as packed as it used to be when York had higher attendance in the past. (It used to be I would see tons of train people there each meet, now it's probably a lot less of the hotel capacity). Maybe we are overlapping with something else this meet? (Carlisle Cars, etc.)
The relative early date this spring may have screwed me up (and I also may have just been sidetracked with other things and forgotten to do it... "What do you mean it's March already? didn't we just finish Christmas?" ).
-Dave
I just did some research. Carlisle Car show is April 24th. Here are some Harrisburg events:
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Wow! Thanks, but I hope you didn't go to too much trouble to make that list on my account.
That list certainly could explain it, I guess. Lots of things over the three days I wanted (Wed to Fri night, of course).
I'll survive . The motel I ended up in will be under the same rewards club as my normal motel by the time York happens, so it's all good. I sometimes use points to bring down the rate for York a little, but these trips are not so high in cost per night that it stresses me that I couldn't do that this time (I think with taxes, I'm still roughly around $250 total for the 3 nights at the new place). I'm OK with saving my points to use where it can mean more $$ off of a higher rate when I go somewhere else (or just a lot more York trips! ).
So my procrastination maybe cost me $70-$80 (and the motel is probably a bit nicer nicer than my go-to as well, since it's supposedly a recently built facility). Oh well. It's still York week and better than a good day at work!
-Dave
Dave,
No trouble at all. Took less than 3 minutes. Just a quick Google search, then a copy and paste.
Joe, I got back Sunday.
How was the lobster?
Florida lobster is horrible. It can't come close to Maine lobster. It's a waste of money.
Next time Eddie, save your money for York..........if not trains, then perhaps a funnel cake, if not a funnel cake..........then Quaker Steak and Lube food!
See ya around April York!
eddie g posted:Joe, I got back Sunday.
How was the train ride? I leave on the Silver Meteor tomorrow.
The train ride was fine. We had 2 roomettes across from each other. 3&4 going & 1&2 coming back. I made the res last July. Nothing unusual happened. We were 1 hour late getting in to Ft. Lauderdale, & 1 1/2 hours late into NY. That was fine because we had a 1/2 hour to spare to catch the northeast regional to Boston. It was sunny & 84 deg everyday in key West. The last day there I came down with a sore throat which is now a bad cold. My daughter got the cold 2 days later. Have a great trip. Ed
eddie g posted:We had 2 roomettes 3&4
Funny, ours are 5&6. Glad to hear it went well.
Well, I'll be missing April yet again. Got to get surgery done on my hernia in late March and won't be train capable for a while. No lifting, golfing(I don't play), or any such stuff.
I'm not sure about the fall yet, but that might be possible/not possible due to time off. I'll have to wait and see. Hopefully next Spring I'll get out there.
You live in NJ and can't get to York? I don't think you are trying hard enough.
eddie g posted:You live in NJ and get get to York? I don't think you are trying hard enough.
All about timing Eddie. I won't be ready for long travel next month as I wouldn't want to have an issue after surgery. Surgeon said a month and a half of light duty, nothing over 20.lbs. Fall is uncertain because of work schedule. There is a period in October where no vacations are allowed. I've been lucky the past two October's.
Dave, Take it real easy after your surgery. I had a double hernia surgery done December 19th and I'm still dealing with some issues. I was told to absolutely lift no more than 10 pounds for a month. I told the doctor to extend it to six weeks and I am still recovering slowly. I didn't feel like going anywhere for a couple weeks, and was not allowed to drive for a month. Good luck and your mileage may vary! Doug
Thanks Doug. I worked with a guy that had a double, he was back to work the next day. No one knows how the heck he did it because his job was awkward lifting from start to finish. I plan on taking it as easy as I can. Work is fortunate because I can delegate stuff I can't do or won't be able to do to someone else. Hopefully I heal up good and be back to okay shape in no time with no reoccurrence. I'll have to play everything by ear, so no Hulking out as it were.
Dave, I didn't mean to be mean, sorry.
I didn't take it that way Eddie. Sad truth about my hernia, my GP had told me when I got it that I didn't need surgery, just keep an eye on it. Well, I did and told him a bit later to suggest a surgeon. I sort of got a little busy(York first time) and thought I might not need to get surgery. Most days I felt great. Its only been recently that my body started saying enough of this, so I had to act. I think now that I should have pursued it much better from the get go. I still would have made York back then, just foolish I suppose. You know we all have that time when we think we're indestructible. I still think I am, to a degree, but will be more careful. See what comes, that's for sure.
eddie g posted:The train ride was fine. We had 2 roomettes. Nothing unusual happened. We were 1 hour late getting in to Ft. Lauderdale, Have a great trip. Ed
We were lucky with our train. It ran "on-time" all the way, until Sebring, Fl, when someone had a medical problem. A ambulance was called, and the person was taken away. The 30 minute delay was negated by W Palm Beach, and we arrived in Ft. Lauderdale 4 minutes early.
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Well, I'll be missing April yet again. Got to get surgery done on my hernia in late March and won't be train capable for a while. No lifting, golfing(I don't play), or any such stuff.
I'm not sure about the fall yet, but that might be possible/not possible due to time off. I'll have to wait and see. Hopefully next Spring I'll get out there.
Best of luck with your surgery.
Peter
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I didn't take it that way Eddie. Sad truth about my hernia, my GP had told me when I got it that I didn't need surgery, just keep an eye on it. Well, I did and told him a bit later to suggest a surgeon. I sort of got a little busy(York first time) and thought I might not need to get surgery. Most days I felt great. Its only been recently that my body started saying enough of this, so I had to act. I think now that I should have pursued it much better from the get go. I still would have made York back then, just foolish I suppose. You know we all have that time when we think we're indestructible. I still think I am, to a degree, but will be more careful. See what comes, that's for sure.
Good luck, and sorry about the timing.
Depending on how soon your surgery is, and of course everybody is different, but maybe you can leave your options open for York. I had the 3-hole punch with mesh done on a Friday, was back at my desk on Monday (moving slowly), and was pretty much unrestricted a week later. I couldn't carry a Blue Comet for about a week, but if you buy one I'm sure that the seller will help get it to your car.
YMMV of course.
But don't overdo it!
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Well, I'll be missing April yet again. Got to get surgery done on my hernia in late March and won't be train capable for a while. No lifting, golfing(I don't play), or any such stuff.
I'm not sure about the fall yet, but that might be possible/not possible due to time off. I'll have to wait and see. Hopefully next Spring I'll get out there.
Good luck with your surgery Dave. I had an umbilical hernia repaired and after a month I was 100% good to go. I actually enjoyed the down time - no "HONEY DO" list to worry about.
Getting psyched!
Peter
Getting closer. Got a feeling it is going to be a cold week. We could even get snow. The meet is the earlier than usual.
Hotel rooms still available (link)
Thanks Wild Mary(behind on my notifications again). Make sure you all get great deals, take great pictures, have a great time, and most of all, party with one another. I always enjoyed Peter's breakfast hosting at Round the Clock(twice my pleasure so far) and last year my first time at Quaker Steak. Definitely when I get back to me after this surgery, going to be some good old partying at York.
eddie g posted:Getting closer. Got a feeling it is going to be a cold week. We could even get snow. The meet is the earlier than usual.
As of today, they are calling for close to the 64 degree normal high.
Farmer_Bill posted:Hotel rooms still available (link)
Seems like rooms are noticeably more expensive than they were in October, which strikes me as odd.
My hotel the Wyndham has been the same April & October for several years now. i believe that the earlier you make your reservations the lower it would be.
eddie g posted:Getting closer. Got a feeling it is going to be a cold week. We could even get snow. The meet is the earlier than usual.
Eddie:
Long range forecast on AccuWeather is actually excellent. Would not take it to the bank though. Don't trust long range forecasts.
}irish rifle posted:eddie g posted:Getting closer. Got a feeling it is going to be a cold week. We could even get snow. The meet is the earlier than usual.
Eddie:
Long range forecast on AccuWeather is actually excellent. Would not take it to the bank though. Don't trust long range forecasts.
Being that it is Pennsylvania, always remember...
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Looking forward to York. My wife and I love the show. Even if Lionel and Atlas are not there its there loss. There is so much more to see . All the dealers and builders of net items make the show for me.
irish rifle posted:eddie g posted:Getting closer. Got a feeling it is going to be a cold week. We could even get snow. The meet is the earlier than usual.
Eddie:
Long range forecast on AccuWeather is actually excellent. Would not take it to the bank though. Don't trust long range forecasts.
"Long range" being two days out. Same day, look out of your window.
Just made my first York "Purchase". Bought a new set of tires for the Vette. They'll be installed next week. The old girl could use a nice road trip.
As for weather, I really don't care as long as it doesn't snow.
Sorry, that doesn't count as a York purchase.
farmerjohn posted:Looking forward to York. My wife and I love the show. Even if Lionel and Atlas are not there its there loss. There is so much more to see . All the dealers and builders of net items make the show for me.
I got more out of it last October just talking to our fellow forum members as well as some of the manufacturers. I had really wanted to talk with Dave Olson then, but they had him away doing something else unfortunately. With or without some of the manufacturers, its really all about us folks and our love of trains and train relates items.
Make sure you got extra maple syrup if you are attending the Pre-York breakfast(running joke with Alan Arnold).
I can't wait. Spring is a great time for the meet. No school taxes to pay, income tax came in, and I get to cash in all my quarters in my caboose piggy bank I saved over the winter. The early meet was perfect timing for me since I will be able to go to NYC and pick up my daughter to bring her home for Easter. Can't wait for OGR forum dinner since I wasn't able to go to the fall meet. Great group of guys on the forum. I desperately need a break from work. 2yrs and 10 months to retirement, but who's counting. I will not miss Lionel or Atlas since they don't sell anything at the meet. I go to buy things, good conversation, and see what's new.
eddie g posted:Sorry, that doesn't count as a York purchase.
When you're not using run-flat tires on a C5 Corvette, it counts. It's a long walk from York Pa to Midlothian, Va. If you're not there, you've missed York. Yes, I could find something else to drive, but why not arrive in style?
Hey Gilly....you could take Eddie for a quick spin in the 'vette a la the movie "used cars" with Kurt Russell🤔
I had a C7. I never took it to York because (1) the tires are as Gilly says, but more important, (2) the trunk is way too small. I mean, if you TRUST Peter to really take stuff home for you, then MAYBE its OK, but otherwise the Vette acts as a severe restriction on purchases. That might be a good thing.
There always seems to be one type of car show or another in that general area. Of course, Corvettes at Carlisle is the big one, but that isn't until August.
Gerry
We should be hearing from Peter any day now.
eddie g posted:We should be hearing from Peter any day now.
He left for York already.
gmorlitz posted:... the trunk is way too small. I mean, if you TRUST Peter to really take stuff home for you, then MAYBE its OK, but otherwise the Vette acts as a severe restriction on purchases. That might be a good thing.
Gerry
I have a coupe. My wife and I routinely take trips with 2 golf bags and 2 small suitcases. Volumetrically, it does limit your purchases. Since I'm down to random car or small accessory purchases, the truck can stay at the house.
As for Peter, I trust him implicitly. His integrity is beyond reproach. If Eddie wants to take a ride with me in the Vette, he's more than welcome. My days of "driving while stupid" have long since past.
eddie g posted:We should be hearing from Peter any day now.
I’m here.......the breakfast announcement will go up this weekend......
Peter
Dear Eddie G and Forum members,
I am celebrating 50 years going to York. I was 13 years old - Earl Zimmerman brought me from the Philly bunch- and the York meet consisted of one hall-the Blue Hall.
I clearly remember a guy having a whole table piled high with boxed 773 hudson's for sale at $75.00. each and had a tough time selling them.
Standard gauge was King. Ward Kimble was holding court at his table in the middle of the hall.
There was talk of some cereal company buying Lionel !!!
Go figure 50 years forward !!!
John P.Dunn Sr. Scale2Rail Promotions. 71-3781
Great story Mr. Dunn. I only have 2 years of York under my belt, and only October York at that. I myself am hoping that I'll be able to make this coming October's York, see how life is treating me and if I can get off of work then.
Putnam Division posted:eddie g posted:We should be hearing from Peter any day now.
I’m here.......the breakfast announcement will go up this weekend......
Peter
Great news, Pete!
Your breakfast is the perfect start to the Meet.
I will have my golf bag in the trunk of my car if there are any men who would enjoy a round.
HCSader73 posted:Putnam Division posted:eddie g posted:We should be hearing from Peter any day now.
I’m here.......the breakfast announcement will go up this weekend......
Peter
Great news, Pete!
Your breakfast is the perfect start to the Meet.
The York Meet is no more. It's now a Show. But whatever it's called, Peter's breakfast is the perfect way to begin the festivities!
-Greg
WRONG, it is still a MEET. You have to pay dues to join.
eddie g posted:WRONG, it is still a MEET. You have to pay dues to join.
Eddie is correct; it is a train MEET. One visit, and assuming you get around to other train events around the country such as WGH, Trainfest in Milwaukee, etc., you'll rather quickly see the difference.
Allan Miller posted:eddie g posted:WRONG, it is still a MEET. You have to pay dues to join.
Eddie is correct; it is a train MEET. One visit, and assuming you get around to other train events around the country such as WGH, Trainfest in Milwaukee, etc., you'll rather quickly see the difference.
Meet, Meet, Meet, York is a Meet. I've only been twice, and I have been to several "shows", there is a big difference(by shows I mean Greenberg's & World's Greatest Hobby here in NJ) and there is a huge difference. While going to shows you may know a few people here and there, and engage in conversation with those you know. York is by far a whole different experience in every way shape and form.
While my time spent going to shows, I probably only know 3 of the dealers(people) there and can talk to them like one normally would. At York it is far different as you seem to be able to talk to everyone regardless if you are buying or just chilling, and that doesn't even include breakfast, lunch or dinner(as they may be off site).
I always have a blast chatting it up with people at every booth(especially the OGR booth). I got great pictures my first show the crew and our favorite retired Rich Melvin giving me the evil eye as I said autostoker(you had to be there).
Anyway, it is like the difference between chicken and steak(whichever you prefer).